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Office 2004 Screenshots

I agree, Office is its own worst enemy because of this obsolete theme. Entourage suffers most from this.

crazzyeddie said:
Thank ye very much, sir. Same old ugly window theme though... 😱
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Entourage definitly needed work. If it is going to be used with Exchange, then it needs to be a full MAPI client, ability to fully schedule, use custom forms, use public folders etc. Otherwise it is not really an exchange client, just because it can connect to Exchange and send/receive email using IMAP4 and SMTP, you can do this with other email servers, and you are not truely utilizing the full Exchange feature set, thus IMHO it can not be called an Exchange client.
 
dudeami said:
Entourage definitly needed work. If it is going to be used with Exchange, then it needs to be a full MAPI client, ability to fully schedule, use custom forms, use public folders etc. Otherwise it is not really an exchange client, just because it can connect to Exchange and send/receive email using IMAP4 and SMTP, you can do this with other email servers, and you are not truely utilizing the full Exchange feature set, thus IMHO it can not be called an Exchange client.
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You're right - plus, most IT admins that maintain Exchange servers don't turn on IMAP4 support (or are afraid to turn it on), so not having MAPI support in Entourage makes it pretty much useless as an Exchange client.
 
i think i know how he got it 😉

is it any faster? because word is really sluggish, and that's my main problem with it.
another stupid question, is clippy there? or do we still have that mac with legs? 😛
 
nspeds said:
Good for you, obviously, you don't care about the mechanisms one usually utilizes for making reports, doing work and regular everyday tasks that are assigned to us from the workplace. These mechanisms are seeing a possible improvement which could make doing work easier, that's something to drool over...

Maybe you don't do work but just look at macrumors.com all day, so you have no use for such "word processing suit programs". I don't know, just throwing it out there...
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AArrrggg...

I'm just saying that I don't use it so I couldn't care less. You didn't have to be mean about it. Yes, it is a very nice program, but I'm more into Graphics so its not my fancy... 😱 I always use TextEdit and Keynote, I don't need the MS suit. Yes I agree, it's a great program, but I don't have a real use for it.
 
LimeiBook86 said:
I'd install Mac OS X Panther on my 5gb iPod but, it doesn't have built-in USB
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When I saw your signature, I just had to comment on it. As it turns out, Mac OS X doesn't care about USB when it's being installed on an external FireWire hard drive (iPods can be used as FW hard drives). So go ahead and install Panther on your iPod; in fact, I'm planning on doing this too when I buy an iPod.
 
wrldwzrd89 said:
When I saw your signature, I just had to comment on it. As it turns out, Mac OS X doesn't care about USB when it's being installed on an external FireWire hard drive (iPods can be used as FW hard drives). So go ahead and install Panther on your iPod; in fact, I'm planning on doing this too when I buy an iPod.
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It was supposed to be a joke 😉

Also I herd running an OS from an iPod can cause major stress on the Hard Drive.
 
hmmm.

I recently upgraded from Office 98 to v.X pro, and quite frankly I find it less responsive and more intrusive than ever -- I believe my productivity has actually dropped.

I think that having the pallets fade while not in use is a neat idea, and that notepad format is intrigueing... However, I cannot see myself upgrading anymore -- unless they add mac versions of Project or Visio to future upgrades.
 
There are two things that have annoyed me the most about office:

1) Sluggishness. As &RU pointed out, it takes away from productivity.

2) Lack of Unicode support. It's funny that TextEdit can read Office 2003 hebrew and arabic documents, yet Office X can't.

nspeds, can you please check whether there is full unicode support? And as for speed, how does it compare to Office X?



Thanks,

docholiday
 
docholiday said:
There are two things that have annoyed me the most about office:

1) Sluggishness. As &RU pointed out, it takes away from productivity.

2) Lack of Unicode support. It's funny that TextEdit can read Office 2003 hebrew and arabic documents, yet Office X can't.

nspeds, can you please check whether there is full unicode support? And as for speed, how does it compare to Office X?



Thanks,

docholiday
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First off, docholiday rules!

Secondly, I'll check up on the unicode part tonight and get back to ya (still a lot of personal work to clear up)

*Office 2004 feels a bit sluggish but then again, it's still in Beta but I will let it go. I don't know, despite the fact that this is slower, it feels somewhat more stable.

*Try me at rodugal@hotmail.com and I'll give you a try at it, don't hesitate, just do😀 (MSN).
 
I second (or third, or hundred) the posts lamenting Word's speed. Especially when typing--though part of this I suspect is the OS's fault. With the grammar check off and the spell-check and autocorrect on, it doesn't keep up with an average person's typing. Especially if one attempts to insert text in the middle of a paragraph.

Does anyone know why the formatting palette in Word comes down with the genie effect, but the dictionary doesn't?

I also need a better built-in dictionary and thesaurus--are they the same? The ones with Word right now are so stripped-down....In fact, I haven't found any good quick-reference dictionaries or thesauri for OSX (maybe someone can suggest something I don't know about. I've tried Nisus, Britannica, and a couple of others but they are all lacking in some way)....this may be heresy but I miss the old MS Bookshelf I used to have with Win95, back before Encarta or whatever it's called. Quick and very thorough.
 
Veldek said:
Do you have Virtual PC 7, too? If yes, could you say something about its performance?
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No VPC 7 I'm afarid.... at least not in the preview (= beta) version of Office 2004.

I for one am looking for VPC 7 too.... all the others just are not as good. (WINE, bochs, OpenOSX Wintel). Not that I have tried 'em all personally, but I've read a couple of reviews, and all were rated worse than VPC 6.

Here's to hoping.
 
bitfactory said:
haha. you obviously don't know much about Exchange.

in other words, for those who know what REAL Exchange Server implementation is... it still isn't in Office 2004! smtp is NOT Exchange Server support, kids. i guarantee Entourage will still be a JOKE when it comes to real Exchange Server support. you don't get my upgrade $.
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i wish Apple would do the exchange server support.
 
redAPPLE said:
i wish Apple would do the exchange server support.
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Well, Mail.app does support the mail of Exchange....

I still can't figure out why M$ wouldn't make Exntourage 100% compatible with all the features of Exchange.
Somehow it seems like M$ is saying: "Well, we're trying but if you really, really want Exchange support get a PC with our Winbloze"

It would be gr8 if Mail, Address Book, and iCal could be Exchange compatible... < keep dreamimg >
 
MacsRgr8 said:
Somehow it seems like M$ is saying: "Well, we're trying but if you really, really want Exchange support get a PC with our Winbloze"
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Um, that is what they are saying.

And...thats one of the things that got them in trouble in the EU. Not because of that per se, but because they were using the desktop monopoly to push server sales (everyone has a windows box, so now you need a windows server + exchange + biztalk + sharepoint + client access licences for each etc...). The only client compatible is windows, that means since everyone in business has windows with the defualt outlook installed, then the best option for outlook compatibility is exchange.
 
Fukui said:
Um, that is what they are saying.

Windows is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit graphical shell for an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor by a 2-bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition..
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Gotta love your sig.....

.... and it says it all aswell: "competition is good, just don't compete with me"
 
MacsRgr8 said:
Gotta love your sig.....

.... and it says it all aswell: "competition is good, just don't compete with me"
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Well, lets put it this way, I *USED* to be one of those people that only knew DOS and Windows. As time went by, getting sick of building PC's my self, and windows' incessant crappy-ness (this was in the WinME and Win2000 days, I still think XP is just win2000 with nail-polish) and apple, actually, steve was making noise with OS X (which a picture of, I made the wall paper of my WinDOS box before I got a mac to simulate something remotely resembling OS X)...lets just say my cube, from almost 4 years ago, and OS X still look like somthing from 8 years in the future. And after coming to mac I decided to educate myself and studied up and realized what a bad company MS is and how desperate apple was until steve came back and how much of a spirit apple actually has compared to most companies, especially MS who chants "DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS!!!!!" on one side, and the suffocates any others that happen to get "too successfull" on thier platform. MS' continuing copying of everything apple or steve says/does just makes my decision to switch more solidified...
 
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