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No New iPhone this year
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The Verizon launch will more than satisfy the shareholders. As soon as Apple announces that the iPhone 5 will not come out this summer, assuming the OP is correct, millions will buy the iPhone 4 with the new iOS.
There will definitely be an upgrade this summer. However, it WILL be focused on the IOS. Maybe a better camera, faster processor (that will most likely give the phone a speed bump but not make the Iphone 4 obsolete). I predict the same exact shell as the Iphone 4 with IOS fixes and some hardware upgrade (like camera, etc.). However, it will not have LTE or have any updates that will make the Iphone 4 look bad.
Why release the white Iphone 4 so late in the game if they were intending to make the Iphone 5 a major upgrade? It would make no sense.
I still dont get why Verizon did not wait until the white Iphone 4 was out so they could give its customers a choice between the black and white versions.
Why release the white Iphone 4 so late in the game if they were intending to make the Iphone 5 a major upgrade? It would make no sense.
I still dont get why Verizon did not wait until the white Iphone 4 was out so they could give its customers a choice between the black and white versions.
Pretty much.
Yep, most of the people on this thread who are taking the OP seriously. Gotta say, he's been an effective troll.
No, it's cause he's trolling and he is not saying he thinks, he is claiming that he has inside information (go read the first post where he says he works for a company that works closely with Apple and he has proof of it).
In which case, I'll say again, if he really had inside information he's being very stupid/generous to risk his job just to tell a whole bunch of random strangers that there will be no info. I highly doubt anyone who would have actual access to that kind of info (whether it be they work for Apple or work for a company that works with apple like OP claims) wouldn't have signed a confidentiality clause that would get them fired for actually telling this info to other people (nevermind posting it on a forum).
And honestly, I really don't see the motivation for some one to risk their job that way just to brag on a forum. Unless he really doesn't like his job or is a complete fool. Personally, I think he's just trolling (and hey, that's a much better opinion than thinking he actually would be foolish enough to risk his job just to brag on some forum to people he doesn't know).
Agreed...I think the best that has happened is the OP has moved from the Apple Store in Brighton...to 'Phones4u' in Brighton...and has been fed this ******** from his management team to make sure he doesn't start saying to consumers..i'd wait for iPhone 5...etc etc
The raping that Apple would get in the gadget press if they didn't realise an iPhone this year..would be insane....
Once again 'boony' we're all waiting for this 'mythical' proof you have. You've had many an opportunity to present it..yet it's not yet appeared in these pages.
The raping that Apple would get in the gadget press if they didn't realise an iPhone this year..would be insane....
Once again 'boony' we're all waiting for this 'mythical' proof you have. You've had many an opportunity to present it..yet it's not yet appeared in these pages.
I've been told by a source that correctly predicted the Verizon iPhone that there will not be an iPhone 5 this summer for Verizon. All I can say is that they were correct about the Verizon iPhone...no idea of they are correct about this...but I believe them.
Based on this, I think it's reasonable to believe that Apple would focus on a big OS release to carry them through for a bit longer until they have a unified LTE model.
Based on this, I think it's reasonable to believe that Apple would focus on a big OS release to carry them through for a bit longer until they have a unified LTE model.
nope, it will make Apple shareholders happy if the Verizon phone is released and then the 5 is released this summer. As others have said, 1 carrier is not going to dictate Apple's release schedule. Do you honestly think the entire iPhone dev team was put towards making the 4 compatible with Verizon's network? The Verizon iPhone is not a new phone, it's a new carrier. Loss of money, loss of faith, and loss of momentum are all reasons enough not to skip this summer's upgrade schedule, whether or not Verizon gets the upgrade remains to be seen, but Apple is releasing a new phone this year.
Why do you all hate buttons? The home button is intuitive, and does not need to be deleted.
Apple will not release a iPhone #s again. The 3GS was a one-time thing to get the numbering in sync with the generations. iPhone 4=4th iPhone. They had to do iPhone 3G to indicate the 3G network connectivity, but now that that's done, they'd like to stay in sync.
They won't do an iPhone 4G for the LTE model, either. There's already been an iPhone 4, and a lot of people already think that it's a 4G phone. Naming a future product iPhone 4G would just cause more confusion. From here on, it's best to just number the iPhone according to generation. iPhone 5 in 2011, iPhone 6 in 2012, and so on.
At some point Apple will likely drop the number entirely, like they do with iPods and Macs.
As for this year, I expect an iPhone 5 with iPhone 4S-style changes (and 32GB/64GB models). Both Verizon and AT&T will continue selling the iPhone 4 with 16GB of storage for $99, satisfying the "why do all that work only to sell it for a few months?" issues.
They won't do an iPhone 4G for the LTE model, either. There's already been an iPhone 4, and a lot of people already think that it's a 4G phone. Naming a future product iPhone 4G would just cause more confusion. From here on, it's best to just number the iPhone according to generation. iPhone 5 in 2011, iPhone 6 in 2012, and so on.
At some point Apple will likely drop the number entirely, like they do with iPods and Macs.
As for this year, I expect an iPhone 5 with iPhone 4S-style changes (and 32GB/64GB models). Both Verizon and AT&T will continue selling the iPhone 4 with 16GB of storage for $99, satisfying the "why do all that work only to sell it for a few months?" issues.
Wait... that is why you think the leaked casing is for the Chinese CDMA version?
Man, there were users predicting that Verizon would finally get the iPhone first thing in 2011 way back during the iPhone 4 announcement solely based upon the fact that AT&T let so many customers upgrade so early.
I'm interested to know the reasons why this person predicted the Verizon iPhone.
No, one has nothing to do with the other. I gave my reasons in an earlier post that you responded to.
This person didn't just guess like everyone else (including myself), they had a source confirming. I don't know their source and don't know how reliable it is. So again, this is just a guess on my part based on information from someone who was correct in the past...but may or may not be correct this time. I understand everyone's reluctance to believe it. I'd say I still lean toward AT&T getting an update...but I won't be surprised if Apple changes their pattern. Heck, nobody thought a Verizon iPhone would release off-cycle.
Not to mention that Apple is also in competition with other cell phone makers... who will be coming out with new smart phone models when the technology advancements permit. That... for no other reason is why Apple WILL come out with iPhone 5 this summer.
Actually, that's not a valid reason at all. Apple has been notorious for not really giving a darn what competitors are releasing.
Look at the mac release cycle. Every year an updated version of the mac product line comes out, and the haters point out how they can easily go to bobsdiscountcomputers.com and get a machine that has 2x the RAM, 4x the storage and 90124092318927x every other spec at half the price. They conclude that as a result the new macs are OMG SO FAR BEHIND, and the idea of buying one is laughable.
But it doesn't matter. People still buy Macs, and consistently buy more of them than they did in the previous quarters, making Apple a ton of money.
Likewise, every time a new iOS device has come out, the fanboy sites come clamoring with reviews about the next Android or Blackberry device that has 2x the screen size, 8 cores, 9 removable batteries and a telepathic interface, and is clearly 90209298438904890 times better than the iPhone X. The iPhone is soooooo far behind, they claim, and clearly Android will crush them.
But it doesn't matter. People still buy iPhones, and consistently best previous quarters, making Apple a ton of money.
If Apple really did care about keeping pace with vendors on the hardware front, they'd be releasing new models every 60 days. And each one would be incompatible with the previous version, and your current iPhone 4 would wouldn't run anything past iOS 4.2. Want 4.3? Gotta upgrade the hardware. Because that's what their competitors do.
However, there is a good reason to not beleive the OP. Apple may not care about ompaetitors much, but they are creatures of habit. Updates to product lines happen like clockwork, so much so that it's highly predictable on a 12-15 month basis. For the iPhone, significantly upgraded models have ALWAYS come in June of each year.
This isn't to say it's impossible that Apple will skip a year. But, they would have to be planning a HUGE iOS makeover for that to happen. One so big, they might even make some people pay a few bucks for it.
But again, that's highly unlikely.
While I don't believe the OP has any real connections, this could be true.
I was thinking the same thing, especially with the delay of the white iPhone. I'd say white iPhone sometime around April or May, or even into summer, and then no real hardware updates until 2012.
I was thinking the same thing, especially with the delay of the white iPhone. I'd say white iPhone sometime around April or May, or even into summer, and then no real hardware updates until 2012.
This actually makes a lot of sense. The naming convention has been a bit of a mess up until now. The only problem is, if they jump a whole number (to 5) people are going to be very disappointed if it's only software updates.
'spose it will only hurt for a little while.
You're wrong. Why would Apple stop competing by halting innovation on a new iPhone just because Verizon got the iPhone 4? The number of Verizon iPhone users would be minimal compared to the global number of GSM users. Apple needs to compete with the new 4G Android phones; a year is too long to wait. Just because an American carrier got a the same old iPhone 4 (with CDMA antennas) does not mean that Apple will sit on their asses for 2 years.
There won't be only software updates. There will be hardware differences, too. Higher capacity, a better display (improved color accuracy or something), an improved camera (7 megapixels, maybe?), the new A5 chip, and more RAM, all in the iPhone 4's shell (more or less, there may be some minor changes, like we see with the Verizon iPhone 4).
Like I say, the differences will be about the same as the differences between the 3G and 3GS, which was actually a fairly significant jump.
There are a lot of reasons to keep the hardware looking the same. For one, it makes a device instantly recognizable. It allows case manufacturers to feel confident that if they release a case a few weeks after a new design, they'll be able to sell that case for three years or more*. And, of course, it allows Apple to focus on only producing really great designs, rather than many mediocre ones.
*The obvious exception is the Verizon iPhone's repositioning of the vibrate switch. I suspect this was an absolutely necessary change--there's no reason to make it if it wasn't. Even with this, manufacturers can update their designs fairly easily. They don't have to go back to the drawing board.
i still strongly believe the iPhone 4S will release and the iPhone 3GS will become obsolete after all where else can i throw $799.99 on a smartphone
LOL. Okay.
1. Let's stop feeding the troll, people. Everyone knows there's gonna be a new iPhone, and it'll be a major update as well. Previously credible sources like Engadget and others say so. Therefore, we can end this topic right here.
Might the iPhone be pushed back a month? Possibly.
But..
2. scaredpoet, you have to realize that Apple is still a company in a competitive market.
Latest Nielsen Data shows that Android has grown greatly and is definitely a huge competitor to the iPhone. RIM is too.
Apple was always competitive, and they always cared about the market. They just take more time to execute the new updates so that they do it in an amazing way.
This is evident in the iOS 4.0 event. Steve Jobs himself said that "competitors had multitasking for a while, but i think we did it right".
Basic rule of competition, Apple will need to make a huge update to the next iPhone.
When the 3GS was released it was a completely different time, (the graph at 2009) and so we should totally rule out that the next iPhone hardware update will be a minor one.
It would be economically stupid for Apple not to release a big update for this summer's iPhone.
The iPhone 4 is a great product regardless, but is it so great that they can drag it on for 1 year? No. Technology moves fast, and i think we all know it, so does Apple.
Waiting any longer than the usual refresh period, Apple will inevitably lose the battle to Android.
Sure everyone will buy the iPhone. But when their buddy has a phone which can play 1080p videos, has a bigger screen, powerful notification system, widgets, amazing graphics, great battery, etc. I'm sure they'll jump ship.
Macs and iPhone are very different.
Like previously stated, the iPhone has become the flag-ship product of Apple, regardless of the iPad's and Mac's growth.
Apple can take it easy knowing that the Mac is growing enough to support itself, and doesn't need to worry about it. The ability to buy different versions, with customization makes it even easier for the company to just bump up the specs bit by bit. Knowing that the consumers will buy whichever product that satisfies them. What's the deciding factor? Choice.
The iPhone is a single device, and thus needs to have major upgrades throughout. Unless they plan on releasing an iPhone Pro, which is highly unlikely.
Moreover, the iPhone 4 isn't anywhere close to being a perfected product for Apple to take it easy.
My 2 cents.
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Pretty much. It would be very foolish for Apple to rely on the iPhone 4 as if they are still selling a dated phone when all these new ones are out (and it being a year old + will make it dated in the smartphone world) will get people considering other phones.
Which means they get into the Android/Windows 7 ecosystem, get used to that, and stay there rather than change. It's much harder to gain ground in the technology market when you start getting a reputation for a dated product and being "so last year". You want to keep momentum when you have it, not rest on your laurels and let it slip away. Once you get a "dated" reputation, people forget about you, focus on the new in thing that took over, and all the sudden you have an uphill battle.
And honestly, as some people have pointed out, it is a *global* market. Verizon is only one carrier in one country. Apple has a whole lot more customers to worry about than a small subset that might get a little upset that there is a new phone out already (they'll most likely get over it except for a few who are not going to be worth letting yourself be seen as dated just to save those few's business).