No going back to iOS 6 = no more Apple purchases! I'm starting a movement

[CB1234]

Could this be the first domino to fall?

You are still basing your judgement, only on a few people that you know....

As has been said time and again, people who have issues are the ones who come here to complain, and also the ones paid by competition.... Rest VAST majority are just getting on with their iOS's, whichever version they have....

Is this the first domino to fall??

Only time will tell.... My personal opinion is that Apple still has a lot of mileage left in the tank....

Once Apple sorts out its distribution in key markets of China & India, etc, also sorts it's supply constraints and diversifies it's product range, the Apple juggernaut will roll on - Mon Ami......

That I feel will be the true reflection of the domino effect.... By that time we will be on iOS XX, and whining about that.....

Have a great day !!!!!

 

[SusanK]

This is a change that certain individuals are resisting because it's human nature. They will get over it, and it will be a non-issue.

I agree that some people adjust to change more readily than others. The people who have talked to me about iOS 7 are having issues that did not occur in iOS 6. They are speaking of specifics. Battery drain, apps not updating, crashes, no audible to notify of new messages etc.

I've been to Apple few times to play with the demos and familiarize myself with OS 7. On each visit a blue shirt approaches with the prepared script about people being change adverse. I offer no opinion on iOS 7 at Apple. It's the latest iOS and will be on the devices.

I did a consumer workshop at Apple. The presenter began with the people are change adverse scenario. I have not heard that in a consumer workshop before.

I visit Apple frequently. My rapport with staff is good. They go out of their way to accommodate me. The team at the store is wonderful. A few told me they deal with customers who are extremely unhappy with iOS 7.

I don't know the answer. I like your comment that in a year people will be using iOS 7 without a second thought. I hope it works that way. I also hope it doesn't take Apple a year to get people's devices functioning as well as they were prior to the update.

I understand that many people are using iOS 7 without issue. The people who are experiencing issues since the upgrade should be given the same respect as those who are fortunate enough to have a device working properly.

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You are still basing your judgement, only on a few people that you know....

If I ever have a conversation with an imaginary person will that be more substantive for this forum?

 

[Tyler23]

I agree that some people adjust to change more readily than others. The people who have talked to me about iOS 7 are having issues that did not occur in iOS 6. They are speaking of specifics. Battery drain, apps not updating, crashes, no audible to notify of new messages etc.

I've been to Apple few times to play with the demos and familiarize myself with OS 7. On each visit a blue shirt approaches with the prepared script about people being change adverse. I offer no opinion on iOS 7 at Apple. It's the latest iOS and will be on the devices.

I did a consumer workshop at Apple. The presenter began with the people are change adverse scenario. I have not heard that in a consumer workshop before.

I visit Apple frequently. My rapport with staff is good. They go out of their way to accommodate me. The team at the store is wonderful. A few told me they deal with customers who are extremely unhappy with iOS 7.

I don't know the answer. I like your comment that in a year people will be using iOS 7 without a second thought. I hope it works that way. I also hope it doesn't take Apple a year to get people's devices functioning as well as they were prior to the update.

I understand that many people are using iOS 7 without issue. The people who are experiencing issues since the upgrade should be given the same respect as those who are fortunate enough to have a device working properly.

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If I ever have a conversation with an imaginary person will that be more substantive for this forum?

I would say one thing - what people need to realize is just how big of a change iOS 7 is. A lot of code was changed from previous versions of iOS for iOS 7. An unfortunate side effect of this is the bugs that are cropping up and effecting user performance. Unfortunately, there's not much that could be done with this without majorly delaying the release of iOS 7.

7.1 will be released likely around the new year - Apple is hard at work with optimizing iOS, and like every year, I expect many things to be ironed out and improved at that time.

 

[aristobrat]

IThe people who have talked to me about iOS 7 are having issues that did not occur in iOS 6. They are speaking of specifics. Battery drain, apps not updating, crashes, no audible to notify of new messages etc.

And people didn't talk to you about specific problems with previous iOS updates?

The only reason I ask is that from having skimmed through these forums about daily for the last several years, it seems like after every initial iOS release (iOS 3, iOS 4, ...) there are always people that have specific issues with the new iOS that did not occur with the previous iOS. Battery drain is almost always the #1 issue, and then the list goes from there.

 

[SusanK]

I would say one thing - what people need to realize is just how big of a change iOS 7 is. A lot of code was changed from previous versions of iOS for iOS 7. An unfortunate side effect of this is the bugs that are cropping up and effecting user performance. Unfortunately, there's not much that could be done with this without majorly delaying the release of iOS 7.

7.1 will be released likely around the new year - Apple is hard at work with optimizing iOS, and like every year, I expect many things to be ironed out and improved at that time.

I understand that conceptually. I don't think it is reasonable for Apple to use customers as laboratory animals while the company works out it's issues.

People who pay for a device expect it to function. They have no patience for excuses and should not be expected to. Apple expects a good method of payment at the point of sale. Customers expect a functioning device.

That's business.

 

[darngooddesign]

I understand that conceptually. I don't think it is reasonable for Apple to use customers as laboratory animals while the company works out it's issues.

People who pay for a device expect it to function. They have no patience for excuses and should not be expected to. Apple expects a good method of payment at the point of sale. Customers expect a functioning device.

That's business.

Isn't it amazing that prior to iOS7, Apple never had small software updates in-between the yearly releases.

 

[CB1234]

If I ever have a conversation with an imaginary person will that be more substantive for this forum?

Your statements do sound as if you are having conversations with imaginary people....

But jokes aside, compare 300 million iOS 7 users to the few disgruntled people that you know...

I respect people's complains about iOS 7, and wish more could be done to help them. Just cuz it works on my 4s well, doesn't mean I take perverse joy in people unhappy with theirs....

There are a lot of great MR members (MaxIT springs to mind), who try their best to help people having genuine problems with their phones and iOS. They too have issues with their phones, but yet give a balanced view instead of lot of histrionics prevailing. I would listen to these good people first before declaring Armageddon....

Saying things like, every most people hate iOS 7 and also could this be the first domino to fall, sounds a bit far fetched - atleast to me it does....

 

[SusanK]

And people didn't talk to you about specific problems with previous iOS updates?

The only reason I ask is that from having skimmed through these forums about daily for the last several years, it seems like after every initial iOS release (iOS 3, iOS 4, ...) there are always people that have specific issues with the new iOS that did not occur with the previous iOS. Battery drain is almost always the #1 issue, and then the list goes from there.

The first device I had was running iOS 4.x.x. Someone received it as a gift. Complained that it was no good. Handed it to me for unknown reasons. I played with for about 20 minutes, fell in love and went home to place an order. I still have that device and I love it.

That individual is basically tech adverse but wants the functionality. I expect him to complain about any tech product. He now has an android phone and complains about that. I don't consider his opinion on anything tech valid. It's his personality and it will not change.

No, there have been no complaints from people about previous iOS to me. People have asked me questions. There was an easy solution and I provided it. That's why they ask me now, I think.

The majority of questions have been about OS X or Windows. I am more familiar with OS X than Windows. I am more helpful with OS X.

The issues people show me in iOS 7 are either valid issues. They are problems I have not seen in previous iOS.

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I would listen to these good people first before declaring Armageddon....

Saying things like, every most people hate iOS 7 and also could this be the first domino to fall, sounds a bit far fetched - atleast to me it does....

Are you able to quote me in either of those statements? If so. please do.

 

[Shuri]

Have you ever seen such a backlash from consumers?
Everybody is disappointed and angered....but couldn't do anything because apple is not allowing them to revert back...which is like forcing you to stay on ios 7.

Everybody's disappointed and angered? Well speak for yourself because I love the look of iOS 7. And I'm pretty sure there are more people who like it or don't really care, than people like you, so why should apple revert back?
Those devices, which come with iOS 7 sell pretty well, so most of the people don't seem to have any problems.

Apple seemed to be perfect for you, now it isn't anymore; time to move on.
Everything comes to an end, you better deal with it.

 

[CB1234]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SusanK

Could this be the first domino to fall?

The essence of your first thread was that everyone you know, except one, had issues with and didn't like iOS 7, implying your belief that a lot of people don't like it...

 

[Tyler23]

I understand that conceptually. I don't think it is reasonable for Apple to use customers as laboratory animals while the company works out it's issues.

People who pay for a device expect it to function. They have no patience for excuses and should not be expected to. Apple expects a good method of payment at the point of sale. Customers expect a functioning device.

That's business.

There have always been bugs in iOS (and all software), which is why Apple releases steady bug-fixes.

As others have mentioned, many are not having any of these issues, myself included. I have experienced no battery drain, crashes, etc.

When any new version of iOS is released, there are always tons and tons of complaints about battery drain, lagging, etc.

The major complaints about iOS 7 are complaints that are voiced with every new version of iOS. This is nothing new.

 

[SusanK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SusanK

Could this be the first domino to fall?

The essence of your first thread was that everyone you know, except one, had issues with and didn't like iOS 7, implying your belief that a lot of people don't like it...

1. I did not start a thread. I posted to an existing thread.

2. I do not come in contact with the entire world population.

3. I have encountered one person who is pleased with iOS 7.

4. People i know in real life buy thing for functionality. If it doesn't function as expected and the maker does not resolve the issue they do not buy that make again.

 

[CB1234]

1. I did not start a thread. I posted to an existing thread.

2. I do not come in contact with the entire world population.

3. I have encountered one person who is pleased with iOS 7.

4. People i know in real life buy thing for functionality. If it doesn't function as expected and the maker does not resolve the issue they do not buy that make again.

1. Doesn't matter if you added to the original post. I was talking about your statement.

2. That was my point, your assumptions are based on few people and not entire population of iOS 7 users.

3. And you doubted the statement of the person you encountered who was pleased with iOS 7

4. No argument from me - people don't like it, they shouldn't buy it.

I am trying to have the last word here, but.....

 

[joejoejoe]

Isn't it amazing that prior to iOS7, Apple never had small software updates in-between the yearly releases.

sarcasm right?

 

[darngooddesign]

sarcasm right?

Yep. Every iOS release has had point updates to fix issues. Heck, it to two of those to get my first iPhone to display the battery at 100% full when fully charged.

 

[SusanK]

Isn't it amazing that prior to iOS7, Apple never had small software updates in-between the yearly releases.

Apple has already released updates to iOS 7. Unfortunately the people who have some issues don't seem to realize the problems are resolved. They still think apps not updating, phones crashing etc are problematic.

Such unreasonable people are unworthy of Apple.

Happy now?

 

[darngooddesign]

Apple has already released updates to iOS 7. Unfortunately the people who have some issues don't seem to realize the problems are resolved. They still think apps not updating, phones crashing etc are problematic.

Such unreasonable people are unworthy of Apple.

Happy now?

My happiness is unaffected by threads on MacRumors.

 

[aicul]

Nobody forced you to upgrade. They didn't tell you that you MUST accept the new system.

Two points;

1. I find distressful that you have the courage of saying no-one forced... Please tell me then why ios7 uploads to iPhone uses gb of space and cannot be deleted if user does not want to upgrade

2. In todays world where people "try" to purchase/convince themselves, why is there no return to previous ios button

Frankly ios7 is overkill for iphone4 so unless you tried, your comments are more argumentative than value add

I totally share thread starter comments, I have an iPhone 4 in ios7 and it is good for trash

 

[joejoejoe]

Two points;

1. I find distressful that you have the courage of saying no-one forced... Please tell me then why ios7 uploads to iPhone uses gb of space and cannot be deleted if user does not want to upgrade

2. In todays world where people "try" to purchase/convince themselves, why is there no return to previous ios button

Frankly ios7 is overkill for iphone4 so unless you tried, your comments are more argumentative than value add

I totally share thread starter comments, I have an iPhone 4 in ios7 and it is good for trash

sounds like it's time for you to upgrade

 

[SusanK]

My happiness is unaffected by threads on MacRumors.

A rational post. Thank you for that.

 

[darngooddesign]

A rational post. Thank you for that.

Cheers

 

[richardbb85]

wish i could go back to ios6, my
5s crash a few times almost everyday. dont really mind it but is getting annoying

 

[sracer]

People hate change. Not all, but many. The reason no one complained about iOS before was because it hardly changed at all from update to update.

Of course, with the first major update to the interface since it was released, people will be vocal in their displeasure because that's human nature. Something changes, they don't like it. They don't like it, they have to tell everyone.

In a year, no one will care, everyone will have moved on. It didn't remove functionality, it added it. As much as they like to think so, most people are no worse off now than they were with iOS 6 and before.

Maybe. And maybe iOS 7 is Apple's "Vista" moment. That's the thing about when giants fall... few know it until it happens. I own a variety of mobile devices. My iPad 4 running 6.1.3 will be the last iDevice I own. When I need to replace it, it will be for an Android or WinRT device. I will do it with my eyes wide open to the benefits and deficiencies of those platforms. I'm not alone.

Take heed Apple fans. blind allegiance results in being surprised by a fall from grace.

I want Apple to learn from their mistakes with iOS 7. I really do. In spite of its limitations, my iPad 4 is the best tablet I own. (but that's because it isn't running 7)

 

[CB1234]

Maybe. And maybe iOS 7 is Apple's "Vista" moment. That's the thing about when giants fall... few know it until it happens. I own a variety of mobile devices. My iPad 4 running 6.1.3 will be the last iDevice I own. When I need to replace it, it will be for an Android or WinRT device. I will do it with my eyes wide open to the benefits and deficiencies of those platforms. I'm not alone.

Take heed Apple fans. blind allegiance results in being surprised by a fall from grace.

I want Apple to learn from their mistakes with iOS 7. I really do. In spite of its limitations, my iPad 4 is the best tablet I own. (but that's because it isn't running 7)

If you feel you are not getting your worth from Apple products, then the best way to make Apple listen and improve is to vote with your 'money'....

A lot of ranting and raving on the MR forums, although is good for letting off steam, it's not going to change much.

I have been lucky, iOS 7 has worked seamlessly on all devices in my house (4, 4s, 5, iPod, iPad mini & iPad 2), so my $$$'s are firmly in Apple's pockets....

 

[bumblebritches5]

Dude, you're not starting a movement because you're literally the only one that gives a ****.