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How you people claim the title of expert and spout off lies like you "know" this is prototype without confirmation is beyond me.
Yes. In fact there are tons of threads on the very subject.
It's the same OS running nearly identical apps on nearly identical hardware. Where do you get off saying you can't compare them? You sure as hell can.
Personally, I think there being a model with a lower RAM configuration has the benefit of encouraging better programming. Unless there's a real need for a lot of RAM (eg. web browser), a smaller footprint will always be preferred. If we're getting multitasking, this'll be a definite benefit as all the running apps won't have to be dumped from memory.
The low amount of RAM listed does bother me as well, as my iPad was frequently running out of RAM after running Safari with several tabs loaded, then switching out of it quickly to something like Mail. It would frequently force close the Mail app due to this. But, since I've enabled the disk caching that Apple actually has in place on the iPad already (but disabled by default...search for the thread on how to enable it on here), it's since stopped running out of RAM and doesn't have to refresh any of the tabs in Safari, no matter how many I have loaded. Maybe this caching is something they (Apple) are going to enable in OS 4.0, since it's already in 3.2 on the iPad (and 3.1 on the iPhone, for that matter) but disabled. If they enable disk caching, the 256Mb RAM might not be a problem.
At this point, and especially since it's coming from a Taiwanese source, this is most likely coming off the assembly line and not some "lost" prototype.
I can't wait to get this phone. I stuck with my 3G anticipating a much better bump with this year's iPhone than the 3GS. Looks like all my hopes and more are confirmed. This thing is going to scream with an A4 processor, and I actually really like the new look. By all indications this should be a really solid device.
Ahhh, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. As with most Apple products, it will probably look and feel amazing in person. It may have been mentioned, but I think with the new design there may provide some more opportunities for accessories.
The flattened shape may be more beneficial for some unique docks and devices. I like the squareness, less iMac more Titanium Powerbook, I know its moving backwards in that sense but it is product evolution.
It runs the same, actually less powerful apps, than the iPad. Why would they add more RAM to the phone?
Exactly. My iPad has no issues whatsoever with memory. And I have had four pages open on Safari. No sluggishness.
One thing to remember- that Droid that everyone loves and admires only has 256mb RAM as well. My business partner's Droid is overclocked but honestly, I see no difference comparing it to a Nexus One.
The only reason that there are "RAM problems" with the iPad is because of bad programming by developers.
Only that much RAM?
All you whiners, get off your frick'n spec reading soap boxes. I'm sorry but sometime you people who only look at specs piss me off. As an electrical computer engineer I know that specs only speak a small part of the story. I know software engineers could back this up that with OS development it's about the integration to the hardware that is being used. I usually keep my mouth shut when it comes to stuff like this but I've had enough of everyone complaining. This IS one reason why apple products usually outperform at tasks to the exact same spec's of their pc counterparts. If in read world use the iPhone 4G/HD can perform it's tasks completely fine, there is no issue with specs. We see issues already with Android 2.1/2.2 upgrades. The software not made with any particular hardware in mind which leads to "needing upgrade". And no I don't have an iPhone. I only watch as a spectator.
All you whiners, get off your frick'n spec reading soap boxes. I'm sorry but sometime you people who only look at specs piss me off. As an electrical computer engineer I know that specs only speak a small part of the story. I know software engineers could back this up that with OS development it's about the integration to the hardware that is being used. I usually keep my mouth shut when it comes to stuff like this but I've had enough of everyone complaining. This IS one reason why apple products usually outperform at tasks to the exact same spec's of their pc counterparts. If in read world use the iPhone 4G/HD can perform it's tasks completely fine, there is no issue with specs. We see issues already with Android 2.1/2.2 upgrades. The software not made with any particular hardware in mind which leads to "needing upgrade". And no I don't have an iPhone. I only watch as a spectator.
Hideous is right. I sure hope that this is not the final design or Android, here I come.
I had the same opinion until the iPad was released with nearly identical specs, running the same apps, running the same OS, etc. 256MB is NOT, I repeat, NOT enough. The browser cache is constantly flushed and it will only get worse with multitasking.
i think you over exaggerating ... NEVER I got low memory on my ipad.. i have a jailbroken 32GB and run multiple apps in the background and no problems every ... stop complaining
Why do you own a hackintosh then?
And, you know what, bad programmers are never going to go away. So, the consumer just has to keep suffering? The costs have been calculated and it would have cost Apple $5.60 to put an extra 256 of RAM into the iPad. However, multiply this by millions and there's your answer for Apple not putting in more RAM.
Of course.... Apple cannot be guilty................................. Apple is perfection...
thats a pretty flawed argument really isn't it? so new android handsets are coming out every day as good as, and the people locked into a contract when a new model come out do what, pay cash for a new one? i think most people that look at an iPhone and buy it are happy enough to wait until their contract ends and they can upgrade. in all honesty i don't really know why i swapped in my 3G for s 3GS, there is really nothing i do day to day that makes a difference between the 2 models. i don't see Apple trying to conquer the mobile market just take a healthy share, which it seems they are doing year on year, just the same way that they are doing in the desktop and mobile market. lets face it, if someone prefers 1 product over another they will buy it and this 'new' unconfirmed phone is just the same.
oh and by the way, all the people moaning about 256MB ram, jesus it's a phone, i remember my first IBM AT desktop pc had just 256K ram! get over it.
it's not sluggishness that's an issue; it's that if you have four tabs open and go back to the first one, Safari will more often that not have to reload the page because it was dumped from memory.
And the Droid is a phone released in December or 2009. The HTC Incredible and HTC Evo? 512MB of memory.
Don't get me wrong; I am no fan of HTC nor Android. But the 256MB thing is an issue for me in iPad use, I don't want it to be an issue in iPhone use, and I don't want to give anybody reasons to tout specs over the iPhone.
I agree it's way more masculine. I reckon it's going to be much more of a hit with business users for that reason and stare down Blackberry even more.
Yes, stop complaining so the issue never gets resolved? What kind of attitude is that?
So, Mobile Safari on the iPad is a product of bad programming by developers? Really?
What is so hard to admit that the memory ceiling is an issue with Safari? It is. Period.
When even John Gruber is calling out the deficiency, you know it's a real problem.
I believe everyone who is whining should remember these are just rumors.
Also keep in mind there have always been multiple different models of iPhones and iPhone Touch's.
The latest updates to the Touch included a "basic" model and then two superior models for more money (including better graphics and storage).
Apple also has been getting in the habit of releasing product in a newer design but keeping the old specs the same with a few tweaks, (look at the Macbook).
This could just be (speculation) a remake of the 3GS in the newer form. This way they can continue to offer a "basic" model like the Touch and then have more "superior" models to those that whine about everything. Why manufacture the older model and keep it in production when you have a newer form design and a new processor (A4) for all models. Transfer it all to one uniform design and keep one "basic".
So many things to consider and so many people jumping ahead of themselves and making conclusions without all the facts. Lets just wait to see what the announcement is. Less than one month away (hopefully).
Also keep in mind there have always been multiple different models of iPhones and iPhone Touch's.
The latest updates to the Touch included a "basic" model and then two superior models for more money (including better graphics and storage).
Apple also has been getting in the habit of releasing product in a newer design but keeping the old specs the same with a few tweaks, (look at the Macbook).
This could just be (speculation) a remake of the 3GS in the newer form. This way they can continue to offer a "basic" model like the Touch and then have more "superior" models to those that whine about everything. Why manufacture the older model and keep it in production when you have a newer form design and a new processor (A4) for all models. Transfer it all to one uniform design and keep one "basic".
So many things to consider and so many people jumping ahead of themselves and making conclusions without all the facts. Lets just wait to see what the announcement is. Less than one month away (hopefully).
I am just so excited about this. The phone has this utilitarian look to it which is just right. I just got my custom Mac Mini today and it will go perfectly together with this new iPhone in June. So much to look forward to. Apple's design scheme is just tops and I am happy to be a part of it. 