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Would love to know the % of iPhone buyers that are geeks like us, reading tech sites, and know everything coming out, compared to the % of iPhone buyers that have no clue, they just want a new iPhone, regardless if the iPhone5 was coming next month, because they wouldn't even know that.

There is a difference in the % of geeks who read tech sites and know everything coming out. Part of such geeks only care about owning a latest phone, regardless of whether they actually need the newest features or not. These are very little.

The other part of such geeks are not afraid of owning 'an outdated phone', for as long as it does all they want it to do. Just like the rest of iPhone buyers who are not geeks and don't know about the forthcoming updates. They make a decision to buy the phone according to their needs, not according to how their phone will compare to the phone of their neighbor.
 
The white iPhone 4 will probably come out soon, he's probably right about that, but the iPhone 5 will come out in 2011. The smartphone market is so competitive and the iPhone 4 will be outdated and outclassed in a couple of months. Some phones are already better then the iPhone 4 now.
Apple is not a fool company. Many people will jump ship to other phones because the iPhone 4 will be outdated technology. The average production life of a smartphone is 9 months now. The iPhone 4 will be out for 9 months in March. There be an iPhone 5 in 2011. :apple:
 
For some reason, I believe the OP. It's a typical Apple thing to do. They'll announce the white iphone 4, and instead make a big deal about the newest iteration of iOS to smokescreen the fact there is no iPhone 5. They will make a big deal over the magical new notifications in iOS, and spend the majority of the talk lauding their record profits.

Oh, and one more thing. Cook will announce the improved facetime, and he will do so over 3G between an AT&T and Verizon white iPhones with Steve Jobs who wishes he could be there in person to make this revolutionary and landmark announcement.
Give this man a dollar, he nailed it.
 
The reason people refer to the next version of the iPhone as the iPhone 5, is because this will be the 5th iPhone that Apple releases (the Verizon iPhone is exactly the same as the AT&T iPhone, but with a different antenna). So its natural to assume the iPhone 5, since the fourth iPhone that Apple released was called.... wait for it... iPhone 4, and the third iPhone was... can you guess, iPhone 3GS (3, 4, 5). Some people have already begun to refer to the next iPhone in 2012, iPhone 6.

Also, unless you work for Apple, how can you argue your opinion as a fact?
You conveniently left out the 1st and second iPhone. What were those called again? You're confusing the OS with the model.
 
One thing I'm sure of, if there's no new iPhone announced this summer there will be meltdowns of epic proportions on here. I'm pretty shocked by the amount of people who are adamant a new model is coming this year and anyone suggesting otherwise is "wrong" without any real factual proof. It's comical. :rolleyes:
 
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Absolutely. The iPhone 3G WAS the iPhone 2.How do you think we got to #4 currently?

iPhone 1) Original iPhone
iPhone 2) iPhone 3G
iPhone 3) iPhone 3GS
iPhone 4) Correctly labeled as iPhone 4
iPhone 5) Probably called iPhone 4GS

Well it wasn't called 'iPhone 2' was it?

I think people need to make the distinction between the 'name' and the 'generation'. But hey that's just the way I see it.

The OP said 'no iPhone 5' not 'no 5th generation iPhone' so what does that actually mean? It can be either interpreted as there won't be any new model iPhone, or that there will be a new model of the iPhone 4, but not named iPhone 5.
 
Well it wasn't called 'iPhone 2' was it?

I think people need to make the distinction between the 'name' and the 'generation'. But hey that's just the way I see it.

The OP said 'no iPhone 5' not 'no 5th generation iPhone' so what does that actually mean? It can be either interpreted as there won't be any new model iPhone, or that there will be a new model of the iPhone 4, but not named iPhone 5.

No, he specifically said that there would be no new hardware, i.e. no 5th generation iPhone (whatever it would be called).

BTW I love how there are people saying that they will just release the white iPhone 4 with iOS 5 during the summer instead of a new model.

Do you honestly think that their product time line revolves around a manufacturing defect?

Apple will not through out all that R&D and factory expense for a one year cycle.

They did with the original iPhone...

Very few people seem to understand how big of a jump the 3GS was from the 3G. All they see is "it looked the same, so it must not have been a big update". They fail to see that 3GS actually has basically the same internals as the current iPhone 4, which means even though the 3GS to 4 changed dramatically externally, the "guts" are almost identical (that's why there's not much difference in speed between the 3GS and 4). Apple could add internals that are 4 times as powerful as the current iPhone 4 for the next generation, but if they kept the same (or very similar) external design, clueless people will say "the 5/4G/4GS/whatever they call the next gen is a minor update from the iPhone 4". All they know is what they "see" on the outside, even if the internals are twice as fast/powerful (like the 3G to 3GS was) :rolleyes:

The sad part is, the same people in this thread saying that there will be new new iPhone, "just improved hardware", are going to the be the ones come summer saying, "See, I told you there wasn't going to be a new iPhone!" :eek:
 
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So the world wont get a new iPhone 5 this year because one US carrier is just getting the iPhone 4? I think not.

The iPad just launched in South Korea, does this mean there will be no iPad 2 this year?
 
Well it wasn't called 'iPhone 2' was it?

I think people need to make the distinction between the 'name' and the 'generation'. But hey that's just the way I see it.

The OP said 'no iPhone 5' not 'no 5th generation iPhone' so what does that actually mean? It can be either interpreted as there won't be any new model iPhone, or that there will be a new model of the iPhone 4, but not named iPhone 5.

Doesn't matter what it was called, those are the correct ways to refer to the phones when speaking of versions, and the only reason the iPhone 4 is even called the iPhone 4. See?

No one said it would be called iPhone 5. It will, however, be the 5th iteration of the iPhone.
 
No he isn't. You are the one who is confused. The 2nd iteration of the iPhone was called the iPhone 3G. The 3rd was the 3GS. The fourth was the 4. Simple when you think about it.
Simple as mud. Read the wiki again.
 
I just want to emphasize that the OP stated that there won't be any "new" iPhone this year.
He's not even talking about an iPhone 5 or iPhone 4S (whatever you want to call it).
 
From a business standpoint, this makes perfect sense. A launch next summer of an IPhone 5 that works on both networks is a smart move. I am not sure what else the next gen of IPhone could do anyway from a functionality standpoint. A 4G IPhone 5 that works on both networks would be sweet.

Actually, it does not make any sense. Verizon is not a pot of gold here! China is more likely! Verizon wanted early because there are a drought for 4 years and a lot of people want it badly.

Most people don't care to have the latest version and most cannot. Most cannot because of the two year contract. There are millions who cannot upgrade to iPHone 5 because of contract. The thread starter just wanted to spur conversations.
 
I just want to emphasize that the OP stated that there won't be any "new" iPhone this year.
He's not even talking about an iPhone 5 or iPhone 4S (whatever you want to call it).

You could say it better by saying a whole new look like the recent phone. There will be upgrade in chip and other internals.
 
I work for a company that does a lot of work for Apple, not sure if anyone will believe me as there seems to be a lot of WUM's on here... But I'll tell you anyway.

I've been informed that there will be no hardware updates to the iPhone this year and the iPhone 5 will launch in the summer of 2012.

Apple want to do a universal launch for the next iPhone and due to the release of the Verizon iPhone, and they think the iPhone 4 is a strong product, they will wait until 2012.

The white iPhone 4 will come out this summer.

What do you mean "no hardware update"?? no new processor? no new storage? better batteries? Verizon is not the only major telcos on this planet. Thanks for stirring the hornet nest.
 
I find it hard to believe. Competition heats up quickly and Apple would be foolish not reposnd accordingly. From since AT&T lost exclusivity will be pulling all the stops and release of the Android phones to compete better with Verizon. For proof look no further than Moto Atrix iPhone 4 comfortably beating almost every category.
 
Simple as mud. Read the wiki again.

Don't need to read the Wiki. See my other post where I break down each version.

You know, when the Xbox 360 came out, I thought it was a stupid name. Clearly, it was the Xbox 2, but they called it the 360. Why? Well it was stated that it was called the 360 because the PlayStation 3 was coming out, and the marketing team though that if people saw Xbox 2 next to PlayStation 3, stupid consumers would see the 2 vs the 3 and pick the PS because its better/newer. At the time I though it was ludicrous, that no idiot would possible be that shallow and stupid. Now, after talking to you, I must say...well done Microsoft...well done.

The point is, just because the iPhone 3G has a 3 in it's title, does not mean it isn't the 2nd iteration of the iPhone. It is, my friend. It is.
 
There will be no HARDWARE changes this year, they are putting all their effort into the new IOS...

Is it that complicated to understand? Apple believe, that the hardware in the IP4 is good for another year and with the Verizon iPhone just coming out, they will no refresh this year, the white iPhone 4 will come out, and the new IOS will push the iPhone.

I really don’t know why you’re all having trouble with this? Did you think that Apple were going to change the iPhone for everyone accept Verizon? So have two different iPhone models? (3 if you include the 3GS) or did you think they were going to change that in June too?

7 options:

1) New iPhone 5 – just non-verizon - not going to happen, two iPhone models, phones out of sync
2) New iPhone 5 - Verizon + AT&T integrated version - not going to happen – Why do months of development on Verizon iP4 to only sell it for a couple of months?
3) New iPhone 5 - Two new models for Verizon and AT&T - not going to happen – Why do months of development on Verizon iP4 to only sell it for a couple of months?
4) Create a iP4 ‘S’ – For AT&T models - Not going to happen – Verizon version will be out of sync
5) Create a iP4 ‘S’ - Verizon + AT&T integrated version - not going to happen – Why do months of development on Verizon iP4 to only sell it for a couple of months?
6) Create a iP4 ‘S’ - Two new models for Verizon and AT&T - not going to happen – Why do months of development on Verizon iP4 to only sell it for a couple of months?
7) Keep models the same and bring out killer IOS upgrades, release white iPhone and bring out an integrated Verizon and AT&T iPhone 5 next year.

Hello, apple still sell iPhone 3gs!!! Verizon iPhone 4 will continue to sell till next year. 3gs will be discontinue this summer. It was not a major adjustment for apple to make Verizon iPhone 4. Plus, Apple would want to include Sprint and T-mobile this summer. Plus, there are trend of new phones coming out with duo-core! Also, apple would want to keep relations with developers. Developers would want more powerful phones to create and evolve better apps. Annual refresh is necessary for those that were on iPhone 3gs. iPhone 4 is great, but it would be last year model. People compare that and new android models that have duo-core and honeycomb.

It is more logic and business sense to update hardware every year to make more money and maintain margins. Apple cannot sell the phone at the same price because it depreciates. business 101!!
 
So...if iPhone 4S comes out this summer then we'll be looking for iPhone 6 next summer...

I don't think Apple cares that VZW customers just bought an iPhone and will be upset if there's a new launch. I just don't think there is really anything extremely major to warrant a full refresh, especially since 4G technologies aren't full ready or available yet.

However, I can see a 4S for performance improvements.
 
So...if iPhone 4S comes out this summer then we'll be looking for iPhone 6 next summer...

I don't think Apple cares that VZW customers just bought an iPhone and will be upset if there's a new launch. I just don't think there is really anything extremely major to warrant a full refresh, especially since 4G technologies aren't full ready or available yet.

However, I can see a 4S for performance improvements.

LTE might come this year, but most likely next year. However, like computers, latest new mobile chips have duo-core, duo-graphics. Plus, I suspect a bigger storage like 64 gig. Some suspect NFC.

fyi: 1st iphone was called: iPhone, 2nd one: iPhone 3g, 3rd one: iPhone 3gs, 4th one: iPhone 4.
5th: maybe: iPhone LTE or iPhone 5 (5th generation or iteration) or iPhone Duo.
 
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i don't understand how my iphone 4 can perform faster than it does now? its stupid fast?

the 3gs, yes i wanted improvements.
the 3g, of course i wanted speed improvements.
 
So I'm confused.....who's opinion do we base more credibility on? Some dick who pretends to work for Apple in Brighton, and hasn't posted on this thread since we started asking questions....

or

David Pogue, respected technologist and Apple devotee of the NY Times?
:D:D:D:D
The dick.
 
With a slew of phones coming out like the Atrix with 1gb of RAM and Dual-Core, I would be surprised if Apple skipped a hardware update this year. The iPhone 4 is a great phone, but will be very outdated by mid-summer, compared to some of the other phones out by then.

I think we will see the new the new A5 in the iPad 2, then that chip moving onto the iPhone 5. With a bump in RAM, camera, and hopefully storage.
 
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