They’re actually using a Synaptics sensor. But yeah, there’s a couple of technologies now for under display sensors.
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Next iPhone X Lineup Said to Feature Smaller Notches, 2019 Models May Ditch Notch Entirely
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They’re actually using a Synaptics sensor. But yeah, there’s a couple of technologies now for under display sensors.
These things are not mutually exclusive. The notch is fine now, I don't notice it at all on my iPhone X. When a device comes out without it, that will be great too.
Notch is a solution in search of a problem. Introduce the notch then make it smaller until there is no notch while the competition will get it right by embedding sensors into the display.
Notch is the equivalent of a Steve Ballmer physical keyboard when the industry has shifted to virtual screen keyboard.
Notch is the equivalent of a Steve Ballmer physical keyboard when the industry has shifted to virtual screen keyboard.
It’s funny, I was totally against the notch until I used it. In portrait mode, I think it makes it look really cool. There are “cubbies” for the time and battery usage. Visually, I like it. “Edge” phones warp your conten and that bothers me to no end. However...
Horizontal viewing and reduced space in the status bar make it a problem for me.
Returned my iPhone X due to the increase in weight, size, and shortcomings of the notch. Prefer the 8 form-factor.
Personally I don’t like the notch. What I do like is the little bit of extra screen real estate it gives us to accommodate what would normally be the status bar.
The more they shrink it, the more of that we get. Which is just fine with me. So in a way I do like the notch, just kind of in reverse
Totally fair, it's an aesthetic that some people just won't like. I don't mind though as it doesn't take anything away from the use of the phone.
Apple hasn’t ruled out adding an under-display sensor in the future as well as FaceID. There was an interview with Phil and Craig a while back where they said they’d consider it if they felt it was the right move for the consumer. So, we’ll see.
Their willingness to accommodate the Notch over a physical home button suggests you are right...I don't think there is any scenario where they'd go back, especially assuming their engineering is going to solve that issue (the Notch) over time.
I dig Touch ID, but, in general, Apple's security is good enough for me...I just don't like the idea of footprint on the edge of the screen when watching videos or playing games. Clearly, it doesn't bother you or a lot of other people, but we all have our individual quirks.
Because another company perfected the fingerprint through the glass tech. No need for the face iD.
Thanks, I fixed my post.
I would like to see Apple go back to a fingerprint sensor, especially one under the screen.
Didn’t see the value add of the 8 compared to the 6S, no matter how much I wanted a replacement.
And in the mean time, has to have large bezels, sensors on the back of phones, and bad, insecure "facial recognition" that can be tricked by photos. Sure, they may end up in the same place a few years from now (like everyone did with Fingerprint Sensors) but Apple is ahead for the time being.
It's ridiculous to think that the notch will be gone in 2019. It's cameras & sensors - they've gotta go somewhere & face the user! And they can't simply be shoved under the OLED or LCD screen since at least some of them require an unobstructed view! So either you have a notch or you have what amounts to a bigger bezel. The only thing that can be done is make it smaller. That's it.
Yea I wasn't 100% sure when I first ordered, but it doesn't take away from the phone at all. After about a day, I didn't really notice it. The positives outweighed the design choice.
Yeah, I don’t really notice it now. The notch is a byproduct of Apple wanting to maximise the screen. It was the only way to do that, so in that regard it makes total sense. I actually respect them for doing it, it’s a bold decision that was always going to split opinion. I much prefer the honest design direction they took, rather than cop out and just put a pointless bar across the top.
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There’s hope, maybe not an awful lot. But still, a small glimmer of hope.
The only real competition, Samsung, just released the S9 without a finger print scanner under the display.. So If they are to get it "right" it wont be until 2019, AKA the same year that this rumor is suggesting that Apple would completely remove the notch and therefore "get it right".
Confirmation that the X is the first generation.
Not sure what you mean, but there is nothing "beta" about the iPhone X. Easily the best iPhone they have made and really shows a bright future for iOS.
It's not just about the glass - it's about the glass & the OLED (or LCD). Some of these sensors are basically cameras, so there needs to be an aperture to capture light. How's the aperture going to get all the light bouncing off the desired object (e.g. the face) if it's partially or entirely obscured by OLED/LCD electronics?It's simply having a sensor that will work under the glass. It's the glass that requires the breakthrough. It's always been about the glass. Gorilla Glass (or Apple's version) gets it's strength from nano sized particles of metal infused within, among other processes. This interferes with any scanning, bouncing, penetrating, etc...... IMO, Corning and Apple are close. 2019 could be the year. I think Apple will be going back to a fingerprint scanner under the screen in 2 years.
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Please point to the patents you're referring to. There are patents for putting touch sensors behind the screen, but I'm not aware of some magical tech that can capture light when there's an LCD/OLED in front of it.
Why do you think Samsung avoided this? Shouldn’t they have put it into the S9 so they could leapfrog everyone else?
The answer is simple - because it’s likely not good enough yet. People have tried the Vivo Phone, and while it generally works it’s not as fast or easy as current fingerprint sensors. Plus we don’t know how reliable or secure it is (since Synaptics uses an image of your finger it might be easy to trick, compared to Qualcomms system which is ultrasonic).
Qualcomms sensor was also shown in a Vivo Phone 8 months ago and it was noticeably slower. If the tech was any good you’d think it would have shown up in the S9 by now.
By the time anyone gets this to market (Note 9 possibly) Apple will already be on FaceID version 2 and not looking back.
Don't believe apple would impose so many screen resolution changes to developers so quickly. This is a false rumor.
