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Office for Mac 2011 - It's Amazing!
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Sure sounds like it
I sum the boat, I just fell in love with Office 2011, finally!, I was hating 2008 terribly, now it will be nice to see what is Apple to come up with iWork '11 and make a comparison, but Office 2011 totally ROCKS!!!!!
Same! I really regret buying iWork 09 though
You can find out here: https://www.techg.arvatousa.com/officemactechg//default.aspx
If you have the Office 2008 home and student version then you should get the Office 2011 Family Pack which, I think, also includes 3 licenses.
That looks much better! I wonder how you did that, I couldn't get rid of everything you did, have to play with it some more
.... But thanks for posting that screenshot, just knowing it is possible to regain some vertical space and do away with useless clutter makes a big difference! Thanks again.I did notice that doing a search and replace, from the middle of a document, ran through the whole document and quit leaving me looking at the last page. Not returning to the point you started is almost a deal breaker for me
, considering the way I have to edit long documents. Again this may be user failure, as I haven't had time to really delve into the search function.I will also have to try editing a document in Japanese to see how the app handles that language. I will be getting the Japanese version when it goes on sale, and traditionally there have been many differences in the English and Japanese versions dictated by the two-bit Japanese characters. People who do not have to work in two languages have it sooooo much easier!
There is "Arrange all" option
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Outlook is an epic fail with no GCAL and mobile me calender syncing.. UGH!!! Entourage had mobileme calendar syncing FFS!
Contacts sync fine if anyone cares..
Contacts sync fine if anyone cares..
I don't know if it's just me, but the cursor (insertion point) in Word still disappears while typing, making it completely impossible to judge when to stop if I were typing or deleting a lot of spaces, and quite difficult if I'm moving around with the cursor keys.
PPT and Quicktime or Window Media Player
In the past, Mac Office supported QT but not WMP and visa versa. Result tricky to play QT from Mac Office 2008 on Windows computer, I wonder if this was fixed. Ideally Mac Office 2011 with QT will play in Windows PPT if it has QT app.
In the past, Mac Office supported QT but not WMP and visa versa. Result tricky to play QT from Mac Office 2008 on Windows computer, I wonder if this was fixed. Ideally Mac Office 2011 with QT will play in Windows PPT if it has QT app.
I'd be interested in some real world compatibility tests.
Frequently the formatting and table of contents of a mac word created document will get trashed after its edited on windows word and sent back to the mac for review. It appears the formatting mess-up traces back to the document style definition getting altered.
I've also had paragraph numbering get totally corrupted going back and forth between PC and Mac versions of word. Where I catch it is in the table of contents.
Frequently the formatting and table of contents of a mac word created document will get trashed after its edited on windows word and sent back to the mac for review. It appears the formatting mess-up traces back to the document style definition getting altered.
I've also had paragraph numbering get totally corrupted going back and forth between PC and Mac versions of word. Where I catch it is in the table of contents.
Sync informaiton discouraging
Bugout said (above) that syncing of gcal is no good - is it also no good for iCal? That's a deal-breaker for me so please respond with your experiences.
I just reread what he wrote and see there's no Mobile me syncing. Bye bye Microsoft. I do find switching between ical and address book not nearly as convenient as the integration of Calendar and Contact in Entourage, but if MS office 2011 doesn't improve on the existing and actually makes it worse, I'll have to adapt unless I hear of a bug fix.
Bugout said (above) that syncing of gcal is no good - is it also no good for iCal? That's a deal-breaker for me so please respond with your experiences.
I just reread what he wrote and see there's no Mobile me syncing. Bye bye Microsoft. I do find switching between ical and address book not nearly as convenient as the integration of Calendar and Contact in Entourage, but if MS office 2011 doesn't improve on the existing and actually makes it worse, I'll have to adapt unless I hear of a bug fix.
Any experience with Spaces interaction?
One of the biggest frustrations in Office 2008 was its inability to interact
"properly" with Spaces - any news whether Office 2011 is any better?
One of the biggest frustrations in Office 2008 was its inability to interact
"properly" with Spaces - any news whether Office 2011 is any better?
No offense, but why are you in this discussion, then?
"Office" is generally for people in offices, who do need it, and do use a variety of features.
Why is there a "Home and Student" version then? It doesn't have any specific audience, everyone uses it. You don't have to be professional Excel user to be allowed to use Office. I like Office more than iWork because it's more compatible with Office for Windows. I have often faced some formatting issues when exporting Pages files as Word documents, those aren't nice.
True of entourage and Mail, though, no?
At least with earlier versions, if you switched default email to entourage then from within iPhoto when you chose to email a photo it created an email with attachment in entourage.
Question
In Office 2007 for Windows you are forced to use the ribbon (AFAIK). Can you access most of the functionality through the menu bar in Office 2011 for Mac?
In Office 2007 for Windows you are forced to use the ribbon (AFAIK). Can you access most of the functionality through the menu bar in Office 2011 for Mac?
I have been working with Office 2011 for about 4 months or so in an enterprise environment where everyone else is using Office 2003 for windows. With one exception, the compatibility problems that plagued previous versions are gone. Formatting and styles work wonderfully. I work on the same files on my Mac and my work PC without any problems.
The only difference I can see is that in Word 2011, I cannot generate a table of contents where the entire line is a hyperlink. Only the page numbers are hyperlinked. The hyperlinks will work if the TOC is created in Windows, but if I update the field, the text links are gone. Only the page numbers are links.
Except for that, I much prefer working in Word 2011 if I have to use Word. It even works fabulously with SharePoint. The much-touted simultaneous editing capability of Word for documents on SharePoint 2010 or Skydrive locations works the same in Office 2010 for Windows and Office 2011 for Mac.
Oddly, Excel has no recent documents menu. I am running beta 6. Hopefully they will fix that.
Office 2011
I've been using the Beta 6 build for about 2 weeks.
I work at a company that has slowly been opening up to Mac users but much of our IT infrastructure is firmly Windows focused. We are HEAVY Outlook users, so much so that when I went to the Mac earlier this year I still was running Outlook 2010 in a Parallels Windows 7 session.
While there are a number of things I'm less than thrilled about in the Office 2011 version of Outlook, at the end of the day it is robust enough (unlike Entourage or Mail or iCal) and works well enough with the Exchange 2010 server that I don't have to use Parallels and Windows 7 anymore. I've slowly been importing my 15GB of PST files and haven't run into any major issues. Word, Excel and PPT are also much closer to the Windows versions that most of my colleagues use to while I'm still happier using Keynote, at least I can create almost perfectly compatible presentations and share with them using Powerpoint 2011.
Communicator is a big improvement, but it lacks what I had most wanted -- support for sharing desktop. My company is moving away from Live Meeting and Goto meeting so we can use the built-in sharing in Communicator, but given that the Mac version lacks this I'm not sure what my workaround will be (perhaps back to Parallels, grrrr).
Some of the things I've discovered in Outlook I'm not sure how to fix (and would appreciate any suggestions)
- No automatic spell checker (fix manually or when you send it will go out with errors)
- Signature defaults to above quoted text so can get confusing when replying to a thread
- When changing a meeting in calendar, no option to just send update to added/deleted participants
- In the calendar, adding resources like conference rooms needs to be done one at a time rather than en-masse making it difficult if you are searching for a single open room out of 25 possibilities
- Getting names to match up when sending email or meeting invites can be hit or miss; if you type the name too fast and don't choose the right one from the drop down (for example if you have someone's personal and work address listed) then you'll end up with a ? instead of the right person
At the end of the day I think MSFT did a really strong job with this release and it really doesn't suffer from nearly the same level of bastard red headed stepchild symptoms as most Mac versions of Office have in the past 10 years. That isn't to say that there isn't more work to be done to bring it in line with Windows, but for heavy Office users and especially those who work multi-platform then absolutely worth the upgrade.
I've been using the Beta 6 build for about 2 weeks.
I work at a company that has slowly been opening up to Mac users but much of our IT infrastructure is firmly Windows focused. We are HEAVY Outlook users, so much so that when I went to the Mac earlier this year I still was running Outlook 2010 in a Parallels Windows 7 session.
While there are a number of things I'm less than thrilled about in the Office 2011 version of Outlook, at the end of the day it is robust enough (unlike Entourage or Mail or iCal) and works well enough with the Exchange 2010 server that I don't have to use Parallels and Windows 7 anymore. I've slowly been importing my 15GB of PST files and haven't run into any major issues. Word, Excel and PPT are also much closer to the Windows versions that most of my colleagues use to while I'm still happier using Keynote, at least I can create almost perfectly compatible presentations and share with them using Powerpoint 2011.
Communicator is a big improvement, but it lacks what I had most wanted -- support for sharing desktop. My company is moving away from Live Meeting and Goto meeting so we can use the built-in sharing in Communicator, but given that the Mac version lacks this I'm not sure what my workaround will be (perhaps back to Parallels, grrrr).
Some of the things I've discovered in Outlook I'm not sure how to fix (and would appreciate any suggestions)
- No automatic spell checker (fix manually or when you send it will go out with errors)
- Signature defaults to above quoted text so can get confusing when replying to a thread
- When changing a meeting in calendar, no option to just send update to added/deleted participants
- In the calendar, adding resources like conference rooms needs to be done one at a time rather than en-masse making it difficult if you are searching for a single open room out of 25 possibilities
- Getting names to match up when sending email or meeting invites can be hit or miss; if you type the name too fast and don't choose the right one from the drop down (for example if you have someone's personal and work address listed) then you'll end up with a ? instead of the right person
At the end of the day I think MSFT did a really strong job with this release and it really doesn't suffer from nearly the same level of bastard red headed stepchild symptoms as most Mac versions of Office have in the past 10 years. That isn't to say that there isn't more work to be done to bring it in line with Windows, but for heavy Office users and especially those who work multi-platform then absolutely worth the upgrade.
Question with Safari compatibility
Does this version work for copying images from Safari. In '08 whenever I right-click to copy an image from Safari and then paste in Word, it only pastes the URL for the image not the image. I have to go to Paste Special > Picture to get the image. Hopefully this release fixes that.
Does this version work for copying images from Safari. In '08 whenever I right-click to copy an image from Safari and then paste in Word, it only pastes the URL for the image not the image. I have to go to Paste Special > Picture to get the image. Hopefully this release fixes that.