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North Dakota Senate Shoots Down App Store Bill Apple Said Would 'Destroy the iPhone'
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If I can't legally bribe a cop, companies can't legally bribe the government to pass whatever laws they want. It's open corruption, plain and simple.
I know who they are now and they are still irrelevant. Only reason they are getting any attention is because of the whining tantrums they keep throwing. They can be easily replaced anytime and it wouldn’t impact anything.
And on the flip side, I've been working with Epic software and mostly indirectly with Tim Sweeney for 25 years. Many, many games are made with Unreal Engine like Fortnite, Batman, Borderlands, Bioshock, Deus Ex, Darksiders, and Mortal Combat.
Just because you don't know them by name doesn't mean they aren't influencing your life to some degree.
Actually, Apple does not have anything resembling a monopoly, or a stranglehold on app discovery. There is an entire industry of app reviewers, web search companies, and several other platforms that run apps. Apple does not even have the largest marketshare among platforms.
The only thing Apple has is control over its own App Store and its own products, and every customer is able to choose whether to buy from Apple or shop among the competing products.
Who cares. I haven’t found an app worth buying for years in the App Store. Apple saying it needs the store to protect users but lets it be full of garbage is laughable.
Your proposed analogy is not analogous at all.
The hypothetical home is simply hardware. The phone is a combination of hardware and software. It is the software that is both the reason for the lockdown and the part that is actually locked down.
In theory, you could remove all of the software from an iPhone, put in an entirely new operating system that you wrote, and buy software to your heart's content.
Of course, that isn't what is being proposed here. Epic, and DHH, and all the other freeloaders want Apple to provide their hardware and software for free, so that they can sell their own products at Apple's expense.
No matter what side you are on, it’s sad to see regular and probably working class people have such enthusiasm to defend these large corporations like it’s their family. Everybody is either a stan for a company, politician, celebrity and or athlete these days. Take care of yourself and be a stan for yourself first
Except that Apple does not have a stranglehold or a monopoly on anything except its own products. What you are proposing is an unconstitutional taking of Apple's property.
How about a bill that bans online massively multiplayer games with in-game characters doing stupid dances where those games sell virtual items for real money to kids?
Or better yet -- requiring online massively multiplayer games that sell virtual items to allow anybody to sell their own virtual items on their platform for no fees collected. So I could sell my own mods and skins on Fortnite with Epic making zero?
Or better yet -- requiring online massively multiplayer games that sell virtual items to allow anybody to sell their own virtual items on their platform for no fees collected. So I could sell my own mods and skins on Fortnite with Epic making zero?
What exactly do you think I am doing here?
I am defending my own rights by also pushing for Apple’s right to enforce these rules on my behalf, because I know that companies like Epic clearly aren’t doing all these for the benefit of consumers.
Would you also say the United States v. Microsoft Corp. was unconstitutional taking of Microsoft's property?
Apple has about 50% marketshare in the US.
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Except that it does.
Three questions for you:
On an Android device, where can I get apps from?
On a Mac, where can I get apps from?
On an iPhone, where can I get apps from?
Android: Don't know, I've never used Android.
Mac: Apple App Store or the internet
iPhone: Apple App Store or the internet (i.e. progressive web apps.)
Apple locking down the Mac like iOS would probably be the only thing that could make me move to Linux full time. As a platform for developing software and creating other content, macOS has to be open. Too many tools don't work with Apple's restrictions. I'm an expert and I can deal with whatever problems arise from the Mac being more open. But I don't have an issue with the latest security fixes in recent MacOS releases and with the T2 and M1. Making me jump through a few hoops is not a particularly big problem.
I don't want iOS and iPadOS to be as open as the Mac. If you need open, use a different device (like a Mac.) I already have a solution for running things that don't fit into Apple's app stores. Having iOS be restricted is good for almost every user. It prevents a lot of problems where users can't run arbitrary software without fear of causing problems. I would like to see iPadOS be a little more open. Because it is closer to a general purpose computer than an iPhone is, it would benefit from a little more flexibility but it doesn't need to be wide open like macOS. I would just like to see Apple loosen up a little with what is allowed to be installed in iPadOS.
Burger King doesn't prevent people from buying from taco bell. Apple prevents people from installing from other stores.
No one is asking apple to host a 3rd party iOS app store.
Because it’s a phone...and it has more personal private information than a laptop. Your Mac doesn’t know everywhere you’ve been in the last 5 years.
I'm on Apple's side, but this analogy is just wrong. Retailer markups for software downloads vs. brick and mortar retail of physical product are not comparable. Target has to maintain a physical inventory, which is very expensive.
That 30% margin which is in line with other app stores such as those operated by Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, etc?
That 30% margin which is quite a bit lower than what retail markups are on products? Seriously, you should look in to the difference between what price stores pay for the clothes they later sell, its a WAY bigger markup than 30%.
Apple doesn't have a monopoly. Developers can choose Android, or macOS or Windows, or Linux, or whatever. Even on smartphones Android has a larger user base. If developers don't like Apples terms they can choose not to develop for iOS and if enough of them do, or enough important ones do, then Apple will be forced to change. Or they can criticize Apples policies and try and convince them and/or the public that it should change. But forcing the issue through hacky legislation like this? No thanks, its bad governance.
If you don’t like how Apple runs their company, don’t buy their products. I don’t like how open Android is so I don’t buy their products. Crisis adverted.
So anyone who has a different opinion than you is a lemming? Wow, you have a high opinion of yourself. Having worked with the mobile games group of a large film studio, I saw what happened on Android. Malware and piracy. I meant we only released those games that were all server-side for the platform.
As a user, I do not want to have to share my data with many other companies, and I want someone setting rules as Apple does. Once there are many other app stores, all of that goes away.
Apple does not prevent you from buying Android. That is the more accurate analogy.
Actually, that is exactly what Epic wants. They want Apple to host a third party App Store within the App Store. Go read their complaint.