I have to admit, they have a point if there are issues w/ the iPad related to too little memory.
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I have to admit, they have a point if there are issues w/ the iPad related to too little memory.
They would have a point if there were any such issues. The only thing I've heard are error messages that are application-specific.
I think it should be called the iPhone Pro
Not because of the PRO seen in one of the chips inside (which may well mean prototype) but to be aligned with the notebook series and live in parallel with the previous generation of iPhones (3G,3GS, etc) just higher spec (better graphics, faster, more memory-maybe- etc.) as the Pro of the Macs are.
Not because of the PRO seen in one of the chips inside (which may well mean prototype) but to be aligned with the notebook series and live in parallel with the previous generation of iPhones (3G,3GS, etc) just higher spec (better graphics, faster, more memory-maybe- etc.) as the Pro of the Macs are.
The iPhone 3G was functional and responsive, so why did Apple double the RAM for the 3GS?
Again, was there some overwhelming evidence that said 128MB was constrained? I think Apple acknowledged that with the 3GS the same way manufacturers like HTC and Palm are doing this year. And interesting that you tout "current" smartphone platform as though these devices are being designed to use immediately and only immediately. Rather, these devices will be used for 1-2 years for the majority of the people that buy them. So while 256MB (or 640K) ought to be enough for anybody right now, it really limits the type of apps, or the quality of apps, that could come out later this year or in 2011. 512MB of RAM opens up more development opportunities that could potentially make iPhone a more robust platform. And it can be done THIS year, and it should be done THIS year.
Why are we the clueless ones? You think a team of engineers thought, "Hey, this device will run best with only 256MB of RAM. That'll be enough for awhile." It wasn't the engineers that made this decision, it was the accountants. The engineers merely accommodated that decision as best as they could. If they can save $4 per iPhone, and then sell 15 million of them, that is an extra $60 million in their pockets. And I understand that decision, I just don't like it.
I think this decision is completely terrible and limits the potential of the iPhone and multitasking. You can hide behind the "Apple does no wrong" mantra all you want, because most of the time it is fair, but this is a time where Apple should have done better but didn't because they can sell the same amount of new iPhones no matter how much RAM is inside.
The more RAM, the better, there's no doubt about that. And being so, all the HTCs have better RAM specs than the iPhone. No doubt about that either.
Guess what, I've used both (256 MB RAM iPhone 3GS and 512 MB RAM Nexus One), and the 3GS runs a LOT better. I really couldn't care less about the specs. What I care, is about how it works. And to be honest, if the iPhone runs better with lower specs, that only makes it an even more incredible product in my eyes.
256 MB RAM have been enough, and honestly, I doubt we'd see some major changes if it was 512 MB.
That is all.
Guess what, I've used both (256 MB RAM iPhone 3GS and 512 MB RAM Nexus One), and the 3GS runs a LOT better. I really couldn't care less about the specs. What I care, is about how it works. And to be honest, if the iPhone runs better with lower specs, that only makes it an even more incredible product in my eyes.
256 MB RAM have been enough, and honestly, I doubt we'd see some major changes if it was 512 MB.
That is all.
And millions of consoles around the world only have 512MB Ram.
You don't need lots of RAM to have decent running system.
But we can assess based on the iPhone OS on the existing devices pretty well.
And there we see that the iPad's increased resolution means bigger textures, UI elements etc etc that need to be held in memory most of the time. And hence there's less memory for doing things like holding webpages, hence the constant reloading, which is a significant pain in the arse.
So if this phone does indeed have a doubled resolution putting it akin to the iPad, then it will suffer the same issues with the same amount of RAM - putting it below the 3GS in many tasks.
Phazer
Yes but a console doesn't need to worry about getting phone calls or text messages and having to browse multiple tabs of the internet while these things are still going on.
Question: Does the 3GS (256MiB) have the same annoying problem as the 3G (128MiB?) when opening more than 2 Safari tabs and going back to one, only to have it reload? It pisses me off that I have 6GB+ of free flash memory, yet they won't just cache it to the flash drive.
So it comes down to whether 256MiB works well on the 3GS that's important - and if it's adequately future proof.
So it comes down to whether 256MiB works well on the 3GS that's important - and if it's adequately future proof.
OLED issues
when I attended GSMA and spoke with many manufacturers , there are still issues with power consumption on OLED screens in particular when your primary background isn't black, which tends to be on many sites like this one.
The OLED technology can draw up to 3 times the power when trying to display a white background for example, I really don't see this becoming mainstream until the power issues are fixed.
And I am still assuming that they haven't been addressed yet.
Any input on this?
when I attended GSMA and spoke with many manufacturers , there are still issues with power consumption on OLED screens in particular when your primary background isn't black, which tends to be on many sites like this one.
The OLED technology can draw up to 3 times the power when trying to display a white background for example, I really don't see this becoming mainstream until the power issues are fixed.
And I am still assuming that they haven't been addressed yet.
Any input on this?
The specs are quite similar. I just wish apple would have made she same case for it.. Just smaller. That would have been perfect.
To comply with new EU regulation... the owner/user must be able to replace the battery himself?Can somebody told me, for what this things are ???...
because not 1 of's products have things like this.
Not Jonathan Ive like...
BTW: I personally couldn't care less about how it looks and what size it is... as long as it works, intended to do what it should do as a phone, because that's what it is in the first place... a phone!
And yes the A4 and 256MB of RAM was to be expected, and by many people. No news here.
p.s. I am told that T-Mobile in The Netherlands will drop* the price of the 16GB 3GS – with a two year i-300 contract – to 19.95 (phone for 26.95) soon, this instead of the current 44.95 (per month). Giving people with little money a chance to get a cheap yesteryears iPhone for a much lower price.
* We received images of the Dutch T-Mobile website – two days ago – with the lower prices, but no changes have been reported for other EU countries.
The 256MB RAM are already kind of a problem on the 3GS. When I have eight tabs open in Safari, it constantly flushes them from memory and I have to reload - it drives me crazy! I know people with iPads who only use iCab or Atomic to browse the web because Safari isn't cutting it. This is a problem, people!
The fact that the upcoming iPhone will use last year's processor technology (Cortex A8) and only 256 MB RAM is really, really disappointing. I've invested too much money in Apps to switch to Android, but I'm really pissed at Apple here. Oh well, still going to upgrade for that sweet new design and the front-facing camera.
The fact that the upcoming iPhone will use last year's processor technology (Cortex A8) and only 256 MB RAM is really, really disappointing. I've invested too much money in Apps to switch to Android, but I'm really pissed at Apple here. Oh well, still going to upgrade for that sweet new design and the front-facing camera.
The performance bottleneck in Android OS is interpreted Java on top of a virtual machine. Android 2.2 promises a Java JIT compiler which really speeds things up but there will always be a performance hit compared to the native code used with iPhone OS.
Apple's A4 adds other performance gains in addition to the newer micro-architecture and faster clock of the cpu. Apple significantly sped up RAM access, reduced latency and increased bandwidth. The GPU also significantly sped up plus access to the faster RAM without being limited to just 16MB. The GPU is now a OpenCL device so adds to the processing power of general computing needs. It appears that OS 4 will better take advantage of this so expect a performance boost from the software upgrade.
Hey guys, I got a question... I have the 3G and I'm itching to get a new phone. Though the Android phones look very tempting (Nexus One and Sprint Evo 4G) I really like the iPhone and the App Store etc... I purposely skipped the 3GS because it wasn't much of an upgrade from my 3G because I was expecting the next iPhone to come with 4G internet. Well, it seems like ATT has not gotten on the ball yet and this phone will not have it. My question is if I upgrade to this phone, I will not be eligible for an upgrade when the next iPhone comes out and by that time it will most likely have 4G internet. Will this iPhone be 4G capable when ATT rolls out 4G internet? Because if not, I might have to wait till next iPhone because if I get this one I won't be eligible for an upgrade when the next one with 4G comes out.
Please no
I am still hoping that this is not the final design of the next iPhone.
To me it looks terrible and is too similar to a whole load of other (old) phone designs. One of the main things I like about my current iPhone is the aesthetic beauty of the device.
This design will really open the door for Apple's competitors.
I still wonder if this is a whole load of careful marketing from Apple, a mix of viral marketing and something to put competitors off the trail of the real final product.
I am still hoping that this is not the final design of the next iPhone.
To me it looks terrible and is too similar to a whole load of other (old) phone designs. One of the main things I like about my current iPhone is the aesthetic beauty of the device.
This design will really open the door for Apple's competitors.
I still wonder if this is a whole load of careful marketing from Apple, a mix of viral marketing and something to put competitors off the trail of the real final product.
Rumors are considered facts now?
Chill out people... wait with the complaining until Steve has officially introduced the model.
Starter perhaps. You have not loaded Windows 7 on a desktop PC with 1GB Ram and opened say firefox and and windows media player and not had it turn into a pig pile of paging suck.
And no reason to use it
Assuming it is true, I am not sure if I am excited for this news or not the same processing power as in iPad, but with 1/3 or 1/4 battery size would mean 1/3 or 1/4 of iPad's battery life. I know this will be unacceptable to Apple and to most users.
After playing with the iPad for so many days, it is still exhilarating to feel how briskly responsive it is. My iPhone 3G is such a dog that I am hoping to retire at the earliest possible opportunity.
After playing with the iPad for so many days, it is still exhilarating to feel how briskly responsive it is. My iPhone 3G is such a dog that I am hoping to retire at the earliest possible opportunity.
Rumors are considered facts now?
Chill out people... wait with the complaining until Steve has officially introduced the model.
The A4 is a Samsung Hummingbird/Cortex A8 clocked at 1Ghz and featuring 256 MB RAM on the same package. Since the chip in this leaked prototype has the exact same markings as the A4 in the iPad, we can safely assume that this is what we're going to get. Apple might downclock it a bit, but I think the 256 MB RAM are pretty much a given at this point.