I tend to agree with this assessment and that is the reason why I went with Android at this time instead of waiting. I'm not sure what will happen, but as I always say I will believe it when I see it and not a day before.
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I tend to agree with this assessment and that is the reason why I went with Android at this time instead of waiting. I'm not sure what will happen, but as I always say I will believe it when I see it and not a day before.
I agree that's why I re-committed to AT&T for the iPhone 4. I'm definately not saying I'm 100% convinced it will happen.
But those who ignore the rumors and deny the possibliity entirely are just being ignorant.
Finally the truth comes out!
This is something that has been pointed out countless times on The various programs on This Week in Technology (TWiT) Take your average US based phone, smart or otherwise, overseas and it is a brick.
go to this link;
http://www.chinavasion.com/index.php/cName/mobile-phones/
Look at the smart phones, most of these phones are not available here in the states but you can order them directly from this outfit. Looking through the phones there I have yet to find one that uses the CDMA standard. These phones have very interesting features. More then one of them has dual SIM slots, most of them have all four of the bands used by wireless devices. A number are dual boot. Window Mobile and Android. The point of this is thanks to the control wireless carriers have in this country we are not able to get the smart phones that are in use in the rest of the world.
I blame a lot of this on the FCC. What they should have done is set the standard for wireless devices. Because CMA is the most commonly used standard out side the US that is the one the FCC should have mandated. They do have the power to do this. The FCC used to be very powerful, almost autocratic, but during the Reagan administration it was gutted. The final nail in the coffin was the sale of frequencies to the highest bidder the amount of money this generated was a real suprise to politicians in DC, they where licking their collective chops over the what they could earmark with all of this cash rolling in. This instantly made a position on the FCC commission a real plum so instead of engineers running the FCC various administrations appointed political hacks and cronies who instead of looking out for the interests of the USA as a whole they where only interested in what was in it for them. Because they wanted fat paying jobs in the very industry they where supposed to regulate they did not want to do anything to rock the boat. Thus the utterly ridiculous crap that is coming out of the FCC today. If you watched any of the hearings before the House and especially Senate committees you would have seen just how uninformed FCC commissioners were and are.
Can you imagine if Apple could have built the iPhone, and iPad with3G they way they wanted to just think what iPhone and the iPad might have been like. You can get a small taste of what could have been by going to Chinavasion and looking at what is there.
Finally the truth comes out!
This is something that has been pointed out countless times on The various programs on This Week in Technology (TWiT) Take your average US based phone, smart or otherwise, overseas and it is a brick.
Not true, I've used my CDMA Treo in China and Korea.
Could it be that they specialize in GSM? And why does what they carry affect me? Who the ### are they and why do I care?
What is CMA?
I think you ment to say GSM. Either way, you need to do your homework and pay attention to the history of how wireless evolved in the US. When digital systems were being built out in the US in the early '90s, there was no predominant system world-wide. As the US usually does, they encouraged competition...let the strongest survive. The existence of CDMA has pushed the innovation of GSM technologies and vice-versa. If there were no competition, we'd probably not have the fast wireless data we have today.
I won't argue against this.
Go do some homework and stop advertising for Chinavision.
Plausible reports? No way.
There will be no verizon iphone in 2011.
I looked at the rumors over the years,; heard the same argument; and watched the proposed time frame come and go. I'm declaring myself an analyst too and putting my statement out there.
Based on my analysis of previous incorrect rumors, I can safely report there will be no verizon iphone in 2011.
Surely this analysis and report deserves its own thread.
Really?
The only time I ever felt ignorant concerning this issue was the second time I believed one of these rumors and spread the word around that the verizon iphone is coming once again.
Since then I've learned from my ways. I realize this perpetual rumor is all a big joke that moves the stock prices of a few companies up and down ever so slightly for the benefit of buying and selling.
I believe that if Verizon were the only mobile phone service provider in the US, there would be no iphone. The negotiations would have been at a stand still.
And with no iphone of course the droid and other smart phones would never have gotten off the ground. Without Apple to create the market, the other companies wouldn't have pushed the envelope. Not for another decade anyway.
And with no iphone of course the droid and other smart phones would never have gotten off the ground. Without Apple to create the market, the other companies wouldn't have pushed the envelope. Not for another decade anyway.
Same here. It would be just my luck that I switch over to ATT, only for the verizon iPhone to come out right after ahah. Sick of carrying my iPod touch and blackberry in my pockets to use medical references, when I could just have one device that does both calls and emails and lexicomp.
Hahahaha, You're like that annoying little brother that just trys to push everyone's buttons. You might as well be sitting there copying everything I say...it would be about the same effect.
Me - "Stop copying me"
You - "Stop copying me"
I did the same thing, told people it was going to happen. Now, I don't tell them it will happen, but I give them a realistic outlook of the possibilities or lack thereof. I'm sorry the experience has turned you into the equivalent a bratty 5 year old. But like the bratty 5 year old brother, I have now added you to my ignore list. Enjoy your self-imposed darkness. I'll think of you and laugh when the Verizon iPhone is released.
Edit: http://gizmodo.com/5659962/ny-times-verizon-iphone-coming-in-early-2011
Bottom line is AAPL needs to work out a way to sell their phones to as many customers as possible. AAPL is unique in the cell phone world because they demand a user experience that means the carrier needs to change their 'business as usual' model. In the case of VZ, all VZ needs to do is distribute each iPhone on their network with their app - the app's sole purpose would be to sell their gear (ringtones, answer tones, etc.).
These aren't big enough barriers to keep AAPL from seizing the opportunity to expand their market share. IMHO, the only reason Android has grown so quickly in the space is because AAPL is limited to selling their gear to the same finite audience over and over when it comes to phones. Each generation that goes by, there's fewer in the pool to sell to... AAPL certainly hasn't proven to be stupid in this new market for them, misfires with the iPhone 4 not withstanding. Jobs and company obviously know their exclusivity with T is a growth limiting factor.
I really can't wait until the flood gates open for iPhone to be on as many networks as possible!!!!
You speak the truth.. and no matter what anyone says, nobody has provided a shred of information to indicate Verizon, Apple or both have had made major shifts in their corporate strategies and philosophies to make this actually happen.
So no matter what Verizon Assistant Store Manager leaked this info to the Times and the WSJ, it is still not going to happen.
The lack of empirical evidence doesn't mean it's 100% that it's not happening.
You go ahead and keep ignoring the news. It may very well be false again.
I on the other hand will continue to read it, digest it, compare it to other sources, and be informed. I won't ignore it and come to some unfounded negative conclusion just because I've been burned in the past and have become pessimistic and bitter.
Plenty of people like me would love to travel internationally but don't have the funds. Or at the least not the funds to support both travel and gadgets like the iPhone. Just saying.
If you have a job that allows for travel, count yourself lucky. I wish I did.
Only if that job allows you to enjoy it somewhat. My friend travels internationally... He's an airline pilot. However, short stay overs before continuing his next leg prevent him from seeing the sights. When off work, last thing he wants to do is go through the whole airport thing again and get into an airplane for another 6-8 hour flight to some international destination. Just saying! Some jobs you can travel internationally, but it's not all that cracked up to be!
If true, a lot of people gonna have a lot of egg on their faces!
I wonder if IHOP can create a new breakfast special next to their rooty-tooty fresh and fruity special?!
Call it the VeriPhone Special! How do you like your eggs?
You forgot to throw in a mini-nuclear reactor to power all your hardware requests.
Based on this press release from Verizon Wireless:
http://news.vzw.com/news/2010/10/pr2010-10-01c.html
I personally think the iPhone for the Verizon network is primarily an LTE device, since by the time the Verizon-network iPhone finally ships there are enough coverage areas to justify an LTE network iPhone. I personally think it may have CDMA, but only for voice communications.
http://news.vzw.com/news/2010/10/pr2010-10-01c.html
I personally think the iPhone for the Verizon network is primarily an LTE device, since by the time the Verizon-network iPhone finally ships there are enough coverage areas to justify an LTE network iPhone. I personally think it may have CDMA, but only for voice communications.
I've been all over the world. Travel is relative. So is being provincial.
The USA has 50 states.
Europe has 50 COUNTRIES in almost exactly the same area.
So while an American might travel across vast spaces containing a dizzying array of cities, mountains, deserts and plains... all in a single country... a European doing the same would be crossing many small countries.
(Which is why a SIM-based phone made sense for Europe, with so little distance between countries with different carriers and tariffs. Americans have the advantage of single carriers spanning vastly larger territory.)
It's not false advertising, was it false advertising when Verizon bashed AT&T in it's misfit toys commercial? Or the "Tierra wearing statue" commercial? It's called satire...and most companies use humor to market their products ...good thing you aren't in marketing..
There are only two posters here that predictably defend these Verizon iPhone rumors with "facts", but they're both always wrong...the obvious giveaway that this is still a rumor is the fact that these sources keep saying "iPhone in January" when we know Apple releases phones in the summer...also if a Verizon iPhone was ready to be sold in three months SOMEONE would have seen it in the wild and taken a photo of it...just for the stock market manipulation alone
What an obnoxious and narcissistic post. Most people's jobs don't involve foreign travel. Additionally, many people (even ones that can afford an iPhone) may not be able to justify foreign travel. Or they just may prefer doing other things with their time/money. Please get over yourself.
Moses.
I mildly disagree with this, as it's too black and white a view.
Apple has been in the past, and is now, capable of changing how they do things.
Not sure anyone would recognize one being tested (unless the person is using it where no other iPhone can get signal - grin). So I don't foresee that kind of leak unless one is lost again.
However, I do agree that it would be unusual nowadays if we didn't see a case back or circuit board leaked from Chinese tech magazines or other private sources.
Personally I have no prediction as to when Apple will do a Verizon phone. All I know, and have said since the beginning, is that it makes good business sense to do one. Not just for revenue, but to slow down the competition. (Which is why I hope a little bit that they don't do one. I don't want to live in a monochoice world.)
I'm not claiming that the iPhone is coming out to VZW in 2011. I *AM* claiming that iPhone will be on VZW sooner or later. There are *many* on here that are making the incredibly bold (and imho asinine) claim that iPhone will *NEVER* be on VZW.
All I can say to that is? Incredibly stupid thinking.
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