Not blown away by retina display

[gdeputy]

If you repeat it enough times, you'll start to believe it.
It's called subjective conditioning.

If viewing prints in sunlight, they will generally be lit by "normal" white light, at a temperature of around 5500k. Artificial lighting can vary. Common light bulbs range in temperature from about 2500k to 4200k, which is quite warm. Flourescent lighting, which is less common in homes, is hard to nail down. Often cooler, 6500k to 7200k or so, they also output greener or violet lighting. Sometimes they come in warmer variants that are more similar to standard bulbs. Calibrating to a warmer white point helps balance out differences between what you see on screen, and what you see in print.

a blue screen is like 6500k.. its not natural lighting and it's an unnatural image. get over it kid. (I assume your a kid because if your not I'm absolutely shocked by your ignorance).

 

[chukronos]

Nope it's you that is blinded by Apple-hype. I'd LOVE to put an Apple 2 and Apple 3 display in front of you at normal reading distances and hide the backs in a blind comparison test to see if you can REALLY tell the difference. I've already done this and most people got it WRONG.

Tony

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Huh? That's a camera MP resolution thing, not DISPLAY resolution.

Tony

Huh? Perhaps you received an iPad2 instead of the new iPad. I too have shown my iPad to several people with iPad2's. Not only could every single one of them see the difference, every single one of them commented on how much nicer the picture was.

Pictures that I have imported to the ipad also looks much better than they do on my wife's iPad2.

If you are not "wowed" by the display, I understand. But, to claim that you or your friends cannot see a difference in the two displays at 12" is absurd.

 

[Drag'nGT]

The screen doesn't make the web more interesting but since I read (books, email, blogs, forums) on the iPad, YES I can tell the difference. Will everyone right off the bat? Nope. You can show them but I had people tell me they can't see the point of HD back when 720p was the best resolution you could get. Doesn't mean they were right.

The benefit of this screen is the room it allows you to have for apps and features. iPhoto is a good example of an app that really takes advantage of the real-estate.

 

[Tones2]

Huh? Perhaps you received an iPad2 instead of the new iPad. I too have shown my iPad to several people with iPad2's. Not only could every single one of them see the difference, every single one of them commented on how much nicer the picture was.

Pictures that I have imported to the ipad also looks much better than they do on my wife's iPad2.

If you are not "wowed" by the display, I understand. But, to claim that you or your friends cannot see a difference in the two displays at 12" is absurd.

Nope. I know what I'm saying is true because it is. I did NOT TELL people which was which. My guess is that you did tell, which automatically biased their opinions.

Tony

 

[kre62]

Ive said this before and Ill say it again, cause obviously people arent getting it.

This has nothing to do with the resolution of the screen. or the clarity of the text. I already said both are excellent.

This has to do with the color temperature of the screen. Every time EVERY TIME Apple launches a new product, a certain perentage have a yellowish tint. I hoped that this launch would be different, sadly it isnt.

If Apple is insisting on making its displays warmer, then at LEAST include an option for people who prefer the blueish, beautiful tinted screens to set their screens to that temperature.

Also this has NOTHING to do with glue. It will NOT fade in time. The glue issue had to do with small blotches on the screens of some iPhone4's that issue has never been seen since. We are talking about a yellowish calibration of the screen that WILL NOT go away. And Apple is expecting the masses not to care.

I showed my yellow retina display to 10 people at work. All were like "yeah, looks OK I guess". This stuff matters.

Took the pad back just now. I refuse to do it anymore.

 

[NateEssex]

Me either

I wasn't horribly I pressed either.

 

[JeffLebowski41]

The truth is;

The blueish tint people seem to love is actually worse for image quality.

True calibrated displays ARE warm.

My iPhone 4S was warm and at first it was weird (my iPhone 4 was cold) but I know that warm is better. Bring up a picture of like a persons face.. the 'warm' iPad will display a much more accurate representation of the actual skin tone than the 'blue' iPhone 4s.

Either return it and hope for a cool screen (which any true videophile will tell you is blasphemous) or keep the warm screen and see what a (closely) calibrated screen SHOULD look like.

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Example;

The post ABOVE my first... the iPad looks better IMHO.

True color spectrum doesn't support a true white, theres no such thing. it should be off-white.

this. i'm sure there's some lemons here and there, but most people are complaining because they are used to extremely cool color temps. My parents are the same way..they keep their plasma on the cool setting and it drives me freaking insane when I visit. Skin should not be blue.

 

[VFC]

Just want to go on record that the yellowing is 100% not glue or some crap like that. It never has been never will be. Yellow tint screens never change tint. End of story. Stop spreading this falsehood

Just ask the "glue gang" to look up the build date. If it was manufactured in January or February, the glue should have had plenty of time to dry.

 

[JS3]

U should return it.

 

[kre62]

U should return it.

Done and Done

 

[firstapple]

Whatever. I don't really do pictures on my iPad. In everyday use (web browsing, movies, texting, apps, etc), I've been sitting all day comparing the same things on both iPad 2 and iPad 3 and I serious cannot really tell the difference from about 12 inches away. My wife cannot either nor several friends. I'm not sure what everyone is seeing here. It sometimes looks marginally better, bt not $800 better nor "I'm blown away" better. You guys ar just fanboys. It's really not that noticeable.

Tony

It's not $800 more than the iPad 2. It's the same price the iPad 2 was, and only $100 more than what the iPad 2 is now. Let's stop making unrealistic price comparisons.

 

[ScubaCinci]

I'm not disappointed by the screen but not blown away either. Definitely an improvement over the previous iterations. However, if you have an iPhone 4 or 4S, especially if you upgraded from a previous version, you are already used to the retina screen. It was pretty much what I expected to see when I got it.

 

[J.L.Photography]

I woke up early to grab my new ipad. This is my first one. After powering it up, I have to say that I wasn't blown away by the display. I have 2 iPhone 4S, and I think both have better displays. The new iPad display looks kinda dingy to me. I had to turn the brightness all the way up before it looked decent. Compared to one of my 4S phones, it's much warmer. Are all iPads warmer in color temp then the 4S? I thought that since all screens were samsung this time there would be no variations.

Troll....

Get a life

 

[kre62]

Troll....

Get a life

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Read the whole thread, its an issue.

 

[nStyle]

I retract my previous statement.

I went back and did exactly as you did and compared the iPad to my iPhone 4. I did notice a big difference.

Is it enough to make me think any less of the screen? Not really.

But, I'm still unsure of what I will do.

 

[zigzagg321]

You're holding it wrong.

funniest comment so far.

lol at ppl that are telling the OP he is blind. The problem is he is coming from a iphone 4s that already has retina so ofcourse it's not going to blow him away.

I think this sums up the OP's issue.

I can tell the difference easily between iPad2 and the new iPad however.

 

[chukronos]

Nope. I know what I'm saying is true because it is. I did NOT TELL people which was which. My guess is that you did tell, which automatically biased their opinions.

Tony

I didn't have to tell them, they have eyeballs. But, seriously, if you have 20/20 vision you would not be able to resolve the pixels in the new iPad's display(264ppi) at 13" (13.06" to be exact). With the iPad2(132ppi) and 20/20 vision, you would have to hold it 26 inches away from your face to get the same result. That isn't to say that the iPad 2 doesn't have a great display. It just means that at 12" and with 20/20 vision, human eyes can barely see the pixels on the new iPad. However, human eyes with 20/20 vision would easily be able to see the pixels in the iPad 2 at that distance. It isn't my opinion, it is human biology.

 

[johnothy]

I have to agree. I went to Best Buy fully expecting to buy one (and give my Ipad 2 to my sister), but after seeing it first hand I was a bit underwhelmed. The display *is* visibly better, but the effect is rather subtle. LTE could become interesting once the network coverage gets better, but I have used HSPA (AT&T) extensively when traveling and have been quite happy with that, so LTE is not a pressing issue for me.

I think Apple made a good move by continuing to offer the Ipad 2 for a reduced price. It is still an attractive product and should help to get more Ipads into people's hands.

I agree with you. I think the iPad 2 is an excellent value now.

 

[kre62]

I didn't have to tell them, they have eyeballs. But, seriously, if you have 20/20 vision you would not be able to resolve the pixels in the new iPad's display(264ppi) at 13" (13.06" to be exact). With the iPad2(132ppi) and 20/20 vision, you would have to hold it 26 inches away from your face to get the same result. That isn't to say that the iPad 2 doesn't have a great display. It just means that at 12" and with 20/20 vision, human eyes can barely see the pixels on the new iPad. However, human eyes with 20/20 vision would easily be able to see the pixels in the iPad 2 at that distance. It isn't my opinion, it is human biology.

No ones talking about pixels or text clarity, killer

 

[chukronos]

I woke up early to grab my new ipad. This is my first one. After powering it up, I have to say that I wasn't blown away by the display. I have 2 iPhone 4S, and I think both have better displays. The new iPad display looks kinda dingy to me. I had to turn the brightness all the way up before it looked decent. Compared to one of my 4S phones, it's much warmer. Are all iPads warmer in color temp then the 4S? I thought that since all screens were samsung this time there would be no variations.

I do believe the color is running warmer. I have read a few reviews that also alluded to that. I do wish there was a way to adjust the color temp on the screen. I love the screen, but I understand the warmer color not being your preference.

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No ones talking about pixels or text clarity, killer

The person I quoted, chief.

 

[mathmad]

*****, i have to log in just to say that i am on the same boat with the thread starter!
I will keep it for some days to see if my happiness increases, but now, its kinda a weird feeling. The screen is good, but overall, i am not really impressed!!!
You guys dont need too throw ***** at me .

 

[bawbac]

If viewing prints in sunlight, they will generally be lit by "normal" white light, at a temperature of around 5500k. Artificial lighting can vary. Common light bulbs range in temperature from about 2500k to 4200k, which is quite warm. Flourescent lighting, which is less common in homes, is hard to nail down. Often cooler, 6500k to 7200k or so, they also output greener or violet lighting. Sometimes they come in warmer variants that are more similar to standard bulbs. Calibrating to a warmer white point helps balance out differences between what you see on screen, and what you see in print.

a blue screen is like 6500k.. its not natural lighting and it's an unnatural image. get over it kid. (I assume your a kid because if your not I'm absolutely shocked by your ignorance).

Sure, you keep telling yourself those theoretical points but you will find people like realistic screens/color, not warm/yellow tint.
You should research ISF calibration and techniques. Actually, may be apple needs to send their "scientists" to ISF school.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

I saw the difference, and on a scale of one to ten, ten being a HUGE difference, I would give it a strong 8.3/10.

It is significant.

Thank you.

 

[bawbac]

I went to Best Buy and an Apple store tonight and noticed some marketing schemes they are doing to push the new iPad as being better than the iPad2.

They have the new iPad and iPad2 next to each other so screen comparisons can be made.

I agree that the new iPad screen looks sharper when it's about 12 inches from my face but any further, the difference in screen resolutions and sharpness is about equal.

Also, they have the iPad2 brightness toned done to 50% where the new iPad is at 100% brightness to fool people into believing the new iPad screen has more color saturation and vibrant picture.

To make sure people get realistic comparisons, I turned up the brightness on the iPad2.
When the brightness is equal between the two iPads, the iPad2 actually looks better due to its cool color temp, whereas the new iPad looks dingy, yellow when you view the google home page when you have the iPad2 next to it for comparison when both have equal brightness.

Also, I created a google short cut on both the new iPad and the iPad 2.
When I would click the icons simultaneously, thr iPad2 always had the page up about a 1/2 seconds quicker than the new iPad.

I would only recommend then new iPad to those who have no iPad.
IMO, it's not worth of an upgrade and the abundant amount of stock I seen tonight at Best Buy and the Apple store speaks volumes on people's perception on the new iPad.

Out of the 3 iPad launches, I would say this one was a dud.

 

[ZBoater]

Out of the 3 iPad launches, I would say this one was a dud.

So is your definition of "dud" what? Less than a million sold the first week? Just checking...