Windows Phone 7? I doubt it crashes often and if it crashes, it does not display a bluescreen.
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Nokia Unveils First 'Lumia' Phones Based on Windows Phone 7.5
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Spinning ball equivalent would the the hourglass, non of these are shown if the kernel crashes, you should know that.
It's a competitor to the iPhone. It's also news that a lot of us seem to care about (as per the tagline of the site). You don't have to read it.
Fixed that for you. People have different needs and wants and preferences.
If you and all the others in this forum don't understand why a phone like this is relevant to the iPhone and how it is important then perhaps you shouldn't open your mouth until you do a little research on the topic.
It is important and no matter how proud you are of having an iPhone, it still is not a valid reason to hate news about competition.
So Chill, ...........Everyone
So everyone that bought a/an Windows Phone 7, Android, Symbian and hell, feature phone made a bad decision to opt for any non-iOS platform? Plus, I don't find the iPhone 4/4S hardware appealing to me. :/
I don't want anyone to monopolise the smartphone market.
well, the kernel crashes aren't really visible... just loud, and laggy... at least mine are :- )
p.s., does windows even have the hourglass thing nowadays? can't remember seeing it as of late.
From 2008-2011 since their last big success of the N95 in 2007, many of Nokia's biggest mistakes was it lacked the the modern-looking OS, CPU power, and touchscreen sensitivity like sticking to resistive which showed lag everywhere. And being that they couldn't create software like Apple or an ecosystem even when Symbian was #1 in the last gen, they pretty much handed all the app profits to them. Apple now gets 30% cuts from app developers.
But Nokia packs alot basic features in the phones including their most basic ones. FM radio is even standard for them while many Androids or iPhones don't unless you use Wi-Fi for them. Even their N97 already had 32GB internal memory with expandable memory slot and that came out in 2009! The N900 was such a great geek phone too. They have been making cell phones since 1982 and have been in telecommunications for 60 years, so reception was never a prob for them. Motorola and Nokia both cradled this industry like a baby in the early days.
Now Nokia has a more modern-looking OS with WP7 or MeeGo that looks fluid, over 1GHz CPU speed, and cleaned up the look of Symbian with Belle and Anna. They will never capture that 40% marketshare now that the market has become far more competitive, but they aren't in such bad shape like some naysayers think of them. Still in better shape than RIM, LG, Motorola, and SE. Selling 90M phones sold in one quarter would be huge for any other company. But being Nokia which once had more than the double marketshare of their closest competitor, expectations are high. It gets lonely on the top and the press will always try to bring anybody on top back to Earth.
I would compare them alot to Honda. Honda churns out reliable commuter cars and top-sellers like the Civic and Accord that outsell more luxurious cars like Mercedes. Cheap, but they still get the job done.
But Nokia packs alot basic features in the phones including their most basic ones. FM radio is even standard for them while many Androids or iPhones don't unless you use Wi-Fi for them. Even their N97 already had 32GB internal memory with expandable memory slot and that came out in 2009! The N900 was such a great geek phone too. They have been making cell phones since 1982 and have been in telecommunications for 60 years, so reception was never a prob for them. Motorola and Nokia both cradled this industry like a baby in the early days.
Now Nokia has a more modern-looking OS with WP7 or MeeGo that looks fluid, over 1GHz CPU speed, and cleaned up the look of Symbian with Belle and Anna. They will never capture that 40% marketshare now that the market has become far more competitive, but they aren't in such bad shape like some naysayers think of them. Still in better shape than RIM, LG, Motorola, and SE. Selling 90M phones sold in one quarter would be huge for any other company. But being Nokia which once had more than the double marketshare of their closest competitor, expectations are high. It gets lonely on the top and the press will always try to bring anybody on top back to Earth.
I would compare them alot to Honda. Honda churns out reliable commuter cars and top-sellers like the Civic and Accord that outsell more luxurious cars like Mercedes. Cheap, but they still get the job done.
If the kernel crashes you need to restart the computer, it's obvious as the OS stops in it's tracks.
It's got something to indicate that a program is busy doing something, one would hope.
Obviously. Because to Apple, Apple stood for "difference." That's Apple's entire schtick. Quite frankly, in a sea of universally-licensed everything, Apple is still the only one (or one of the very, very few) in the consumer sector who does vertical integration very well, to the point of noticeable differentiation. So the "think different" marketing-speak actually has some real-world teeth behind it even today. Apple's product differentiation is second to none.
I see nothing wrong with that at all. Frankly, the industry could use a lot more who thought like him. Consumers who respond to his thinking seem to like it just fine. There is a lot to be said for Jobsian thinking when it comes to tech.
Just ask Eric T. Mole.
This is natural. He actually gave a damn about his product. He involved himself personally (I really wish others would, too.) And the rewards are there for all to see, it's no secret. I'd feel the same way. You would too. That's already a a helluva lot more than can be said for other tech CEOs. Incidentally, Jobs' line of thinking with the iPad was absolutely correct. He had the critics and naysayers beat even before they realized it. Then everyone slowly woke up to see the game changed.
Now everyone's trying to get into the tablet game. Tablet market reborn (which is now cutting into traditional PC sales), thanks to Jobs' thinking.
I'm not sure what you're referring to. I posted facts.
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Should've put a dual core in here. Are there currently any dual core windows phones? This should've been the one to introduce it if not....I guess windows phone is similar to iOS in the aspect that it doesn't need crazy specs to run smoothly. Optimization is everything.
Probably has been pointed out already at this point, but it should be "Won't ever learn". Not trying to be a prick, but that was really bugging me.
On topic though, not a big fan of the Metro UI, but at least this is original in every way, and the 800 looks to be solid in terms of hardware.
That's the problem LTD - you can't distinguish between FACT and MARKETING...
There's no difference between Jobs getting P.O at people not jumping up and down over the iPad launch and ANY OTHER CEO P.O who has a product reveal and gets a mediocre response.
You say there's a different because Jobs cares about his product? I would argue that most CEO's care about their products.
Further - many companies are RE-ENTERING the tablet market. Please read that comment carefully. They are re-entering it because SOME companies had already produced tablets as far back as the early 90s. He didn't invent the tablet market. He revived it.
And of course you see nothing wrong with Jobs' behavior. That's a given.
its not so much crashing as going crazy. but thats OT. i got a thread about it in the mba forum for those who are interested (all 0 of you!)
When I analyze overall marketshare, I look at the growth rate or how fast they declined. Just a few years ago, Nokia was at 40%. It will never be like that ever again for them. But I can see them holding out to #1 for the foreseeable future.
Nokia 1100 (from 2003) is the best-selling phone of all-time at 250M and not one other model will ever come close to that in sales.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_1100
Europe prides Nokia. Global population - 11% EU vs 5% NA.
As long as they maintain their strength in Europe, most of Asia, and dominate Africa, they will remain #1 for a long time no matter what pundits think. This was supposed to be breakthrough year for Samsung with over 10M GSII sold, and their marketshare still declined a tad. And this was quiet season from Nokia, I might add.
I laughed when I read an article about the Lumia 800 referring it as the "prostitute" phones since lumia does mean prostitute in Spanish. Stephen Elop (aka The Trojan One) sold Nokia's pride and dignity to the boys of Redmond. SMH. Nokia is now Microsoft's lumia.
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/11/cellphone-market-share-shifting/
Nokia 1100 (from 2003) is the best-selling phone of all-time at 250M and not one other model will ever come close to that in sales.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_1100
Europe prides Nokia. Global population - 11% EU vs 5% NA.
As long as they maintain their strength in Europe, most of Asia, and dominate Africa, they will remain #1 for a long time no matter what pundits think. This was supposed to be breakthrough year for Samsung with over 10M GSII sold, and their marketshare still declined a tad. And this was quiet season from Nokia, I might add.
I laughed when I read an article about the Lumia 800 referring it as the "prostitute" phones since lumia does mean prostitute in Spanish. Stephen Elop (aka The Trojan One) sold Nokia's pride and dignity to the boys of Redmond. SMH. Nokia is now Microsoft's lumia.
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/11/cellphone-market-share-shifting/
Do you seriously think anyone here doesn't know that?
Except that Windows was foisted on users by their companies. iOS and MacOS/OSX were chosen by users themselves, and the basic UI has remained intact since 1984, and copied by M$. And, funny, still going strong. You want failed? Check out OS2.
Judging by what's out there, I really can't tell. Sorry. Probably my loss. But after looking at the iPad, Mac, OS X, iPhone, I'm finding quite hard to feel that way. But this seems to be a normal reaction these days, no?
They are conveniently "re-entering" because a) Apple showed them it was now "safe" and b) Apple showed them how to do a tablet without it sucking a**. And suddenly all tablets mysteriously began to look different from what came before, almost overnight. Coincidence, I'm sure!
Though some are even screwing up the obviously clear lessons. There's no accounting for skill or taste in this industry, that much is abundantly clear. I only look at the results in terms of product, $$$, and ecosystem. Stuff that actually matters, given that we're talking about a tech company. Nothing to really complain about.
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no dual cores. everything is still "chassi 1", basically. granted, gen 2. came with some improvements, but nothing big. chassi 2 (low-end) and 3 (high-end) rumored for launch Q1 2012. According to Nokia, thats why they're only offering what they're offering today. Hard to differentiate within a tight regime, and they had no interest in fragmenting either (for obvious reasons).
Oh well. This was old news to most. Still a bit disappointing. Would've been nice to see at least a glimpse of a 9xx device.
All WP7 phones are smooth as butter and with Mango, the browser gets hardware acceleration features from IE9.
I think the OS and the phone look awesome. I'd get one, but Apple now has me where they want me: I'm invested in the ecosystem and any non-iOS products would complicate things for me. Guess it's Apple for the foreseeable future. Which is cool. It's not like they're turning out crap.
This is exactly the stuff MS-Nokia doesn't want to hear, and exactly the situation they're trying to avoid. You've gotta wonder how many more consumers are thinking exactly the same thing.
At this stage in the game, it's harder and harder for late entrants who offer a product that's just adequate to make a noticeable impact.
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They are conveniently "re-entering" because a) Apple showed them it was now "safe" and b) Apple showed them how to do a tablet without it sucking a**. And suddenly all tablets mysteriously began to look different from what came before, almost overnight. Coincidence, I'm sure!
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or maybe it's because production capacity for large quantities of affordable tablet sized touch screens became available at that same time.
coincidence?