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no imac july 24th

iMcLovin said:
Nice! Keep'em coming...it's starting to be a lot of coincidences regarding end of July re-stock of the iMac. Either it means that they hold them back to install ML ( which seems rather strange) or a new model is coming - which I support ;) or just a logistic hiccup.
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I don't believe they would hold back just so they could have them ship with ML. My reasoning for this is because Apple is offering ML for free for 30 days after it's release to anyone who buys a Mac between June 11th and the release date of ML.
http://www.apple.com/osx/uptodate/

They are essentially taking the burdon of re-imaging current stock off of their plate and placing the responsibility on to the consumer... Very smart and it get's people more comfortable using the App Store, especially new comers to the Mac platform as many here have mentioned they are.
 
theSeb said:
No, they did not do that at all. The iMacs are exactly the same as they were when they launched last year May. There was some educational model released recently that is less powerful, if I recall correctly.
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You're absolutely right - when I went to Apple's support spec area, it was the last (first - most recent) entry so I looked at those specs not realizing that it was an educational model.

I took that information and combined it with Apple's "The new iMac features nearly twice the processing speed, advanced graphics, and ultrafast Thunderbolt I/O..." marketing hoopla and thought they had done a speedbump =(

Well damn, now it's even more depressing and even more needed for a revision to the line.
 
All the late info combined:
1) share holder call
2) ml release
3) iMac dry up in almost any place you look
4) big apple store like the 5th ave missing the main model
5) resellers can't order current model, or delayed to August.

Point to a very logical iMac release.
Or
A very unclear move from apple side.
 
Overg said:
All the late info combined:
1) share holder call
2) ml release
3) iMac dry up in almost any place you look
4) big apple store like the 5th ave missing the main model
5) resellers can't order current model, or delayed to August.

Point to a very logical iMac release.
Or
A very unclear move from apple side.
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I should point out that 5th avenue got stock. SoHo and Staten Island are currently short. But I think the fact that 5th avenue was allowed to get to zero is still telling. Various NJ stores have also gone to zero at different points.
 
Unfortunately all 20 "nearby" stores (80211 - Denver) are currently showing in stock for store pick up on the 27".
 
Overg said:
All the late info combined:
1) share holder call
2) ml release
3) iMac dry up in almost any place you look
4) big apple store like the 5th ave missing the main model
5) resellers can't order current model, or delayed to August.

Point to a very logical iMac release.
Or
A very unclear move from apple side.
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Should also point out that since a share holder call will always happen around this time and that Apple have never announced new hardware on a quarterly results call. Then your option 1) doesn't actually point to anything.
 
iMacFarlane said:
Right. Even Blizzard's famous, "It will be released when it is done" is far superior to the waiting costumer than Apple's famous, " . . . . . . ".
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Acknowledging that there is an "it" would be a welcome change of pace.

But, Blizzard sees a large drop-off in players in WoW when they announce a new xpac. The current content just becomes less interesting than the new, unreleased stuff.
 
monoskier said:
Unfortunately all 20 "nearby" stores (80211 - Denver) are currently showing in stock for store pick up on the 27".
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Same in Tampa, FL.

This will be my first iMac, I really don't want to wait until Oct or Nov for it. But I don't want to buy last year's model, either. Really hoping something is announced soon!
 
It will really drive me nuts if apple won't release the iMac in July, because that mean that they don't give a damn on the main product that put apple on earth as a computer company. It's similar to a case where coca cola will stop making coke and start making just sprite...

The iMac is the roots of apple the computer that saved their asses in the 90's
I hope they don't forget it.
 
Overg said:
It will really drive me nuts if apple won't release the iMac in July, because that mean that they don't give a damn on the main product that put apple on earth as a computer company. It's similar to a case where coca cola will stop making coke and start making just sprite...

The iMac is the roots of apple the computer that saved their asses in the 90's
I hope they don't forget it.
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same thing we said about the mac pro and we got "no soup for you... one year!!!"
 
as far i know. they havent soled alot of imac 2011 from april to this date. and it becues people want to see a update and apple knows that. so i dont see why they dont going to update. they know about that fans and newcomer want the last imac. so they are smart and going to releas with ML. i can promies we will see a imac with the releas of ML:D
 
xgman said:
same thing we said about the mac pro and we got "no soup for you... one year!!!"
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Not really Mac pro is different beast, suited for very small percentage of apple crowd. And never was a symbol of apple
iMac is the heart of apple.
I hope they won't neglect it.
 
Overg said:
It will really drive me nuts if apple won't release the iMac in July, because that mean that they don't give a damn on the main product that put apple on earth as a computer company.
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Or, it could mean that they DO give a damn, and they've got a special redesign planned for later in the year. Really, you shouldn't be so defeatist.
 
edry.hilario said:
no imacs or minis the 24th says 9to5mac. THIS IS SO EFFIN UPSETTING!!
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If Apple typically does Tuesday releases did a Wednesday really make sense anyway. The 31st or 7th really wouldn't be significantly longer and be on "normal" Tuesday sequencing. Alot of this is tweaked expectations feed by the earlier rumors that Apple was going to revamp the whole Mac line up at WWDC.

The first couple of days Apple releases Mountain Lion their support queues are likely going to be jammed with issues that will inevitably pop up. It actually would be better support wise if they waited a couple of days effort releasing new hardware.

This is like when Apple used to try to release a new version of iOS on the same day that a new iPhone came out. It usually leads to a mess for a day or so. Too much at the same time for no good reason what so ever. Update the installed base first ( in this case ML update ) and then when that settles down a bit update the hardware.

"This year, Mountain Lion isn’t being launched alongside hardware (last year was new Minis and Airs launched with Lion) ... "

Sometimes it takes Apple several iterations of not doing smooth rollouts to learn the lesson. Perhaps they are doing better job this time.
 
deconstruct60 said:
Sometimes it takes Apple several iterations of not doing smooth rollouts to learn the lesson. Perhaps they are doing better job this time.
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I like your rational thinking. But I don't recall Lion + Minis/Airs being a disaster last year.
 
forty2j said:
I like your rational thinking. But I don't recall Lion + Minis/Airs being a disaster last year.
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It wasn't. It went quite smoothly. Ample stock of base models appeared on location, and CTOs drop-shipped straight from Shenzhen. Point of fact, it was a lot less logistically troublesome than this year's rMBP launch, based on the ship date ranges people were seeing.
 
forty2j said:
I like your rational thinking. But I don't recall Lion + Minis/Airs being a disaster last year.
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That's one reason why Apple tends to learn slowly on these issues. The cock-up aspects fade with time. 10 Months later many users will forget.

Skip to the end of the Lion forums.

https://forums.macrumors.com/forums/152/&order=desc&page=143

If go back a page or two, there are "Slow download", "error creating recovery partition". The folks who hard incompatible AFP NAS boxes probably remember. Many folks who needed Active Directory connectivity had a serious bug all the way up until 10.7.2. Nevermind the "World is going to end there is no Rosetta" crowd.


It is not quite the disaster as when they crashed mobile-me out of the gate, but it isn't silky smooth either. I'm sure the support center's phone lines light up as users find numerous ways to shoot themselves in the foot getting this installed. It is better if the phone lines , bug queues , and Genius bars flush that stuff out before roll out a new box

Most of this is just normal major number upgrade level of issues. A fair amount is even known bugs. They are just bugs that impact a much larger group when released for general usage than when in the relatively minute beta environment Apple tests into.

Because the new boxes can also pop up issues of their own. (e.g., the Thunderbolt drivers for the then new TB Ethernet adapter screwed up some macs upon initial release. )

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Mike Valmike said:
It wasn't. .... Ample stock of base models appeared on location, and CTOs drop-shipped straight from Shenzhen. Point of fact, it was a lot less logistically troublesome than this year's rMBP launch, based on the ship date ranges people were seeing.
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Shipping boxes is totally outsourced at Apple. That isn't the issue. The issue is Apple being responsive in doing the services that they don't outsource.

It is also about how Apple's QA. There have been more than a few security update 1.1 , driver ABC update 1.1 , etc. where Apple ships.... substantive bugs pop up for a signficant number of users and Apple has to hustle out a new fix of a fix.
 
I'm as useless at reading tea leaves as it's possible to be, but if there were going to be new Macs coincident with ML (next week), surely something would have leaked from the supply chain by now?
 
Seamaster said:
I'm as useless at reading tea leaves as it's possible to be, but if there were going to be new Macs coincident with ML (next week), surely something would have leaked from the supply chain by now?
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Not necessarily. For iToy refreshes we see parts leaks and the like, but for Macs it is fairly often nothing but crickets and then BAM refresh.

We did see the Geekbench entry. Honestly that's already more than I expected. Two NYC stores got down to zero (if briefly) this week on iMacs, and I don't think that happened even in previous refreshes. Usually international stock gets tight but domestic stock remains all the way through the refresh. Looks like 7/25 is it, with an outside shot at 7/31 and if neither then see ya in 2013, as absurd as that kind of refresh interval is. (shrug)

We won't hear about it on the earnings call. It will be like last year. Earnings call and OS release with no mention of hardware, and then the next day new hardware right out of the blue. And if they only release a refreshed Mac Mini and no iMac... then it looks like I'll be rocking the Mini this time.
 
I just sacrificed an iPod shuffle to the Gods of Knowledge, and in the flames I failed to see evidence of an imminent iMac update.
 
Seamaster said:
I'm as useless at reading tea leaves as it's possible to be, but if there were going to be new Macs coincident with ML (next week), surely something would have leaked from the supply chain by now?
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Didn't Tim say they had tightened up security? Also it's hard to smuggle out a 27" iMac. If its as I suspect just a speed bump and USB 3 wouldn't they just look the same anyway? Seeing a picture of a Sandy Bridge processor won't prove anything about the release date.
 
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