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One Analyst Thinks the Next iPhone Will Have a USB-C Port, Smaller Notch, and Touch ID Under Display

Michael Goff said:
So you think it should have more tech and basically wipe out a majority of the margin.
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According to 9 to 5 mac, Apple makes about 70% profit on a base iPhone X, and even more on larger memory units. So yes, they have the room.

Until they have another large margin line Apple income will be dependent on the iPhone. And right now that means their sales numbers are down because the price are too high. This is especially true when you look at more price sensitive markets like China and India, which home to 1.3 and 1.4 billion consumers receptively.
 
jerryk said:
According to 9 to 5 mac, Apple makes about 70% profit on a base iPhone X, and even more on larger memory units. So yes, they have the room.

Until they have another large margin line Apple income will be dependent on the iPhone. And right now that means their sales numbers are down because the price are too high. This is especially true when you look at more price sensitive markets like China and India, which home to 1.3 and 1.4 billion consumers receptively.
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I highly doubt they have a 70% margin on the base iPhone X.
 
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I’ve enjoyed my time with the iPhone and as an owner since the original I’ll miss it when I move on. That’ll be next year when my X starts exhibiting signs of battery fatigue. I’ll stick with them if they return to some kind of fingerprint sensor, otherwise I’m out. FaceID is just too inconvenient.
 
harami said:
As a medical professional who wears a surgical mask, the absence of Touch ID is an absolute no-no.
None of my colleagues have or want an iPhoneX for this absolute reason. We are still with IPhone 8 or moved on to Samsung.

Sorry Apple, for you non medical folks you could care less about the medical professionals, but we are abandoning your product.
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I would love to see a return of TouchID, but still I have to wonder - isn't it even more troublesome in the medical field, what with people wearing rubber gloves?

Sorry, that may be a stupid question, as it is not my field at all. Still, I can imagine there are a lot of professions where gloves are common place, more so than masks, and hence something like FaceID might be better. E.g. rugged industrial tablet manufacturers like Panasonic usually tout their screens as capable of working with gloves.
 
Agree with the Macrumors article analysis here.

I think that the iPhone is more likely to be like the Watch in a few years ie no ports and almost completely sealed. So I think that lightening will stick around until then.

I can’t see why Touch ID would come back. Apple obviously believes that Face ID is better and the future.

Yes, I can see the Face ID unit getting smaller, but alongside that I can see the panel displays getting easier to manufacture and to replace - and putting Touch ID into the middle of them is not going to help with that.

Well, they’ll be cheaper until Apple works out how to put the Face ID unit under the display...
 
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But I started seeing foldable innovation in the Android world already. All these 2018 stuff, in display touch ID, face ID, USB-C.... May be not much innovations left.
 
WannaGoMac said:
I agree. If they get rid of charging/interface port that will finally push me away from iPhone. I prefer to sync my phone to my computer than using apple icloud (and sync via wifi is super slow). And charging "wirelessly" is too slow for me.
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It won’t actually bother me. I can’t wait to get a new phone and have wireless.
 
BMcCoy said:
I seem to remember that Ming gets his info from sources in the hardware supply chain, usually when the bulk orders are being being put through - so presumably for things like the camera and sensors, biometrics, chips, screens etc. And that’s how he then deduces the likely number, and sizes of new iPhones, along with a handful of their specs.

He is consistently the best of the rumour analysts.

So I would guess that the 2019 phones are still in prototype testing, with different features or designs, and orders are not yet in for large scale production of the the component parts.

Although he does sometime get it right very early, sometimes a whole year before release, so perhaps he gets info on the prototype designs too, when they are a form factor redesign.

Either way, I wouldn’t be surprised if we hear from him soon.............
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Well he did at one point said 2019 will be three model and more of the same very early on. That is what worries me because more of the same isn't good enough.
 
HJM.NL said:
While I'll applaud any progress being made by Apple, it's all a too little too late. WWMC in Barcelona will proof 2019 is the year apple will trail in innovation but at a very expensive price. Those are ingredients for a schrinking overall marketshare. 2019 will be the year too much milking takes it's toll.
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And so was 2018, 2017, 2016. Oh right, the s10 is the paragon of innovation, which is more of the same.
 
This doesnt point to smaller faceID but to a smaller XR phone without the face ID.

People seem to forget the 5.7" screen was about the smallest size screen they could make with the notch, which is identical on al devices. So for a smaller screen they need to remove faceID and replace with under screen touchID.

I think it's highly likely the new line up will be:
$650 XR ~5.3"
$750 XR max 6.1" (the old XR rebadged)
$900 XS
$1000 XS max
 
torana355 said:
You seem to have missed the point, which is a fps has its place and isn't slower then face Id. I would not be surprised to see Apple adopt the ultrasonic undersceen fps.
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I don’t particularly see an advanatage of a phone being unlocked prior to me looking at it. Once I look at my phone, which is kind of the whole point, it’s unlocked without thinking about it. I don’t have to feel in my pocket for where to put my finger, I don’t have to look at my phone to identify where to place my finger on the screen, it’s just unlocked. Without thinking about it at all. That is a better solution in my eyes and apparently Apple thinks so as well. They wouldn’t reverse course at this point because there is no reason to. Face ID is already better and will only get better in the future. Plus, authentication options within the OS are better as well.
 
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harami said:
As a medical professional who wears a surgical mask, the absence of Touch ID is an absolute no-no.
None of my colleagues have or want an iPhoneX for this absolute reason. We are still with IPhone 8 or moved on to Samsung.

Sorry Apple, for you non medical folks you could care less about the medical professionals, but we are abandoning your product.
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Are you and your colleagues checking your phone during surgeries??? Do you wear a mask 24/7???

Wouldn’t gloves render Touch ID pretty much useless??
 
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Is love to consolidate cables for travel. If future Macs and iPads are USB-C, my Switch is USB-C, I don’t want my iPhone requiring its own lightning cable...
 
FightTheFuture said:
TouchID? I suppose the headphone jack is coming back to?
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That would be an instant buy from me.
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DNichter said:
Hard no on this one. There is absolutely no reason to have both. By the time you look for the Touch ID indicator, your phone would be unlocked with Face ID.
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There are plenty of reasons. There are many use cases that don't involve people looking right at the phone when wanting to unlock it that touchID is superior at. For instance, I leave my cell phone laying face up on my desk at work and a bit off to the side. I listen to music or podcasts a lot while I work, and when I want to change them to something different I just reach over and unlock with touchID (my face isn't in range of FaceID typically) and make the change. Another case is while in bed. I'm not saying FaceID is bad, there certainly are instances where it is faster and works better, but there are drawbacks too, and TouchID just happens to fit my use case better, so for me it's the superior solution if I had to pick one. Having both, on the other hand would allow everyone to enjoy the benefits of both.
 
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BvizioN said:
Yep. I see Touch ID replacing Face ID when I see 3.5mm jack returning to iPhone. Not saying Touch ID won’t return under display as a second option but Face ID is just too good to go away.
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The 3.5 mm jack should never have left. Its removal was a way to increase sells of Airpods. Their excuse that it was done for waterproofing is disproved each time a Samsung or other phone with waterproofing and a jack is sold.
 
jerryk said:
The 3.5 mm jack should never have left. Its removal was a way to increase sells of Airpods. Their excuse that it was done for waterproofing is disproved each time a Samsung or other phone with waterproofing and a jack is sold.
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Linking the headphone jack departure and sales of airpods is another variation of planned obsolescence. I don't buy it. Airpods seem to be a popular product due to their form and function.
 
jerryk said:
The 3.5 mm jack should never have left. Its removal was a way to increase sells of Airpods. Their excuse that it was done for waterproofing is disproved each time a Samsung or other phone with waterproofing and a jack is sold.
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And Samsung are set to remove theirs this year
 
absynth said:
This doesnt point to smaller faceID but to a smaller XR phone without the face ID.

People seem to forget the 5.7" screen was about the smallest size screen they could make with the notch, which is identical on al devices. So for a smaller screen they need to remove faceID and replace with under screen touchID.

I think it's highly likely the new line up will be:
$650 XR ~5.3"
$750 XR max 6.1" (the old XR rebadged)
$900 XS
$1000 XS max
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This is an interesting point - I didn't think about the notch forcing the iPhone to be bigger.

I'd LOVE to see a smaller phone again, and don't give a crap about face id.
 
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