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Nokia Unveils First 'Lumia' Phones Based on Windows Phone 7.5
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I see. That is different from how it came across at first, yes. My guess is that much of the vitriol is because of the ridiculous comments by the serious Apple fans here (specifically thinking of the "black and white? how original" comment as the perfect example of this), which then devolves the entire discussion into bickering.
I'd also like to stress I'm not anti-Apple. I nearly purchased a 13" MBP as my last laptop, but couldn't get over the 1280x800 resolution, so I grabbed a comparable PC laptop with 1600x900 and am using that quite happily. Every purchase is a case-by-case basis.
Smooth as silk.
The UI was never a complaint for me. I love it.
It was the hardware. I had the Focus when it came out and I loved the OS, but wasn't too happy with the phone itself.
I still have a few months on my current contract, which should run out about the time these hit the US.
Hm, yeah ... I should think that those on the Android / iOS front will indeed be paying attention to this.
So based on this logic we could say that Windows 7 is far a way better than Mac OS X because of the facts and realities exist in the market. Not to mention that Windows 7 massive sales are light years ahead of Mac OS X.
The phone is fractionally bigger then the iPhone 4S, it is a bit thicker but you get a 3.7" screen and I think good border size to prevent accidental screen presses. It certainly looks much better then the Focus!
Actually, because [the screen] is not up to Droid RAZR or Galaxy Nexus. Smaller size, lower resolution, lower contrast. I'd lump it on a tier with the 4S (of which the ONLY thing it has going for it, in comparison, is the resolution) of which I prefer the Lumia.
I think the phone's hardware looks great, but honestly, how can it be expected to compete with other "flagship" handsets that simply have better features all around?
I like the 800 design, even though it does look like an over-sized iPod. No big deal, it still rolls with me. Nice to see something different for once instead of android models ad nauseam.
http://www.technewsworld.com/story/...hone-Market-but-Steers-Clear-of-US-73602.html
In a way, perhaps it is smart for Nokia catering Europe and Asia first while most Americans will just assume they are a relic like RIM that make cheap-looking phones. If Nokia wants to maintain its high volume sales, Asia is the continent to cater to. About 60% of the world's population resides in that continent. Africa is #2 at 15% and it is the fastest developing continent. Europe is at 11%. North America only makes up like 5% of the world population. Might as well for Nokia to cater to 95% of the world population.
Whatever case might be, Microsoft's WP platform will be the fastest growing of 2012. Make no mistake of Nokia's global impact. The Finnish company still sold over 90M phones in the last quarter, are still #2 in PROFIT margins behind Apple at about 20%, and this was supposed to be a down year for them as they fell to 3rd for smartphones and the marketshare has been shrinking fast when it was up to 40% like 4-5 years ago. They are not in bad shape as a company like RIM. Nokia will always be like McDonald's is in the fast food industry and Wal-Mart is in the retail industry. King of cheap, BASIC phones.
"We are better than you. We make better stuff."
"You don't get it, Steve. That doesn't matter."
Some companies can treat it like art. Some just treat it like a business. Different meanings between being the best vs being the most popular.
In a way, perhaps it is smart for Nokia catering Europe and Asia first while most Americans will just assume they are a relic like RIM that make cheap-looking phones. If Nokia wants to maintain its high volume sales, Asia is the continent to cater to. About 60% of the world's population resides in that continent. Africa is #2 at 15% and it is the fastest developing continent. Europe is at 11%. North America only makes up like 5% of the world population. Might as well for Nokia to cater to 95% of the world population.
Whatever case might be, Microsoft's WP platform will be the fastest growing of 2012. Make no mistake of Nokia's global impact. The Finnish company still sold over 90M phones in the last quarter, are still #2 in PROFIT margins behind Apple at about 20%, and this was supposed to be a down year for them as they fell to 3rd for smartphones and the marketshare has been shrinking fast when it was up to 40% like 4-5 years ago. They are not in bad shape as a company like RIM. Nokia will always be like McDonald's is in the fast food industry and Wal-Mart is in the retail industry. King of cheap, BASIC phones.
"We are better than you. We make better stuff."
"You don't get it, Steve. That doesn't matter."
Some companies can treat it like art. Some just treat it like a business. Different meanings between being the best vs being the most popular.
Look Samsung, you don't have to copy the iPhone. There are options.
Try to be an original. Good boy
I looked at them and thought we were going to have another round of copy cat accusations. The 710 looks like the 3GS as much as Samsung looks like other iproducts...
*sigh* Which is it? Copying or not? (I'm standing by copying for superfical values.)
its an 8xx device, and as such, its really not intended too. my guess, 9xx will be released same time as MSFT announcement of Chassi 3.
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Funny thing. We see people pulling up magnifications and distortions of the nano, calling foul. However, when people did the same, highlighting the extreme resemblance between the tab (and thus the iPad), and the now famous 2006 photo-frame, everyone said "thats not a tablet".
Hardly surprising behavior, but quite funny when you think about it.
p.s. the only thing even remotely close to the 3gs about the 710 is the rounded back.
Its a nice video but I cannot help but stare at the presenters right breast throughout the entire video so I missed most of what she was saying
Sure, if you don't bother analyzing why the numbers are what they are. Again, the numbers in and of themselves are just percentages. Until you look behind them. You'll see *why* Android has such a high market share. You'll see *why*, despite having a lower share, Macs are considered the Gold Standard of the industry and lead all indicators that matter. And so on.
"Logic" doesn't begin and end with a random number on someone's quarterly report. Unless you analyze the why and the how you'll never understand their meaning.
WP7 doesn't have a low share for the same reasons the Mac does. Both have low share but the reasons separating both are like night and day.
By the same token, MS' high market share is not necessarily an indication of quality or conscious choice on the part of consumers. Nor is OS X's lower share necessarily an indication of low quality or low consumer satisfaction.
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At least Nokia is innovating, the designs from Samsung and to a lesser extent LG, Motorola, HTC, etc have gotten a bit stale in my view(big, dark, 4"+, Android) Nokia at least knows how to influence design in a new direction, like Apple. I'll credit Nokia there(but I do wish they stuck with a non-Windows OS, I tried to like it, but it just doesn't interact with non-MS services well)
Oh well, I'll keep an eye on their S40 devices and anything with MeeGo on it, and outside of that I can limit myself to choices from Apple and Android devices(Nexus devices are impressive and do a good job of innovating at the least on the software side)
Oh well, I'll keep an eye on their S40 devices and anything with MeeGo on it, and outside of that I can limit myself to choices from Apple and Android devices(Nexus devices are impressive and do a good job of innovating at the least on the software side)
If you want to hate, try harder.
WP7.5 doesn't BSOD.
And I've had a couple of BSODs on Windows 7 but they were caused by crappy NVIDIA drivers, not Microsoft.
I simply lol at people saying it's an oversized iPod nano, the world doesn't revolve around Apple. Nokia knows how to make phone hardware.
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Being different for the sake of being different isn't a sound strategy, either.
Do these differences Nokia implemented actually merit their inclusion? Are they something that Nokia is confident will pull in consumers? Nokia really needs to make an effort to turn heads. But they can't be doing things out of desperation because they have no idea where to turn.
In other words, do you think that a Nokia - having experienced little more than failure and embarrassment over the last few years, their back against a wall in a do-or-die position, having adopted an OS that has gained no traction to date - can be trusted to act sensibly and with confidence?
If they can't they wouldn't be alone. Just look at what RIM's up to these days.
If you want to hate, try harder.
WP7.5 doesn't BSOD.
So what does an OS crash look like?
I got news for you - Apple (and Jobs when he was alive) didn't want you thinking differently. That's marketing. He wanted you thinking Apple. Further - he want you (and everyone in the world) to think like him. And when the masses did - he was happy. And when the masses didn't - he was very very upset (i.e. the iPad announcement for one).
So you can lay off the marketing rhetoric. It's all over the Apple website - you can leave it there