Can you please stop calling it "io7" or "the io7?" It is called iOS 7. OS stands for "Operating System." Please read this page so you'll have some sort of credibility:
http://www.apple.com/ios/
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No going back to iOS 6 = no more Apple purchases! I'm starting a movement
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Can you please stop calling it "io7" or "the io7?" It is called iOS 7. OS stands for "Operating System." Please read this page so you'll have some sort of credibility:
http://www.apple.com/ios/
There probably was a very good reason why rollback time period was very short.
One one clicks on "agree" to the terms and conditions, ....
Cannot be too bad though percentage wise because I tried to update to 7.0.2 before and server was slow so I guess people want the latest.
One one clicks on "agree" to the terms and conditions, ....
Cannot be too bad though percentage wise because I tried to update to 7.0.2 before and server was slow so I guess people want the latest.
I've actually read most of this thread.
The OP has such a valid and logical point that the only rebuttals have been to leave, buy something else, and get over it it's just a phone.
If you're happy with iOS 7, great. But it has caused problems and reduced usability for many, and there's no defendable reason to not allow people to get their devices back to the previous version for a longer amount of time.
It isn't always easy to ignore the bright red circle on my settings icon insisting that I update. I regret upgrading to iOS 7, despite liking much of it, because it cripples my music app completely.
If the thread doesn't interest you, there are many others. The OP has good points and valid concern, whether you like it or not.
I'd be upset if I took my new car in for service and it came back with new blinding white dash lights, and only 4 radio presets, etc etc.
The OP has such a valid and logical point that the only rebuttals have been to leave, buy something else, and get over it it's just a phone.
If you're happy with iOS 7, great. But it has caused problems and reduced usability for many, and there's no defendable reason to not allow people to get their devices back to the previous version for a longer amount of time.
It isn't always easy to ignore the bright red circle on my settings icon insisting that I update. I regret upgrading to iOS 7, despite liking much of it, because it cripples my music app completely.
If the thread doesn't interest you, there are many others. The OP has good points and valid concern, whether you like it or not.
I'd be upset if I took my new car in for service and it came back with new blinding white dash lights, and only 4 radio presets, etc etc.
Far too many harebrained trolls and lemmings out there unfortunately (in real life and even more so online).
I read this on another site that i thought was interesting:
"basically Apple has spoiled us the first iPhone was a major change to everything you knew before. Every subsequent hard and soft upgrade felt like a logical step which became part of my life and I loved it. Criticizing iOS7 may look like every one is nitpicking here,
but this time the upgrade doesn't feel so logical anymore.... I tried altering everything i could and finally a full black wallpaper did the trick to accept the fiery icons... for the rest I went back to default which was acceptable. But the old iPhone feel was gone. Every time I open messages it is screaming at me. If only I could set the white background to a different shade then the same blue and green will get a different feel.
For example Ian Storm Tayler gave a nuanced review on the icons (search for "whats-wrong-with-the-ios-7-icons"). it's his view but he tried to putr his finger on what was missing.
Apple is a closed environment which I don't want to miss
I don't want to jailbreak or get a whatever phone... what worries me most now is that Apple always knew
what was good for me or the esthetic target I belong to but for the first time with iOS7 they dropped us
how can you create an amazing 5s and not see what is lacking in iOS7. I hope and I'm sure it will change
for the time being I want to use 6. and wait in silence for the next upgrade
If only I could downgrade...."
Yes, if only we could downgrade.... . While this comment only focused on one aspect of ios7, I wish i had the faith of this poster, but Apple is not showing any flexibility at all Actually, with their automatic downloads they are showing more inflexibility than ever before...
"basically Apple has spoiled us the first iPhone was a major change to everything you knew before. Every subsequent hard and soft upgrade felt like a logical step which became part of my life and I loved it. Criticizing iOS7 may look like every one is nitpicking here,
but this time the upgrade doesn't feel so logical anymore.... I tried altering everything i could and finally a full black wallpaper did the trick to accept the fiery icons... for the rest I went back to default which was acceptable. But the old iPhone feel was gone. Every time I open messages it is screaming at me. If only I could set the white background to a different shade then the same blue and green will get a different feel.
For example Ian Storm Tayler gave a nuanced review on the icons (search for "whats-wrong-with-the-ios-7-icons"). it's his view but he tried to putr his finger on what was missing.
Apple is a closed environment which I don't want to miss
I don't want to jailbreak or get a whatever phone... what worries me most now is that Apple always knew
what was good for me or the esthetic target I belong to but for the first time with iOS7 they dropped us
how can you create an amazing 5s and not see what is lacking in iOS7. I hope and I'm sure it will change
for the time being I want to use 6. and wait in silence for the next upgrade
If only I could downgrade...."
Yes, if only we could downgrade.... . While this comment only focused on one aspect of ios7, I wish i had the faith of this poster, but Apple is not showing any flexibility at all Actually, with their automatic downloads they are showing more inflexibility than ever before...
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No they did not! How long they might have had a beta available for testing is very different than the time period between when the message appeared on the phone/ipad and the closing of the window to revert back. Most consumers know little or nothing about testing beta versions, nor should they . Ios7 was released on Thursday Sept 18 and the window to revert was taken down somewhere less than two days later - although correct me if I am off here because I am having difficulty reading the io7 calendar
Because the window was not as long as you wanted doesn't mean the didn't have a time frame to revert.
Actually, they probably understand the law VERY well, and get as close as they can to infringing the law and live in that gray area thus requiring expensive and time-consuming litigation and lawsuits. It's much better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission. Just think of all the areas where they are possibly "getting away" with something as they have pushed the issues and require legal interpretation from the Justice Department or class-action lawsuits to get them to change since they operate in this ambiguous space.
Two days? Assuming that is that you downloaded it the first second the message appeared on your iphone/ipad...
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I am not sure about making valid points, more like an opinion of one person that is clearly in the minority when it comes to iOS7.
He doesn't have to like the update, but to assume reverting back to iOS6 is a consumer rights issue is a little much.
Gosh! This thread is really boring! Why? Because the same mantra about "oh dear oh dear, woe is me!, I made a mistake and now I can't correct it!" is being repeated over and over again! What's the point?
Just a thought. How many owners of the iPhone 5s and 5c have complained that they can't downgrade to IOS6?
Just a thought. How many owners of the iPhone 5s and 5c have complained that they can't downgrade to IOS6?
I also think the OP makes some valid points but I can't agree with it being a consumers right only because the software and hardware are both designed by Apple. I don't know whether it affects a few or many.
The one thing that can be taken from this is, this is unlike Apple in the past. They had to deal with the blowback from removing the YouTube app in iOS 6 as well as Google Maps, whether it was their fault or not.
But here we go again, they now have to deal with the Tech community picking up on issues some users are having with iOS 7. There was a time they could do no wrong, whatever they put out was superb and now.......
53 pages of complaints on just this site
https://discussions.apple.com/message/23195575?ac_cid=tw123456#23195575
Can't you see that having a longer window to evaluate a new iOS is in your interest too. Maybe this time you were well aware of the changes in the beta version and happened to like them too... And maybe this time it worked out fine for your ipad or iphone... But what if next time you were busy with work and didn't have time to evaluate a beta version... What if next time you download the new iOS on your phone and it slows it down to a molasses pace... Upon discovering it, you find you tiny window to revert was gone... What if the one whose phone was crippled was your moms or dads or son,s or daughters and they don't really follow these things...
Just because an opinion is in the minority doesn't invalidate it. Most people don't care about their privacy online, control of the devices they own, keeping access to electronic purchases, or numerous other things. They'll label people that care about such things as whining idiots, until they get bitten by their own shortsightedness that is.
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If it's so boring why are you reading it?
Unfortunately, you're totally missing one of the main points of this thread.
If you bought a 5s or 5c, you are paying the $500 for this new hardware and the new IOS 7. And you have 30 days to return it for a refund to Apple.
http://store.apple.com/us/help/returns_refund
So you have 30 days at home to try it out. If you don't like the new phone or the new IOS 7 or you think the colors and fonts are ugly, then you can return it within 30 days. Pretty reasonable, I say...
However, I think the main issue of the OP and others is that many of had previously purchased phones with IOS 6 that was working fine for their needs. After upgrading to IOS 7 and testing it out hands-on, they realized that either they didn't like the design and/or functionality of the new software. However, there was only a short 2 day window to revert.
Yeah...not the same thing there.Last year ios 6 was boring and wasn't really a upgrade.Now everyone wants to go back to ios 6.
You gotta love it
Simply put, the iPhone iOS has lost it's character. It is no longer an iPhone. It seems there are a lot of delusional people here who think...
that it's snappier the iOS 6
it has better battery life (perhaps if you disable everything)
they think the new clock dial is easier to read now
they love the new msg app and the retarded keyboard
they love the fact that there is no continuity in color schemes or navigation icons
they really think the control panel looks so cool with that ugly grey color and
they like the fact that Apple didn't include a Cellular toggle on/off with it
they love the fact that the folder colors now blend in with the background so much that you can't make out your folders anymore
Hmm... what else do you love about it?
that it's snappier the iOS 6
it has better battery life (perhaps if you disable everything)
they think the new clock dial is easier to read now
they love the new msg app and the retarded keyboard
they love the fact that there is no continuity in color schemes or navigation icons
they really think the control panel looks so cool with that ugly grey color and
they like the fact that Apple didn't include a Cellular toggle on/off with it
they love the fact that the folder colors now blend in with the background so much that you can't make out your folders anymore
Hmm... what else do you love about it?
Good luck with that
I've broken no rules, insulted no one, made no threats and have merely answered questions made toward me. Everything said has been in relation to the thread topic, no trolling here.
Don't like what I have to say, don't read my posts. The thought of you getting so uptight and annoyed that you "reported" me amuses me no end and proves you don't have it in you to have a sensible, factual, conversation.
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Exactly... 2 days is not enough time to test it out. I waited one day too long to downgrade
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Then why do they STILL allow 3G iphones to to downgrade to 3.1.3 from 4.2.1...years later? Why didn't they close the signing window in this case?
iOS 4 more or less destroyed the 3G performance wise, it was horrific.
iPhone 4 on iOS 7 is nowhere near as bad as iOS 4 on iPhone 3G.
Trust me!
iOS 4 more or less destroyed the 3G performance wise, it was horrific.
iPhone 4 on iOS 7 is nowhere near as bad as iOS 4 on iPhone 3G.
Trust me![/QUOTE]
Nevertheless, people still have the option years later to downgrade from iOS4 to 3 if they so choose to. We should also have the same option to downgrade from 7 to 6 imao. Performance can be subjective from user to user (phone to phone) as well.
iPhone 4 on iOS 7 is nowhere near as bad as iOS 4 on iPhone 3G.
Trust me![/QUOTE]
Nevertheless, people still have the option years later to downgrade from iOS4 to 3 if they so choose to. We should also have the same option to downgrade from 7 to 6 imao. Performance can be subjective from user to user (phone to phone) as well.
Don't waste your time, the mods on MR are unapologetically biased. They will allow people to belittle and denigrate users with legitamate complaints and concerns, but will remove posts that call these *******s out.
Little do these abusive Apple loyalists know, they are only cheapening the brand by arrogantly shouting down arguments and announcing that whatever turd Apple releases is flawless.
This post will probably be deleted by the mods, but whatever.
I was lucky enough to revert back in time, I don't hate ios7 it just looks childish.
Probably why so many here like it.
Conclusion: apple as we knew it died with SJ. Time to move on.
Probably why so many here like it.
Conclusion: apple as we knew it died with SJ. Time to move on.
SO people are delusion if they don't share your opinion about iOS 7? You have a pretty high opinion of yourself.
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