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Nokia Lumia 2520 Web Ad Pokes Fun at the iPad as 'The Wrong Tablet'

OhHaiThere said:
In the office environment, if you're on the company network, you have a keyboard designed for the device, full IE and a full office suite w/Outlook. If you're a business person, Windows tablets are pretty convincing.

I don't see this thing competing with tablets in the consumer space, despite the terrible ad. The iPads and Android tablets have the consumer market pretty cornered IMO. As I said previously, there's nothing "fun" about Windows RT and it relies more on having an internet connection than apps.
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Sounds like your talking about a Chrome book, lol.

I have an iPad and a surface Rt. I like both. The 4:3 screen on the iPad is better for note taking and portrait use. The Surface is great for using as a tablet or laptop. Is more compatible with all the office apps that I use at work.

If the iPad had a mouse or track pad and was able to run Microsoft office it would be a killer tablet.

Until then I will continue to bring both to work, neither is perfect. I can only dream about the day when one of these companies will listen and get it right.
 
wingsabre said:
It's unapologetically British, just like the iPhone 5C is unapologetically plastic. In other words, you either have to be a pretentious person interested in tacky products, or a Brit to get it.
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I am a Brit and its still crap. The only funny thing about it is that apparently Microsoft/Nokia think people just buy tablets to be cool.

The cringeworthy bit being the whole " so that's a nokia blah blah blah... Did I buy the wrong tablet ? " .... yes he did as he is asking stupid questions.

Part of owning something is the experience that having a recognised brand gives. If you feel good about owning a product you will generally be happier when using it and forgive niggles in its operation. But when you say its a Nokia blah blah blah and people look at you like I have no idea what that is then you feel like you have the wrong product, when your gran asks is that one of them iPads and you sayy no and her response is shame ... Your like ... Yea =(.

That is not a tablet lol the way she was holding it the thing looked like a massive netbook ans who remembers those as Tim Cook would say. Im not even sure they used a real iPad in that ad, it didntlookright for the moment when he wasnt hodin it or it flew off camera.
 
What is the deal with these nonsense Windows tablets making like the iPad not coming with a "keyboard" is some sort of huge obstacle? All of those ads bragging about the Surface's "keyboard" failed to mention that it would set you back an extra $100.

And what about that "keyboard?" It's a soft cover with keys, which may or may not feel like a keyboard to people used to using real keyboards with mechanical keys. In other words, everybody.

If you need a keyboard that badly, find any number of third-party iPad keyboards. Or buy the Apple wireless keyboard. Or maybe you need a notebook, not a tablet. Jack of all trades, master of none.
 
peterdevries said:
It's a subpar keyboard in the sense that it is smaller than a normal laptop one, with limited key travel. I have tried several of the keyboards associated with the windows 8 tablet platform and haven't encountered a satisfying one. I similarly don't like the physical keyboards for the iPad for that matter.

Have you ever tried using a Windows 8 tablet in the office app or desktop environment? I did and it sucks.

Lastly the majority of iPad users don't use keyboards. I have some colleagues that do, but most don't. I use iWorks extensively and it is perfectly engineered to work without a keyboard.
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I've used onscreen keyboards on the Surface, Nexus 10 and iPad. I absolutely hate them in that form factor. Even punching in a URL or writing an email... I'd rather get on may laptop and do it. Too used to Swype (and voice recognition) on my phone and being able to do everything with one hand OR typing with a real keyboard on a laptop.

One other benefit of having a physical keyboard is that you still have all the real-estate on your screen to see the content if dealing with documents or emails for example.

We all have our preferences and that's the whole point. I may change my mind once I try Dryft though...
 
Hey guys, wanna know what has a keyboard?

A LAPTOP.

I hate these other companies trying to bash Apple when they themselves are doing a horrible job.
 
OhHaiThere said:
I've used onscreen keyboards on the Surface, Nexus 10 and iPad. I absolutely hate them in that form factor. Even punching in a URL or writing an email... I'd rather get on may laptop and do it. Too used to Swype (and voice recognition) on my phone and being able to do everything with one hand OR typing with a real keyboard on a laptop.

One other benefit of having a physical keyboard is that you still have all the real-estate on your screen to see the content if dealing with documents or emails for example.

We all have our preferences and that's the whole point. I may change my mind once I try Dryft though...
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Dryft looks interesting. Thanks for the link.
 
Funny

but just in case somebody forgot to mention - the iPad was never meant to replace a laptop computer. Tablets can't compete with them, in terms of performance, storage and connectivity. Even if an attached keyboard makes them look like one...
 
AppleScruff1 said:
Dryft looks interesting. Thanks for the link.
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You're welcome

Maxipeg said:
but just in case somebody forgot to mention - the iPad was never meant to replace a laptop computer. Tablets can't compete with them, in terms of performance, storage and connectivity. Even if an attached keyboard makes them look like one...
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Aren't computer sales suffering as a direct result of the fact that tablets can now do so much that casual users used to need a computer for? Case in point, people in this thread mentioned using iPads at work for taking notes - beats lugging a laptop around, even an ultrabook, since the keyboard isn't needed and it can serve dual purposes (and cheaper).
 
Michael CM1 said:
What is the deal with these nonsense Windows tablets making like the iPad not coming with a "keyboard" is some sort of huge obstacle? All of those ads bragging about the Surface's "keyboard" failed to mention that it would set you back an extra $100.

And what about that "keyboard?" It's a soft cover with keys, which may or may not feel like a keyboard to people used to using real keyboards with mechanical keys. In other words, everybody.

If you need a keyboard that badly, find any number of third-party iPad keyboards. Or buy the Apple wireless keyboard. Or maybe you need a notebook, not a tablet. Jack of all trades, master of none.
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And a smartcover will cost you $64. A third party keyboard will cost you about the same as the Surface typepad. If Apple made a keyboard for the iPad, I'm fairly sure people would buy that by default over third party keyboards. The reason Apple didn't do it is because they designed their tablet as a consumer device, and not a productivity device. No one's really going to write a dissertation on an iPad. Tablets for the most part are about consumption, and not creation. Microsoft/Nokia is trying to make their device be a productivity device, but they're trying to be too cute by a half. Realistically these Windows 8 tablets are designed for people who need a laptop 80% of the time, and need a tablet 20% of the time. Either way, people will still have to spend more money to upgrade the usability of the device, no matter if its iPad or Nokia or Surface or Nexus. I get the whole Jack of all trades, master of none cliche, but from an evolutionary perspective, if you can't adapt, you go extinct. Look at OSX, it's been more and more like iOS over the past few years, and iOS has gained features that are in OSX to improve productivity. Eventually Apple will have a unified UI.
 
Wait a minute. When ipad runs out of battery and the girls next table say hi to him. Why didnt he pull the garbage tank out of the bag ?

I guess you would be too emberesed or what ? So you can be ashamed of this garbage.
 
Nokia is Microsoft now and they need to shut up. All they do is poke fun at Apple and Google (scroogled) on TV. Reminds me of the old Mac vs PC add where the PC just keeps trowing money at marketing instead of innovation.
 
Why don't they advertise the real benefits?
Like that the Nokia will actually look better
the more you drop it.
 
Glad I got the Mini Retina! Nobody poking fun at it! No competition or very few! LOL!
 
HarryWild said:
Glad I got the Mini Retina! Nobody poking fun at it! No competition or very few! LOL!
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Actually competition is quite fierce in smaller tablet. More so than 10" one.
Nexus 7, Galaxy Tab 8 and Note 8, Kindle Fire HDX, LG G Pad.

Some of them also come with higher pixel density and lower price.
 
Rufuss Sewell said:
Why do all these tablet commercials try to make it look like you can't use a keyboard with an iPad?

That's really all they've got? A blatent lie?
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Yeah it's weird but it's the only option for them to make a point. Acknowledging keyboards ARE available would dismiss their point entirely.

Nokia: "Our tablet comes with a keyboard, iPad does not!"
Customer: "But I can buy one for the iPad, right?"
Nokia: "I suppose so, but nobody does."
Customer: "So it's possible, but nobody uses it, so why would people use a keyboard on your tablet and not on the iPad?"
Nokia: "... because Office!111"

So their argument comes down entirely to the availability of the Office suite, which is nice but not much more than nice.

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iSayuSay said:
Actually competition is quite fierce in smaller tablet. More so than 10" one.
Nexus 7, Galaxy Tab 8 and Note 8, Kindle Fire HDX, LG G Pad.

Some of them also come with higher pixel density and lower price.
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And we all know: there is nothing more important than pixel density and lower price!

The advantages of a good usable ecosystem which makes the iPad a real tablet instead of an enlarged phone all fade away when you consider price and pixel density.
 
Maxipeg said:
but just in case somebody forgot to mention - the iPad was never meant to replace a laptop computer. Tablets can't compete with them, in terms of performance, storage and connectivity. Even if an attached keyboard makes them look like one...
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The Surface 2 can do a lot of things that laptops can do.
If you take a look at this Surface 2 user video, you'd be surprised how powerful it is. I always thought it was junk and would only consider the Pro, but after actually seeing what it can do I was pleasantly surprised.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG1b0yBJHLM

It can do much more than an iPad , if you need it to.
 
OhHaiThere said:
In the office environment, if you're on the company network, you have a keyboard designed for the device, full IE and a full office suite w/Outlook. If you're a business person, Windows tablets are pretty convincing.
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On the other hand, from an iPad you can access all your enterprise apps, no matter where you are. Plus, you have the tools to deploy your own native apps very easily, with millions of developers available who know how to write apps for the iPad. You know, developers, developers, developers, as Ballmer used to say :)
 
OhHaiThere said:
I've used onscreen keyboards on the Surface, Nexus 10 and iPad. I absolutely hate them in that form factor. Even punching in a URL or writing an email... I'd rather get on may laptop and do it. Too used to Swype (and voice recognition) on my phone and being able to do everything with one hand OR typing with a real keyboard on a laptop.
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OhHaiThere said:
One other benefit of having a physical keyboard is that you still have all the real-estate on your screen to see the content if dealing with documents or emails for example.
We all have our preferences and that's the whole point. I may change my mind once I try Dryft though...
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I understand and agree with you. The touchscreen keyboard is less suited for input of much text or spreadsheet work. I only write short emails and have most url’s as favorites in Safari for my iPad. For anything more elaborate I use my laptop.

The point of my comment was exactly this. The iPad with iOS is not trying to be OS X, because that would not work. Apple is only now, with the new iWorks, moving towards better productivity, taking into account the way people interact with onscreen keyboards. I think the new iWorks on iPad works better than Office on the Surface in that regard. Still it is not a viable alternative to desktop or laptop hard work, but I don’t think Apple is trying to force anyone to use it in that way.

I think Microsoft is trying to be everything at once: a good tablet for media consumption, internet, games etc. and also a full blown office machine. There is nothing inherently wrong with that if you engineer the software in such a way that it enables the efficient and effective use of the touchscreen. But to use office on a Windows 8 tablet you need a hardware setup that mimics a laptop (touchscreen, stand and a physical keyboard). I’m wondering what the point is of getting a tablet in that situation. There are better alternatives such as the Lenovo Yoga, with less compromises in terms of keyboard quality.
 
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