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Samsung doesn't need insider information to copy Apple's upcoming phone designs since Apple hands it to them.
The curved screen sure, but whatever specific features Apple has nailed down I'm sure we will see in the S8/S9.

Okay. I'll bite :)

Just how does Apple hand its phone designs to Samsung?

Are you sure you haven't confused Samsung supplying some chips, with Foxconn making iPhones?

Foxconn could have detailed info. But supplying chips doesn't give Samsung any Apple info on features like force touch, or designs of the case, UI, etc.

(Now I'll grant you, if Apple contracted Samsung to making a folding display, that would be a valid example of giving away prime info! Even though it would still be basically copying Samsung.)
 
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Whenever I see someone with an Samsung Edge, it kind of looks weird to see the display extend around the bezel. Seems to have no purpose at all?

The purpose is that you don't need a bezel - you get to use the full width of the phone as a screen. Case in point: The massive beast that is the iPhone 7 plus doesn't even have a bigger screen than the significantly smaller (in physical size overall) Galaxy S7 Edge.

It is also nice to have the phone show notifications or the alarm clock on the 'side' while it is on your bedside table without having to pick it up in the middle of the night.

Yeah, I'm sure Samsung rushed it to market almost two years ago because they 'heard that Apple was planning something like it and wanted to be first'.... Wow. Just wow.
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Also by allowing users to fiddle with their screens no content creater can be sure that what he makes is what the viewers see, that's why we have standards to try and ensure that things look the same no matter where it is viewed.

Except it doesn't when most smartphone users turn down the screen brightness way below what I personally would call acceptable for even remotely viewing photos the way they were meant to be seen.

I hope Apple at least steps up its game when it comes to screen resolution next time around, the fuzziness compared to higher resolutions smartphone screens is so behind the curve that it is frankly embarrassing.
 
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The purpose is that you don't need a bezel - you get to use the full width of the phone as a screen.
Smaller or no bezel is clear. I'm all for that. It's the curved part where it stops making sense. But ok, if you use it to check time and notifications at night I get it. I rather use my Apple Watch for that but I guess looking at the 6-7mm thin side of a phone is also an option..
 
That was a smokescreen obviously considering the 6 was released in a year and a half and they knew they were working on it.

Fortunately for Samsung Apple doesn't hold a grudge either. if I were Apple I would have a backup plan in my own pocket.
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Lg and Japan display among others make the current screens. tsmc makes the cpus and on the 6s there is a question about who may have built the better chip Tsmc or Samsung.

What's your point?

you quoted a guy about it will be soon 100% made by Samsung and said it was still designed by Apple. implying like apple designed it and no credit to Samsung or who ever is building the hardware
 
The force touch home button is software. It works great
No, the force Touch home button is controlled by software. It is not part of the software, i.e. a software button, which is very clearly what I was referring to. If you can't tell the difference then no wonder you're excited.
 
They have the option to look over saturated.
They also have the option to not look over saturated.
It's called choice, you should try it some time.

LOL. You've misinterpreted my information and the term "choice" means the option is able to be altered or switched. To my knowledge no phones use AMOLED / OLED allow the user to "de-saturate" the display over-saturation which is inherent in the display itself. Your version of "choice" seems to refer to phone choice.
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We all must admit despite the latest iPhone's using LCD panels, these are the best looking displays so far on the market: No we don't because most benchmarks will argue your (poor) judgment.

However, the drawbacks of OLED ironically are battery power. Again, cfr. aforementioned comment. Sure Samsung has a bigger battery (+ 100 mAh more), but still, that doesn't do your argument any good (considering resolution, etc.).

General : Apple copying Samsung and vice versa: my god, so many crybabies. I wonder how it effects (unfavorably) you as a consumer?

Benchmarks can be altered to give favourable or non-favourable outcomes as the software is written by people, which means bias will always exist. These "results" however do not mean the outcome is the absolute truth.

As for battery drain it appears you missed the important information - On white backgrounds OLED can drain a lot more power than LCD. So no matter how large the battery is, this is an inherent flaw in OLED technology and having a larger battery just reduces the issue, it does not solve it.
 
you quoted a guy about it will be soon 100% made by Samsung and said it was still designed by Apple. implying like apple designed it and no credit to Samsung or who ever is building the hardware
Your right, I said "the" meant to say "a". Obviously apple, doesn't put all of their eggs in one basket. Point still stands, the chip designs are apples...
 
I fully understand those are reasons why people upgrade. What I'm saying is that if you value a slightly faster phone or slightly better camera at hundreds of dollars a year then Apple has you where it wants you.
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Yeah, I'm not denying the usefulness of any particular upgrade. I just don't think a slightly more convenient interaction mode (in the case of Touch ID) or slight improvement in photo quality (every iPhone upgrade) is worth spending hundreds of dollars a year to achieve. But people do it, and Apple loves them for it. And they consider their upgrade paths accordingly.
I hear you. And the probanly not worth the money as you say. We were just looking st pictures taken of my son when he was born (5s) and pictured taken today and there actually is a notable difference. I think the last big step was 5s to 6 if you're not counting this double lends business.
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The watch face is off for most of the time. Therefore it won't burn-in as fast.
That's fair. I've still yet to see a complaint. And the Watch is a couple years old now.

Most of the issues I have read about (and I'm not expert) are display units of phones anyway. I think fornthe vast majority of users it's just a non issue.

Anectodal, I know, but my work phone gets a fair amount of use particularly in navigation, calendar and messaging apps and I haven't noticed burn In there either. I see this a bit like bend gate. It's a "huge issue" on the internet. But is it really much a real world issue?

Anyway my initial intent was to point out that Apple has gotten passed some of these hurdles (and I think others have too), the direct sunlight usability being one major notable example.
 
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Am I the only one who is worried about the upcoming fragmentation? They say it's a Premium iPhone. I thought we already have premium with premium prices? I have no doubt that this version will cost at least 1000$ which will be a ridiculous price.

Sad to see ongoing fragmentation of their products.

Yeah, the Tim Cook years will probably be remembered for all the wrong reasons.
 
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That's fair. I've still yet to see a complaint. And the Watch is a couple years old now.

Most of the issues I have read about (and I'm not expert) are display units of phones anyway. I think fornthe vast majority of users it's just a non issue.

Anectodal, I know, but my work phone gets a fair amount of use particularly in navigation, calendar and messaging apps and I haven't noticed burn In there either. I see this a bit like bend gate. It's a "huge issue" on the internet. But is it really much a real world issue?

Anyway my initial intent was to point out that Apple has gotten passed some of these hurdles (and I think others have too), the direct sunlight usability being one major notable example.

Everything is a huge thing on the internet it's the place everyone unleashes their inner diva :eek:
 
Choice is also buying a non-oled device if one wants...

Sure, it's your choice, although...

If the rumors are true, then anyone wanting a non-OLED display will soon no longer have the choice of picking Apple's top phone model.

(Alternatives like micro-LED are years away... if even ever... from mass production, from what I've read. Unless perhaps Apple only wants to make a very limited edition model, kind of like how many of us are hoping Samsung will do a folding phone, even if its production amount is small.)
 
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Sure, it's your choice, although...

If the rumors are true, then anyone wanting a non-OLED display will soon no longer have the choice of picking Apple's top phone model.

(Alternatives like micro-LED are years away... if even ever... from mass production, from what I've read. Unless perhaps Apple only wants to make a very limited edition model, kind of like how many of us are hoping Samsung will do a folding phone, even if its production amount is small.)
I don't have apples top model now, for me only, lcd is more than sufficient and my eyes like LCD over oled at this point in time anyway.
 
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Choice is also buying a non-oled device if one wants...

Of course it is.
Heck, if they made a screen out of potatoes, you could choose that too....that would be choice also.
My original point is what you see out of the box isn't omled's only mode.
 
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I don't have apples top model now, for me only, lcd is more than sufficient and my eyes like LCD over oled at this point in time anyway.

LCD is a low end display technology everyone wants scrapped which is why the non OLED iPhone is the low end iPhone in Apple lineup
 
Everything is a huge thing on the internet it's the place everyone unleashes their inner diva :eek:
Haha. I agree. I guess I just don't understand the extreme prejudice against oled here (or vice versa). I think both technologies look fine, although the best TVs on the market right now are AMOLED; I think we are moving away from LCD in almost all applications and that isn't a huge surprise. But I am sure we saw the same reluctance when leaving the tube era. :)

[And since some here are going to insist this is all just subjective, just look at some independent screen testing pages, if that is of interest. I don't mean to imply a person cannot still prefer LCD even though another screen is tested technically better.]
 
He's referring to the rumor that only the "premium" iPhone 8 will have OLED, while the lower end models will still use LCD, perhaps because of not enough OLEDs being available.
I understand that, what I was trying to tease out was whether this user was under the impression that LCD's are all the same (regardless of the technology), just like many people are under the odd delusion that OLED is a monolithic technology.
 
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