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Mike, as I've commented in another post, no one can play with these phones for a few minutes and understand the reasoning and usefulness of their UI design decisions. It takes actually using them.

I agree with you, but my criticisms for the Sense UI is more out of the latency that I incurred, that is it "felt" more sluggish then when I had my Nexus one.

I owned (and returned) a nexus one and used it up until the time I had to return it, two weeks. I agree that the android UI is so different then the iPhone UI that there is needed an adjustment period, not really a learning curve per se but getting used to how a different OS works.

With that said, my prior experience with android and not really caring on how it work, organizationally. I was disappointed in the fell of the sense ui. People rave over this and I failed to see how it was markedly better then the default android UI. Yeah, the more I use it, them ore I'd see how different (and even better) Overall though I'd want the UI to be snappy and it wasn't
 
I agree with you, but my criticisms for the Sense UI is more out of the latency that I incurred, that is it "felt" more sluggish then when I had my Nexus one.

Interesting. Never having used an N-1, I can't compare.

The Incredible has been extremely fast and butter smooth for me.

You can turn off some or all the animations in Settings, to get a "snappier" feel.

What's time consuming (and fun) is figuring out how I want to organize the app icons and widgets on the different homescreens. Same situation as on the iPhone, except for the widgets. (I don't see how Apple can continue to ignore the usefulness of widgets; I bet they'll come along sometime.)
 
One thing is for sure the incredible is selling like hot cakes. While I was there at the verizon store yesterday checking it out, there were a number of people ordering the phone. I say ordering and not buying because it was on back order.

There are aspects to the android phone that are important to me, and the incredible doesn't seem to fit those needs.

For instance, I do want to root the phone and put a custom rom. At this point in time, its not root-able. Given what I've read it may be a while before it is.

Second thing is that by getting the N1, I'd be able to get updates faster then waiting for the carrier to customize it. For instance, 2.1 has been out for a while, but it took verizon a fair amount of time to finally give it to their droid phones.

Finally, an unlocked phone allows me to continue on the aTT network w/o incurring an ETF. The downside is that I am on the ATT network. Verizon's coverage is better and that's one thing I'm yearning for.
 
One thing is for sure the incredible is selling like hot cakes. While I was there at the verizon store yesterday checking it out, there were a number of people ordering the phone. I say ordering and not buying because it was on back order.

Here BGR's on Incredible shortage:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010...id-incredible-in-stock-due-to-part-shortages/

HTC Desire & Incredible is flying out of shelf everywhere. It's selling as well as the iPad. There is no doubt EVO will be a hot seller as well.
 
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Hopefully HTC don't screw around with FroYo updates for the Incredible or Evo. European Hero users are still on poxy cupcake......

Bring on the FroYo for Nexus One aswell! :p Some incredible additions coming soon. Can't wait.
 

Hopefully HTC don't screw around with FroYo updates for the Incredible or Evo. European Hero users are still on poxy cupcake......

Bring on the FroYo for Nexus One aswell! :p Some incredible additions coming soon. Can't wait.

This is why I'm going to go back to the Nexus over the incredible. I'll get updates sooner then waiting for the carrier but also the N1 is rootable. They've not been able to root the incredible yet.
 
So I got impatient waiting for Froyo and rooted my N1 yesterday and loaded CyanogenMod. WOW, talk about a speed improvement. The N1 was fast before, but now with 33 processes running I still have ~250MB or RAM free and no delay whatsover. I still haven't found a music player I like as much as the iPhone's, but I know bTunes is out there which simulates the experience, maybe I'll give it a try.
 
So I got impatient waiting for Froyo and rooted my N1 yesterday and loaded CyanogenMod. WOW, talk about a speed improvement. The N1 was fast before, but now with 33 processes running I still have ~250MB or RAM free and no delay whatsover. I still haven't found a music player I like as much as the iPhone's, but I know bTunes is out there which simulates the experience, maybe I'll give it a try.

Is typing at all improved? Have you noticed that sometimes the keyboard has an offset (like pressing space bar when you mean to press something in the middle row) that locking and unlocking the phone fixes?

Looking forward to froyo for my nexus one. (particularly media management)
 
That's good to hear.

I just re-ordered the Nexus from google. I was going to wait until June, but I was concerned the google store would have closed by then but more importantly my step son broke his iphone and my wife volunteered mine - go figure. No big deal as she new I was getting ready to get an android based phone.

All that is needed now is start a "by by iPhone" thread here :p

I'm more excited about the Nexus now then I was about maybe buying an iPhone next month. I'm stoked :D
 
Is typing at all improved? Have you noticed that sometimes the keyboard has an offset (like pressing space bar when you mean to press something in the middle row) that locking and unlocking the phone fixes?

Looking forward to froyo for my nexus one. (particularly media management)

That's not really keyboard related as I've had it happen just on the home screen as well. Simply locking/unlocking the phone resolves the issue for me, however I have yet to have it happen with CyanogenMod. Then again, I've only been on it for about 24 hours so who knows. As far as typing goes, I've used Swype from day 1 of owning my N1 and love it, I can't imagine typing without it now.
 
Installing FroYo now! :D

DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK! Update: Word is this is for T-Mobile N1's only. source
Download URL: android.clients.google.com/packages/passion/signed-passion-FRF50-from-ERE27.1e519a24.zip

Install instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6559166&postcount=962

All credits go to the people at XDA Developers who found the FyoYo download URL.
DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK!

Mine is rebooting right now.

UPDATE: All went well for me! Installing Adobe Flash now. :D
 
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A quick reply to show the new browser header. It's fast people!
 
Have you tried the "3" music player from the market. Its very different, but very slick.


So I got impatient waiting for Froyo and rooted my N1 yesterday and loaded CyanogenMod. WOW, talk about a speed improvement. The N1 was fast before, but now with 33 processes running I still have ~250MB or RAM free and no delay whatsover. I still haven't found a music player I like as much as the iPhone's, but I know bTunes is out there which simulates the experience, maybe I'll give it a try.
 
Have Froyo and I am loving it! I still can't believe it really is faster. This is truly amazing with all the stuff they put into it that wasn't even mentioned at the conference!.

I will post another reply with all the new stuff I find :)

Let us know how this goes... also where did you go to install flash? I have a buddy with a Nexus One who just updated and wasn't entirely sure, I'd like to pass on the info to him.

I installed Flash from the market. No problems to install it whatsoever btw.
 
The nexus certainly did feel snappier© even if the touch screen was tad imprecise.

I've played with both the pre and post Froyo updates and I have to say, the touch is noticably better with 2.2. I was really surprised.

That being said: the last time I dropped $500 on a phone was on the first iPhone. I desperately need a new phone now (screen issues, no power button and no vibrate function on my iPhone 3G) and while the 4th Generation iPhone seems like the best choice, I keep getting tempted by the open-source of Android and the Nexus One's technical prowess.

Its a hard to decision to make, I think I might order one and see how I like it. 2 weeks to return it, right? Hmm... pretty close to WWDC, though... oh well, lots to think about.
 
Any of you guys have an AT&T N1? Can't track down a version of Froyo that will install on mine. Getting impatient LOL.
 
Have Froyo and I am loving it! I still can't believe it really is faster. This is truly amazing with all the stuff they put into it that wasn't even mentioned at the conference!.

I will post another reply with all the new stuff I find :)

Oh wow...Froyo is great. My install went flawlessly, and it left all my apps in place, homescreen configurations stayed the same, and so far no problems with any apps so far. And...they fixed my biggest complaint! There's a usable cut, copy, and paste function in the native Gmail app! And it's actually not bad. Not as good as the Apple implementation, but at least Google is quick to add features that customers voice complaints about. And all my inline images in emails are showing just fine now, whereas before there was often a problem showing them.

As far a performance goes, this stock firmware feels faster than even the latest Cyanogenmod. So I can't wait to see what they can do with this to improve performance even more.

I know I've only been messing with this update for a couple of hours now, but this has really added some of the much needed polish to Android. It's so weird to see Flash working in a mobile browser and not really lagging much (I have a great AT&T data speed around my area..over 2500kbps typically, so I think this helps it greatly). The little changes like adding the option of a pin lock code instead of the swipe pattern to unlock the phone is nice...using this option instead of the pattern allows you to still have the quick software silence/vibrate switch on screen without having to unlock the phone.
If anyone has any questions, post them and I'll be glad to try to answer them.

I'm on an AT&T Nexus One. PM me for the link to the firmware download.
 
That's what I thought. I figured with all of the ex iPhone owners here someone might have an AT&T baseband N1 running 2.2. Guess we'll just have to wait!
 
That's what I thought. I figured with all of the ex iPhone owners here someone might have an AT&T baseband N1 running 2.2. Guess we'll just have to wait!

Both my and Vandam's Nexus One (I believe) are AT&T versions and we have installed the Froyo update. I've actually PM'ed you the download link to get it.
 
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Is that the Android intent stuff kenypowa? I'll definitely give that a go later today. :D
 
Might be too early to tell, but does 2.2 diminish the need to root? Or is there still a good amount of stuff that stock 2.2 doesn't do that a rooted 2.2 does do?
 
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