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Nokia Lumia 2520 Web Ad Pokes Fun at the iPad as 'The Wrong Tablet'

neverhadanewton said:
One actual useful thing it has over iPad is that it supports flash natively...
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You serious? iDevices not supporting Flash is a plus. Whenever my browser plays up, be it Safari on my Mac or Firefox on Windows, 9 times out of 10 it's the *%^$ing Flash plug-in. The sooner Flash dies a (painful) death the better.
 
I like bananas said:
So this ad was about the fact that Nokia's tablet comes with a keyboard, while Apple's don't.

Okay.
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The way I heard it, the (you can additionally purchase a) keyboard wasn't available. Don't know if that's still the case. You can get an awful lot of iPad keyboard for $150

MS continue to be the very definition of clueless. Anyone remember, "If you think iPhone is great, wait until you see Windows Phone…"

No relation to reality - it's an ad!

From MS' point of view, an ad tells you whatever-they-think-it-will-take to get you to buy their product instead of somebody else's. And that's all. The product doesn't have to live up to any promises made.

That's the great American way. Advertise junk as fantastic. Get people to buy lots of junk. That's what makes the US market the most desirable market in the world. Americans will buy ANYTHING. And MS will sell you ANYTHING. Nothing more complicated, however insulting you might think that is. That's how it is.
 
giantfan1224 said:
So in other words, it's just another attempted Microsoft bashing Apple ad. *Yawn*
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markintosh said:
With all the money Microsoft spends on advertising they couldn't hire a guy without a '80s porn star 'stash?
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Nokia isn't owned by Microsoft yet. This has nothing to do with MS.


bushido said:
people who need a keyboard will not use a tablet. MS is never going to get this
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Then why there are 3rd party keyboards for the iPad?

Jspring86 said:
100% agree. I use my laptop and tablet for different things. One of these things needs a keyboard, the other one doesn't. :apple:
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The point of these products is that they are an alternative to a laptop. So someone can buy one device instead of two... Use one operating system instead of two... one set of App purchases instead of two.
 
Nameci said:
And if you need a keyboard, why not buy the MBA instead? or any ultrabook for that matter?

An external keyboard, imho, defeats the purpose of the iPad being a tablet. Its a tablet, it doesn't need a physical keyboard. If it needs a physical keyboard, it is not a tablet anymore, it should be called a laptop already.

Would we like our smartphones to include a physical keyboard as well?
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My thoughts exactly. If you need (as opposed to prefer) a physical keyboard, then a tablet is the wrong device for your needs. A tablet is primarily a content consumption/viewing device, not for creating large projects.
 
Quu said:
This advert makes no sense.
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Looks like they shot the ad straight and added the monologue last-minute when they realized the actors sounded as fake as in the worst of the worst Microsoft ads.
 
SeattleMoose said:
Would never buy Android/Google ANYTHING out of principle. :p

But I gotta say, the openness of the Windows based tablets over the claustrophobic, controlled, funnel everything thru iTunes, no I/O ports iPad….I find appealing.

This is why competition is good….c'mon Apple….OPEN IT UP!!!
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No I/O ports on iPad?

1) Wifi
2) Bluetooth
3) Several dongles to add ports via the dock connector.
4) Specialized adapters using the Mic jack for input (Square, etc.)

The iPad is definitely not as closed as you'd like to think. I suspect you just want cheaper, that's your main complaint, not openness. Am'i'right?

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parish said:
My thoughts exactly. If you need (as opposed to prefer) a physical keyboard, then a tablet is the wrong device for your needs. A tablet is primarily a content consumption/viewing device, not for creating large projects.
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Mainly, but not solely. But Apple agrees with you, which is why they make the amazing MacBook Air as an ultra-portable full-featured laptop.
 
Hmm, so, the ad shows the guy using the tablet holding it in on hand and controlling the touch screen with the other. The girl has to put her Nokia on the table to use it which makes using the touchscreen awkward and uncomfortable - try pretending your laptop has a touchscreen for a few minutes and see how it feels. So, the Nokia/Surface design isn't that good.

I've never handled a Nokia or Surface, but I bet the keyboard isn't rigidly attached to the screen so it would be difficult to use other than on a table - unlike a laptop.
 
That spot was so irritating I wanted to claw my skin off. What a horrible commercial!!!!!!
And what does that Nokia tablet have that trumps iPad? Not a goddamn thing.
MS can shove it.
 
The Lumia 2520... just rolls off the tongue.

Taking both products and companies out of the picture and judging strictly on marketing, that has to be the worst commercial I've seen in a long time.
 
How many cute blondes do you know who could tell you the model number of their tablet?! "A Nokia Lumia 2520, you say?" Yeah, riiiiiiight.
 
eta said:
HA! I love how Microsoft, et. al think that they have Apple by the balls with this keyboard thing.
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I'm not the one to normally point out things like this, but it's "et al." (et alii - and others). An easy way to remember is that "et" in French and Latin both mean "and".

/digression
 
avanpelt said:
How many cute blondes do you know who could tell you the model number of their tablet?! "A Nokia Lumia 2520, you say?" Yeah, riiiiiiight.
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If it's anything like with cars, she'd say "it's a red one" - not that I'm stereotyping you understand...well...maybe just a little bit :p
 
avanpelt said:
How many cute blondes do you know who could tell you the model number of their tablet?! "A Nokia Lumia 2520, you say?" Yeah, riiiiiiight.
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parish said:
If it's anything like with cars, she'd say "it's a red one" - not that I'm stereotyping you understand...well...maybe just a little bit :p
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My wife could. It's not that tough, anyone who graduated kindergarden could. I wonder how people know the difference between all those BMW's... they have all those confusing numbers :rolleyes:

I expect fanboyism, but you guys are behaving more like children.
 
ricosuave said:
Flash? You've got to be kidding me.
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You shouldn't have to view the mobile version of a website on a tablet. You should just be able to view the desktop version. Even if it uses flash.

There are still millions of websites that use flash - including millions of games that are free to play online.

If I had a tablet that could handle flash, I wouldn't need to purchase most of the games I like to play. That's a big incentive for me to consider a product like this (If I were in the market for a tablet).
 
swingerofbirch said:
This makes sense strategically. I've always said that text input is the missing link on the iPad. Apple never figured that out. On the other hand, I'm not sure that Nokia or Microsoft have either.

The original Mac had the mouse, which changed the game. The iPod had the scrollwheel, which made it tenable to navigate thousands of songs. The iPhone had the touch screen, and wasn't expected to be used for a lot of text-input so an on-screen keyboard sufficed (although I think Android may have surpassed Apple with this in the ability to switch out keyboards).

If the iPad is meant to be a laptop replacement, it fails with regard to text-input. There was no big gain in input like each of Apple's previous devices had (mouse, scrollwheel, touch screen).

If I were Apple, this is something I would focus on. There might be a solution. Not that I know what it is. But Apple has a lot of resources to think about these things. Microsoft at least did something, with the keyboard case. If Apple sold a first-party equivalent, I think it would be quite popular.
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Luckily - its not!
 
MattG said:
Runs Windows 8...enough said.
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Windows 8 RT to be exact :)

It actually wouldn't be a bad tablet if it ran a full version of Windows.

But since it's running the "mobile" version of Windows... I'd rather have an iPad to use all of its great software.
 
lordofthereef said:
What difference does it honestly make where they got the jay board cover idea? Microsoft does make the best keyboard cover in the market. If Nokia's is similar, it will also be better than anything I've seen on iPad. Is it $150 better? I personally don't think so.

And how was iPad insinuated at all? You realize there are literally hundreds of tablets on the market? All with terrible battery life? Low resolutions? No keyboard options whatsoever? The only reason Anyone is saying anything here is because the wonderful writers here at MR decided to give this article a title to get readers fired up. They obviously succeeded.

All that said, I wouldn't look at this tablet over an iPad. Te only tablet that MIGHT replace an iPad for me would be a surface pro 2, since it's a real contender for laptop replacement. But for those who aren't looking specifically at an iPad for thee next tablet I don't see why this couldn't be at the top of the list.
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I agree they arent taking a direct stab at the ipad, and I dont think thats an ipad hes holding, but the "pencil thin" etc is certainly insinuating it.

I think people here do get fired up too easily, but in this case I think its basically justified. People dont like being fed cr*p by marketers and i think its that (and the particularly cheesy and amature style of this advertisement) which has people ready to fight here, rather than talking down the ipad.
 
Rufuss Sewell said:
Why do all these tablet commercials try to make it look like you can't use a keyboard with an iPad?

That's really all they've got? A blatent lie?
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Simple. Because Apple don't make one.

Once can always find a 3rd party product to fill a void left by the manufacturer.

But its a valid point to make out that officially there is no keyboard make for the iPad. The fact you get hunt one down elsewhere is not the point.
 
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