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Oct 12 Event For Power Macs & Powerbooks?

ATM Machines... nothing worse....


Lets remember who we are dealing with on tuesday...Steve Jobs
Our brains don't have the power to predict what scraps will fall from his table.
 
One More Thing

Although I'm again not interested much in this idea; Apple, like Sony, could use disks for it's v-pod. Or, if it was a tablet, it would need some sort of CD option anyway....

Can we get one of you talented people with Photoshop to render what a Tablet would look like? I don't even OWN Photoshop...lol...
 
MrSugar said:
- Thinksecret has the best cred of any rumor site, and until they mess up we have no reason to doubt anything they say
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Really?

Just a few weeks ago ThinkSecret reported...

"September 15, 2005 - Contrary to other reports, Apple's PowerBook line, last revised in February with only incremental upgrades, will likely not see an upgrade before Macworld Expo San Francisco in January 2006, at the earliest"

Now they are saying we will see them next week and at a special event dedicated to them.

A few weeks before that, they had this to say about the Sept 7th event...

"September 2, 2005 - Apple will upgrade both its iPod mini and iPod shuffle lines of music players, but most likely not at its media event next week, Think Secret has learned. The media event will instead be devoted almost exclusively to the new iTunes-enabled Motorola phone and the company's partnership with Cingular."

Seems to me we have plenty of reason to doubt.
 
awrc said:
...when it was discussed here, but I noticed it while browsing the PC Connection catalog today.

Anybody else notice that the 2.5GHz Dual G5 machine has quietly been dropped and replaced with a 2.3GHz Dual G5 machine? Price is, I think, the same as the 2.5GHz was, bus speed is dropped from 1.25GHz to 1.15GHz.
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Looks like you missed a Power Mac update done back in April 2005. They release dual 2.7GHz, dual 2.3Ghz and dual 2.0GHz systems.

Power Mac Dual G5 2.7GHz released
 
awrc said:
...when it was discussed here, but I noticed it while browsing the PC Connection catalog today.

Anybody else notice that the 2.5GHz Dual G5 machine has quietly been dropped and replaced with a 2.3GHz Dual G5 machine? Price is, I think, the same as the 2.5GHz was, bus speed is dropped from 1.25GHz to 1.15GHz.

Didn't see it mentioned on any of the news sites, or any of the rumor sites.

Anyone know the story behind this? It's rather going against industry practice to do a reverse speed bump.
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Previously they had a 1.8GHz, a dual 1.8, dual 2.0 and dual 2.5, (from what i can remember). Now they have dual 2.0, dual 2.3, dual 2.7. So the dual 2.3 did not replace the dual 2.5, the dual 2.7 did. The dual 2.3 replaced the dual 2.0.

This happened back in May (?) just after Tiger was released and they upgraded all the desktop machines. It's not new.
 
AvSRoCkCO1067 said:
Although I'm again not interested much in this idea; Apple, like Sony, could use disks for it's v-pod. Or, if it was a tablet, it would need some sort of CD option anyway....

Can we get one of you talented people with Photoshop to render what a Tablet would look like? I don't even OWN Photoshop...lol...
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I dont really see disks in the future for any thing like a video ipod. The whole point of iTMS is to remove the disk from the whole equation. Having a disked player would be a step backwards. Then it really is just a small apple PSP w/o the games.
 
nagromme said:
Now this may be a reach, but what do red curtains mean to most people? Twin Peaks, of course. Could there be some White Lodge Edition iPod coming?
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No, but he will dance on stage while speaking backwards and no one will understand what he is unveiling.
 
Scratchbc said:
I dont really see disks in the future for any thing like a video ipod. The whole point of iTMS is to remove the disk from the whole equation. Having a disked player would be a step backwards. Then it really is just a small apple PSP w/o the games.
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I agree...just playing devil's advocate. I haven't heard any info on the success of PSP movies either, but if they are that expensive, I say 'hell no' - ever heard of Redbox? Why can't we just pay a buck or two (LIKE Redbox - 1 dollar/night) and watch the movie once, and have it delete itself when we're done. One dollar. Two hours of enjoyment :)...

Maybe...But prolly not
 
1984 said:
Really?

Just a few weeks ago ThinkSecret reported...

"September 15, 2005 - Contrary to other reports, Apple's PowerBook line, last revised in February with only incremental upgrades, will likely not see an upgrade before Macworld Expo San Francisco in January 2006, at the earliest"

Now they are saying we will see them next week and at a special event dedicated to them.

A few weeks before that, they had this to say about the Sept 7th event...

"September 2, 2005 - Apple will upgrade both its iPod mini and iPod shuffle lines of music players, but most likely not at its media event next week, Think Secret has learned. The media event will instead be devoted almost exclusively to the new iTunes-enabled Motorola phone and the company's partnership with Cingular."

Seems to me we have plenty of reason to doubt.
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Give them a break. ThinkSecret isn't some clandestine intelligence service. It's a hobby site run by a kid from Harvard.
 
greenstork said:
Make no mistake that one of the reasons that TiVo has taken off and the media center PC has lagged is largely due in part to easy to navigate menus and a super easy, highly intuitive remote.
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You are correct sir. Same reason the iPod rules. Straighforward controls with a brilliant UI.

I love my 2 "peanuts," wish I could program them to control basic functions on my DVD player though... Then I'd get rid of the universal contols altogether.

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djkny said:
Give them a break. ThinkSecret isn't some clandestine intelligence service. It's a hobby site run by a kid from Harvard.
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:confused:

Umm... he was refuting the claim "Thinksecret has the best cred of any rumor site, and until they mess up we have no reason to doubt anything they say") made by another poster and he did so without the level of negativity you appear to getting from his post.
 
nagromme said:
I'd love a PDA--or whatever can give me OS X in my pocket. I don't the market is ready, I just know I am :eek: Don't think it will happen any time soon.

Now this may be a reach, but what do red curtains mean to most people? Twin Peaks, of course. Could there be some White Lodge Edition iPod coming?

Also, although giant movie downloads would get off to a slow start, and may not makes as much sense for iPod as videos would, I coinicidentally just stumbled across Universal's intent to start letting people download movies soon: http://whedonesque.com/comments/8339

But they talk about the timeframe in a way that doesn't make it sound as immediate as next week.
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The iPod is rapidly becoming a PDA if you think about it. First contacts and notes, then photos...video and wireless next? On top of that, what's to stop Apple from making the screen touch-sensitive?

The iPod is the convergence device, with music being the Trojan horse. Music playback will never be sacrificed, so we won't see a large tablet, or clamshell, etc. It will always have the vertical iPod form factor. The one change that would make sense (and is rumored to be coming) is a increase in screen size so it's now vertically oriented...just like a PDA screen too!
 
awrc said:
...when it was discussed here, but I noticed it while browsing the PC Connection catalog today.

Anybody else notice that the 2.5GHz Dual G5 machine has quietly been dropped and replaced with a 2.3GHz Dual G5 machine? Price is, I think, the same as the 2.5GHz was, bus speed is dropped from 1.25GHz to 1.15GHz.

Didn't see it mentioned on any of the news sites, or any of the rumor sites.

Anyone know the story behind this? It's rather going against industry practice to do a reverse speed bump.
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Apple in the last few years has offered 3 models of Powermacs. The previous set of Powermacs used 1.8 GHZ , 2 GHZ , and 2.5 GHZ . The current models use 2 GHZ , 2.3 GHZ , and 2.7 GHZ . Now the 2.7 GHZ model is faster than the previous 2.5 GHZ model . The 2.3 GHZ model is faster than the previous 2 GHZ model. The 2 GHZ model is faster than the previous 1.8 GHZ model. Now you are probably asking why they simply didn't keep the 2.5 GHZ model as the middle model ? My guess is because they couldn't reduce the price low enough and keep the same profit margin .
 
the whole video ipod and itunes movie store is really unlikely, simply because video is still such "uncharted territory". For example, by the time the ipod came out, the mp3 was already the defacto standard for media distrobution, and there were already tons of distibution networks (napster, etc). even on computers of the late 90's a cd could be encoded in around a half hour. the same is not the case for video. The closest thing to a "standard" that's out there is mpeg-4 asp video encoded using either some generation of divx's codec or xvid and wrapped in an avi container. In case you guys missed it, you couldn't play divx files in tiger until about a month ago, and apple seems to hate the avi container (for good reason, since the mp4 container they are pushing is quite a bit more advanced). Now, to encode asp video on the newest mac's (g5 powermacs) is resonably fast (takes about as long as it does the movie to play), but h264, the encoder apple has been pushing so hard, is a whole other story. Even on the fastest g5 systems it takes 6, 7, 8 hours to encode a dvd, and you're looking at WAY slower speeds (like, days) on older g4s (which is much of the apple installed userbase). We could assume that apple would only allow playing movies downloaded from itunes, but i think a lot of consumers would find it sort of lame to have to rebuy a movie they already own.
OH, and currently there is no way of making dvd style menu's and features within the mp4 container, AND movies downloaded from itunes would have to be converted to a smaller resolution (repeat of crazy encoding times, in addition to quality loss) to play on any sort of portable video device. Unless there is some sort of device that can do hardware h264 encoding and decoding, they really can't set up any sort of useful model for movies as they have for music.
SO, it HAS to be either ivideopod and ivideoairport or neither. or the videopod is solely for music videos.
 
1984 said:
Really?

Just a few weeks ago ThinkSecret reported...

"September 15, 2005 - Contrary to other reports, Apple's PowerBook line, last revised in February with only incremental upgrades, will likely not see an upgrade before Macworld Expo San Francisco in January 2006, at the earliest"

Now they are saying we will see them next week and at a special event dedicated to them.

A few weeks before that, they had this to say about the Sept 7th event...

"September 2, 2005 - Apple will upgrade both its iPod mini and iPod shuffle lines of music players, but most likely not at its media event next week, Think Secret has learned. The media event will instead be devoted almost exclusively to the new iTunes-enabled Motorola phone and the company's partnership with Cingular."

Seems to me we have plenty of reason to doubt.
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It seems to me that ThinkSecret has a source (or several) who knows something but add their own speculation to this knowledge and ThinkSecret conveys both. However, note the difference in language 'Apple WILL upgrade both...' which was what happened in sense, the iPod mini was 'upgraded' by being replaced and the Shuffle 'upgraded' by adding a new flash-based iPod to the line-up.
They did not claim to know when this would happen it was just 'LIKELY not at its media ...'.

Same for the Powerbook, they simply said 'will LIKELY not ...'.

Watch their language, if they say something WILL happen, it will happen. If they say it will LIKELY happen, somebody is extrapolating information, which as all extrapolation does not have to be true.
 
AtHomeBoy_2000 said:
Welcome to the way the world SHOULD be. However, with competition and corporate egos, each company feels its products and interfaces are better than the next. Hence why we have a zillion ways to hook a VCR up to a TV and a zillion differant appliance and menu interfaces. It'll never happen until the US Government decides to take control, but that'll never happen because god forbid "Big Brother" impose regulations on corporate America and us citizens.
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An iPod with wireless capabilities would be a great remote control (for the desktop computer.) The desktop computer of course sends music and video wirelessly to a new Airport Express that then outputs music and video to your TV.

This would be in addition to the iPod being able to stream content wirelessly too.
 
Very nice pulls, considering these were very recent. I think someone is pulling Thinksecret's chain. Their story was the only 1 that gave me pause about a iPod Video. Although their track record has been good (they had the Shuffle and Mac Mini predictions dead-on), their timing has been iffy lately.

1984 said:
Really?

Just a few weeks ago ThinkSecret reported...

"September 15, 2005 - Contrary to other reports, Apple's PowerBook line, last revised in February with only incremental upgrades, will likely not see an upgrade before Macworld Expo San Francisco in January 2006, at the earliest"

Now they are saying we will see them next week and at a special event dedicated to them.

A few weeks before that, they had this to say about the Sept 7th event...

"September 2, 2005 - Apple will upgrade both its iPod mini and iPod shuffle lines of music players, but most likely not at its media event next week, Think Secret has learned. The media event will instead be devoted almost exclusively to the new iTunes-enabled Motorola phone and the company's partnership with Cingular."

Seems to me we have plenty of reason to doubt.
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Wooow...

October 12th is definitely gonna be an exciting day!

Or, at least the days leading up to the 12th will be exciting...

***timpani crescendo***
 
I am guessing it's iTunes/iPod related...

My guess is as good as the next person on this forum, but the reason I feel it might be iTunes/iPod related is because the iTunes/iPod enthusiast site - iLounge.com - got an invite to this special invitation-only media event. Why would they get an invite if it was a pretty routine PowerMac/PowerBook Update? They don't usually cover much of Apple's computer line. Moreover, I seriously doubt a routine bump in hardware specs deserves a special event in the first place.

Also, the timing of this event, which is so close to the nano announcement can only be because they want to capitalize on the hotly anticipated holiday sales. They either didn't have whatever it is ready by the Nano/ROKR event a few weeks back or didn't want to overshadow the nano. This would also fit into the "one more thing" teaser, which logically should mean that there were a few things before this, and this is one more thing that Steve Jobs wants to tell you about.

Just my 2c. Considering every single person other than the top people at Apple have no freakin clue what this could be with any certainty, let's just hurry up and wait until Oct 12, shall we?! :)
 
Thinksecret's reasoning makes no sense. The nano is targeting a rather different market, and even if the margins are good on a nano, they will most likely be higher still on a 5G iPod. If a lost nano sale results in a 5G iPod sale Apple would still be better off. I just don't think Apple will go through 2005 with no new hard drive iPods.
 
meinertzhagen said:
Lets remember who we are dealing with on tuesday...Steve Jobs
Our brains don't have the power to predict what scraps will fall from his table.
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uh.... wow. they say mac users are cult like... but this really sounds like SJ is god. Excuse me: GOD. he and apple are mortal, you know. what we get might not be scraps from the table, but the product of sweat and blood, and sometimes, still not that grand.
 
madmaxmedia said:
Very nice pulls, considering these were very recent. I think someone is pulling Thinksecret's chain. Their story was the only 1 that gave me pause about a iPod Video. Although their track record has been good (they had the Shuffle and Mac Mini predictions dead-on), their timing has been iffy lately.
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Might be something to do with apple's legal action against them. Passing them false information in order to discredit them as a rumour source.
 
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