No going back to iOS 6 = no more Apple purchases! I'm starting a movement

[adildacoolset]

If you aren't in to the apple fanatic community, you'd have had no idea. A very select few people were running iOS 7 prior to the release, and even in the GM people wrote off every flaw as "it's a beta".

To use your example, you wouldn't see any cars painted 3 months prior. If you did, and didn't like it, you would've been told to wait for the final version. Then you would've been told to try it or your complaints are meaningless. And if you didn't want to, you'd be constantly reminded to paint it every day. And when you finally did let it get painted, and find that it really ruins aspects of it, you have no recourse, no option to revert, and a bunch of people defending the company with worthless statements about how it's just a phone, go elsewhere, etc.

I guess that's what happens when there are no valid rebuttals based on logic.

Those people were wrong. Are you trying to fault me for it? There were apple commercials, reviews, and a dedicated iOS 7 forum here where people were just whining and moaning. To say that someone wouldn't notice the aesthetics without actually using it is silly.

As well, someone would have to be blind to notice that the promotional videos for the 5s/5c had the same colours that people were complaining about in the GM build.

 

[cristovao]

How can I sell a device which now has only 60% of the stated battery life? My three month old iPhone 5 has been ruined by Apple and until/unless they fix this problem my phone remains unsaleable.

Besides this of course, why should I have to lose money by selling an expensive three month old product which worked perfectly well before Apple sabotaged it?

I'm sorry iOS 7 has reduced your iPhone 5 battery by 60%. Is it possible though that there might be additional factors that are in play? I ask because before I sold my iPhone 5, I ran every beta and the GM and barely noticed any battery degradation. The one time I did (on one of the early betas), I simply fully drained my battery and fully charged it and all was well afterwards. I later sold the phone with no complaints (I even asked the buyer if he wanted iOS 6 or 7 and he chose the latter).

It seems to me you are having a specific issue with that specific phone and to generalize it across all 5's with iOS 7 isn't exactly fair or accurate.

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Lots of people don't care about the hardware, they bought the iPhone for iOS exclusively. That's the only reason the bought the hardware, and then Apple forces a new version that clearly isn't ready.

Personally, I buy more for the hardware than I do for the software. That's just me.

Tell me this, what really is the huge issue with allowing people to switch back if it doesn't work within the first couple weeks? Fragmentation is invalid as many still run iOS 6 anyways.

Although I personally really like the design changes in iOS 7, haven't experienced any functionality loss or performance degradation (even on my iPad 2), I fully agree that downgrading to iOS 6 should absolutely be an option for more than two days. I have my opinions on why they don't but there are holes in that logic which makes it pointless to bring up.

 

[HickDead]

Cry me a river.

I'm sure Apple gives a damn about your future product "boycott."

Good luck w/ Android. You'll come back.

 

[Jynto]

Basically, it's like this with iOS upgrades:
We have been upgraded into what the next level of mankind. We are iOS 7.0. Every citizen will receive a free upgrade.
You will become like us.
Upgrading is compulsory. If you refuse, then you will be deleted.
Delete. Delete.
Delete.

 

[Altis]

Those people were wrong. Are you trying to fault me for it? There were apple commercials, reviews, and a dedicated iOS 7 forum here where people were just whining and moaning. To say that someone wouldn't notice the aesthetics without actually using it is silly.

As well, someone would have to be blind to notice that the promotional videos for the 5s/5c had the same colours that people were complaining about in the GM build.

Of course not, this is nothing personal

Many users don't really pay much attention to any of this stuff. One day, their device has a big red dot on the settings icon and says 'update me!', and on iTunes as well. And so it begins, etc.

The keynote and even reviews didn't mention or show many of the flaws that people have issues with, particularly the bugs, lag, reboots, battery decrease, lack of touch response, delays, etc... This is where your mileage may vary.

As such, it would be nice to be able to revert after trying it. Some issues don't show up right away. I'm still having new issues with it. Although I like much of iOS 7, it would be nice to have the choice for a little bit, and it really wouldn't hurt Apple to do so. I suspect it may be the other way around.

 

[apolloa]

The OP may not need to start a movement as the story of iOS causing people to feel sick is now gathering pace:

http://www.t3.com/news/apples-ios-7-is-reportedly-making-some-users-sick

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/sep/27/ios-7-motion-sickness-nausea

Personally I hate iOS7 the more I use it.

 

[byke]

Lots of people I know have complained about ios to me and asking how to downgrade.

 

[m00min]

Lots of people I know have complained about ios to me and asking how to downgrade.

Funnily enough I was at a birthday party this afternoon, I spoke to a woman who had just run the iOS7 update a couple of days ago. She said she was gonna sort out downgrading as she didn't like it. I had to tell her that wasn't possible. She was surprised by that and not happy.

 

[sunking101]

Allowing people to revert to iOS6 would be admitting failure and I can see why Apple won't do it.
HOWEVER, iOS7 feels and looks like a BETA so it should never have been sent out like this. Never mind the maps fiasco in iOS6; heads should really roll for the battery drain, bright white backgrounds, thin text, 'trendy' colour scheme, interface inconsistencies and dreadful icons in iOS7.

 

[rajat8676]

Nobody forced you to upgrade. They didn't tell you that you MUST accept the new system.

So, what is life in "I'm entitled to everything"land like, anyway? Disappointing?

So you are one of those guys who will accept whatever crap comes out of Apple. It's because of you guys that quality of Apple has gone down drastically. Constructive criticism cannot be taken, is it???

 

[C DM]

Right... We'll give you 3 months notice before we paint it. Even then, you'll have an option of whether you want it or not. In the meantime, you could have checked all the other cars to see if you like it.

Except that using your analogy even if you don't want to paint your car a new color you still get the paint buckets put in your trunk without being able to take them out and have to ride around with that taking up space that you might want/need. What way could you possibly spin that to make that even close to being a positive thing?

 

[SusanK]

Allowing people to revert to iOS6 would be admitting failure and I can see why Apple won't do it.
HOWEVER, iOS7 feels and looks like a BETA so it should never have been sent out like this. Never mind the maps fiasco in iOS6; heads should really roll for the battery drain, bright white backgrounds, thin text, 'trendy' colour scheme, interface inconsistencies and dreadful icons in iOS7.

Yep, Cook should fire himself for this one.

 

[C DM]

iOS 7 is not a car, no one is painting it, iOS 7 is software, it belongs to Apple, you are only buying the device, not the software, once you buy an iPhone and click "agree" on the EULA, you are accepting Apple terms, which dictates that you are agreeing to any changes and updates that Apple makes, and that includes the ability to not go back to iOS 6.

You are free to buy a different phone and different software, you could sell your iPhone, and since it's an Apple product, it has one of the best after market resale value.

What sort of sense does any of that make? If Apple puts out and update that makes the phone stop working like a phone you just have to accept that and that's that? Yeah, good luck justifying that one.

 

[nikicampos]

What sort of sense does any of that make? If Apple puts out and update that makes the phone stop working like a phone you just have to accept that and that's that? Yeah, good luck justifying that one.

Who's phone stopped working as a phone??

And if it stopped working because of the update, just take it to the nearest Apple store.

One day when I have more time I will try to explain to you the EULA, until then, here you go with the first two pages..

That's it for me and this thread, it's like trying to explain 2+2 to a chair.

 

[Mike in Kansas]

Basically, it's like this with iOS upgrades:
We have been upgraded into what the next level of mankind. We are iOS 7.0. Every citizen will receive a free upgrade.
You will become like us.
Upgrading is compulsory. If you refuse, then you will be deleted.
Delete. Delete.
Delete.
Image

I don't agree with the position, but LOVE the reference!

 

[burgerking2]

Except that using your analogy even if you don't want to paint your car a new color you still get the paint buckets put in your trunk without being able to take them out and have to ride around with that taking up space that you might want/need. What way could you possibly spin that to make that even close to being a positive thing?

And to take this car painting analogy a little further...

For those that did willingly choose to get their $25,000 car painted by the dealership for free, after watching all the cool commercials on youtube and seeing the glitzy brochures. And being told by the dealership, this is a highly highly recommended (almost mandatory) paint job that provides many benefits and has been tested on cars for the past 3 months... Once it's painted and they get it home, some find that it gives off a bright blinding glare when the sun hits the hood.

They try to ignore it, but after they drive it around town for a day or so, they decide that they find this side effect of the glare too distracting and would've preferred to just keep the old paint job... There's no way to have known about this until driving it around town for a couple days...

 

[hafr]

How can I sell a device which now has only 60% of the stated battery life? My three month old iPhone 5 has been ruined by Apple and until/unless they fix this problem my phone remains unsaleable.

Besides this of course, why should I have to lose money by selling an expensive three month old product which worked perfectly well before Apple sabotaged it?

Contact apple, get a replacement phone. I did, I now get nine hours of wifi usage out of it (all on screen action).

 

[rider96]

Heres an article from todays las vegas guardian:
"Is iOS7 more of a bad apple than a revolutionary new Apple innovation? There have been many complaints including the top five below.

The other day I did an article about how well the new iOS7 and the new iPhone5s are doing business-wise (Click here to read that article).

On paper, the company looks like it can do no wrong. In the first week of launching, it had over 200 million downloads of its new OS and the new iPhones5s were flying off of store shelves. Both products produced record-breaking sales numbers for Apple Inc.

Then I saw my bestfriend, a long-time Apple user, who was furious at how the iOS7 has “messed up her iPhone4.” She said the user interface looked kiddy and very similar to Android. She couldn’t figure out how to take a video on her iPhone, and sometimes she couldn’t even properly place calls or texts. At one point, she kept borrowing my Android phone to make plans with others.

Then I asked myself, is Apple really living up to Steve Jobs’ standard of giving the customer new ways to improve their life or are they more concerned with breaking record sales and keeping shareholders happy?

According to a Twitter user, “#iOS7 is the worst thing #apple ever did.” Some of the most recent complaints about the new operating system are the following:

1. Many users have been bothered about a nauseating experience similar to motion sickness with the iOS7. An unhappy user complained on Fox News that they, “Have headaches and nausea for [the] past three days… can’t stand to look at my phone screen anymore while opening/closing apps. I just close my eyes or look away.” This might be caused by the “parallax” feature on the iOS7 that makes the background move back and forth in a subtle way.

2. To mature-minded individuatls, the the iOS7 also has a kiddy, overly-simple appearance and with no widgets, the screen is still very static. It has no stimulating movement unlike the icons found on Android and Windows phones.

3. iOS7 seems to have a lower battery life. One YouTube user said, “iOS7 is so bad it turns itself off.” Another rant on Twitter said, “ios7 update is *********!!!! My battery is being munched on faster than PAC man would.. #apple #sortitout.” At the very least, one way you might be able to fix this problem is to turn off the automatic upgrades of apps running in the background in the phone settings.

4. Some people find that there are many new hard-to-use features. The Control Center, AirDrop and iTunes Radio are fun additions, but you generally have to take some time to find your way around the new iOS7.

One small feature that users hate is the smaller space bar on the touch screen keyboard. They wind up repeatedly hitting the period key instead and that alone can cause aggravation. And the text on the new screens are also thinner and more airy-looking causing many people to squint even when they are simply looking at the time.

5. And, once you start using iOS7, you can’t go back. There is just no going around it. Apple apparently did have the option for users to go back to iOS6 for a short while, but now, the iOS7 is a done deal. If you have not yet upgraded (or some would say, “downgraded”) your iPhone’s OS, make sure you are 100% comfortable with the iOS7 or else you might be stuck with a phone you can’t stand using. The latest iOS7.0.2 has just been released. Let’s see how that one fares better than its predecessor.

Is Apple Inc. still following Steve Jobs’ vision of “sell dreams not products”or is the technology leader starting to fail under the loss of leadership of their most celebrated visionary?

I know personally, my best friend would love to get her good old iOS6 back on her iPhone and forget about the iOS7 upgrade altogether.
(Op-Ed)

By: Chelo Aestrid"

 

[burgerking2]

(sorry to beat a dead horse... )

Oh and one more thing, the "new and improved" paint that they used gives off some fumes that 10% of the drivers find to be noxious and makes them feel ill.

There's no way to have known about the paint fumes until getting it home and driving it around. So for these people the car is almost unusable, unless sticking their nose out the window while driving.

All the while, the dealership does have a special paint stripper that can remove the new paint easily and revert back, but they say it's too late, you already agreed to the terms and conditions when you authorized the paint job...

 

[Black Magic]

Sounds like a hipster. Probably wears really tight pants and hates anything everyone else likes. Probably hates the movie Forest Gump as well.

 

[borostef]

Who's phone stopped working as a phone??

And if it stopped working because of the update, just take it to the nearest Apple store.

One day when I have more time I will try to explain to you the EULA, until then, here you go with the first two pages..

That's it for me and this thread, it's like trying to explain 2+2 to a chair.

And what? If someone hit "agree" on that EULA they have no right to complain... No right to complain about childish design, battery drain, lag... Nothing... The fact is that this is the worst update to any software Apple ever put out... Even if you ignore the design, which is hard to do because it's so ugly... You are still stuck with all the things that made devices that run smooth to devices that barely run... You like it... Fine... I do not... Good for me that I went back to iOS 6 while it was still possible... And thanks to Apple for making it possible to rollback for so long, so that anybody who is not tech orientated is now stuck with your beautiful and functional new operating system...

 

[Anonymous Freak]

So you are one of those guys who will accept whatever crap comes out of Apple. It's because of you guys that quality of Apple has gone down drastically. Constructive criticism cannot be taken, is it???

No, I won't accept whatever comes out of Apple - but when I choose not to accept it, I choose not to upgrade or buy it. I have not bought a new notebook from Apple since they made the batteries internal, because I want the ability to swap batteries whenever I want.

I did not upgrade to Lion, but rather waited until Mountain Lion.

But in neither case did I bitch about how Apple screwed me over by offering these upgrades - I just chose not to use them.

 

[sunking101]

Contact apple, get a replacement phone. I did, I now get nine hours of wifi usage out of it (all on screen action).

Did the problems only arise when iOS7 was installed? I don't see how my battery could suddenly become defective like that.
I bought my handset through a carrier and they want me to post it back. I once sent a laptop for warranty repair and received it back all scratched.....I can just imagine getting my original phone sent back to me all scratched up and with a note saying that it tests within spec etc :-/

 

[APhillyApple]

Bye!

Pretty much this. Good luck to you sir, enjoy whatever you move on with.

 

[Miguel Cunha]

Yes yes yes, Apple is the worst company ever and iPhone is the worst product ever and iOS 7 is the worst software ever... BOO HOO!!!!

You can buy what ever you want, no one forces you to buy Apple products, yes, Apple changed, every company has to change in order to keep selling, if you don't like the way Apple changed, well, unlike some people on this forum said (that Apple takes away your freedom) this is a free world, there are plenty of options out there.

I said none of what you stated. Those are your words, not mine. And no, my words don't mean yours.
Perhaps you're confused by this thread's title, that reflects a third opinion different from ours.

I didn't buy iOS 7. It didn't existed back then.
I didn't want to update to it and I didn't.
Yes, I appreciate freedom of choice, specially over a machine, which I'm sure we all do.

You're right, I believe in a free world.
Therefore, I beleive in freedom of speech, in divergence of opinions and choosing the options that fit me the best.

Don't expand what I said.
iOS 7 is just one of Apple's products.
I never said the iPhone, Mac, OS X, or even iOS 7 were the worst products in the market, or that Apple was the worst company. I just expressed my discontentment regarding a situaion.

If you believe (I don't) that this site is only to praise Apple, no matter what, than you're probably in the wrong place.

I'm an Apple fan, not a fanatic.

For me Apple is like anyother company. I'll buy a product I believe it to be good, otherwise, I won't.

About changes, their a constant, a certainty in life. Some I like, others, I don't.

And I'm grateful for living in a world like this, that has forums like this, where I can express myself.

Remember, everyone has his own point of view to discuss, not to be atacked.