One Analyst Thinks the Next iPhone Will Have a USB-C Port, Smaller Notch, and Touch ID Under Display

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And Samsung are set to remove theirs this year

...whereas Sony is returning the headphone jack again, after dropping it in 2018. Granted, Sony is a minor player in phones nowadays, so this does not exactly indicate a trend.

I think the Android phone makers are dabbling around with this a bit, testing the waters, see if they can get away with dropping it. For Android users it is easier to switch to another phone maker if they insist on the headphone jack. Maybe Sony saw that removing the jack hurt their sales - or they are just desperate and try everything...

 

[thejadedmonkey]

I hope so. At least this would allow for headphones that don't need a proprietary jack, or a dongle.

 

[Chorx]

Ah yes, of course. When everyone finally has the same definition of “iPhone cable” and cables are plentiful, let’s switch.

I think this is the first time in my life I’d prefer just a bit longer with the old standard. I personally to not want to deal with the insane headache of “this kind of usb c able is ok, this kind of charger will blow your phone up”.

I mean, what is the use case for usb c on your phone? what about lightning isn’t good enough?

 

[lordofthereef]

I'll be the first to say that faceid outperformed my expectations. I figured it would be good, but it did surprise me.

That said I'd be happy for just Touch ID and a full screen panel. I do watch quite a bit of content in landscape mode and I wouldn't mind being able to use all of that screen. Plus I haven't really found many scenarios where faceid was flat out better.

All this said, not holding my breath. I imagined myself keeping the X at least three years as is.

 

[UltimaKilo]

Can we wait until spring until we start talking about 2019 iPhones? At this point, other than better battery, smaller notch and fast charging, what the heck else can you add to a phone? The XS is already an impressive machine.

 

[Momof2.1107]

Someone picks up my phone, "hey look at this", I look, phone is authenticated, they swipe up and bingo.
Someone taps on my screen to wake my device, I look over to see why my screen has lit up, it authenticates, they swipe up and bingo.

That's more secure than trying to dupe me into putting my finger on the home button TouchID or under screen TouchID sensor?

That's not taking into account the other points, of having to pick up your phone and look at it at the right angle for it to authenticate, or to have to dislocate your shoulder to look at your device to unlock it while running/in the gym.

If you have attention awareness disabled, then yes you don’t have to have your eyes open to unlock your phone. I have it enabled, so my eyes have to be open to unlock my phone in the daytime and at night when it is pitch black and WHEN I AM LAYING DOWN! I wear glasses and sunglasses and have 0 issues unlocking my X even in direct sunlight.

That’s just like saying what if I was asleep and someone wanted to unlock my phone or purchase an app while I was asleep? All they would need is my fingerprint. Or what about when your hands are wet, have lotion or oil on them? What about when your fingers are dry? What about when you have on gloves?

In your opinion and many others, Touch ID is better and in my option and many others, Face ID is better. There are pros and cons to each and I wish more people would understand that.

 

[DNichter]

That would be an instant buy from me.
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There are plenty of reasons. There are many use cases that don't involve people looking right at the phone when wanting to unlock it that touchID is superior at. For instance, I leave my cell phone laying face up on my desk at work and a bit off to the side. I listen to music or podcasts a lot while I work, and when I want to change them to something different I just reach over and unlock with touchID (my face isn't in range of FaceID typically) and make the change. Another case is while in bed. I'm not saying FaceID is bad, there certainly are instances where it is faster and works better, but there are drawbacks too, and TouchID just happens to fit my use case better, so for me it's the superior solution if I had to pick one. Having both, on the other hand would allow everyone to enjoy the benefits of both.

I’m lost. So you are changing to the next song or you are changing to a completely different app or something? So from an arms length away, you unlock without looking at it, then you select another app without looking at it, then you scroll down to another band or something without looking at it, and then select the song or album you want without looking at it. All because we can’t pick up the phone. Seems a bit weird/impossible to me.

 

[The Game 161]

Having Touch ID under the screen would be nice as an option for desk use but i’ve Always found even when it’s unlocked i would still pick it up anyway.

 

[DNichter]

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[gnasher729]

What exactly would I gain from a USB-C port? One so-called "analyst" looking at keywords but without actually understanding them.
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apple is doomed if they dont start making phones that users can afford..

They are not doomed then, since there are millions and millions and millions who can afford their phones.
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The USB-C port is a 100% certainty. It's not Apple's choice to do so. It's the European Union regulator that is forcing Apple to adopt a "non-proprietary" standard. This is old news.

Nonsense. The charges must be exchangeable, and they are. The cables can be proprietary without any problem.

 

[dilbert99]

The current iPhone has the optimal camera for its size. This concludes the chapter.
I don't think you can get much more out of it.

Unfortunately DJI (instead of Apple) has now taken the next logical step: The "DJI Osmo Pocket" is a horny thing. It was immediately sold out worldwide for the Christmas business.

And the DJI will only get smaller.
I think that an add on for phones would make me ditch my DSLR.

 

[I7guy]

If you have attention awareness disabled, then yes you don’t have to have your eyes open to unlock your phone. I have it enabled, so my eyes have to be open to unlock my phone in the daytime and at night when it is pitch black and WHEN I AM LAYING DOWN! I wear glasses and sunglasses and have 0 issues unlocking my X even in direct sunlight.

That’s just like saying what if I was asleep and someone wanted to unlock my phone or purchase an app while I was asleep? All they would need is my fingerprint. Or what about when your hands are wet, have lotion or oil on them? What about when your fingers are dry? What about when you have on gloves?

In your opinion and many others, Touch ID is better and in my option and many others, Face ID is better. There are pros and cons to each and I wish more people would understand that.

These hypothetical scenarios, while hypothetically possible, haven't seen to come to pass. But I like face id as you do. Having an option for using touch id wouldn't be horrible. But I would be very surprised if apple did an about face and included under screen touch id.
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What exactly would I gain from a USB-C port? One so-called "analyst" looking at keywords but without actually understanding them.[../QUOTE]
I'd like to know what I would gain from USB-C also. Simultaneously listening to a wired headphone while charging the device? Don't I still need the same dongle?

 

[Derived]

FaceID a rush job as they couldn't do TouchID under the screen........ Confirmed.

All that’s confirmed is that this is a ridiculous, inane comment. FaceID is the most advanced facial recognition system ever put into a consumer device by a lightyear, and most likely one of the most advanced ever. Calling it a “rush job” is beyond silly. Fingerprint recognition under the glass has been something that’s been worked on for years...if it’s not ready, it’s not ready. Unless you’ve invented in your garage, I don’t see how this is a relevant point at all.

 

[iMEric984]

And Samsung are set to remove theirs this year

Didn’t Sammy already remove it from one of their mid tier phones??? A9??

 

[decafjava]

Didn’t Sammy already remove it from one of their mid tier phones??? A9??

Yes

 

[Pistol Peto]

FaceID a rush job as they couldn't do TouchID under the screen........ Confirmed.

How is it confirmed exactly?

 

[Mrjoedot]

Touch ID? Doubt

 

[TracesOfArsenic]

USB-C is a feature that would get me to finally upgrade my 7 Plus.
I went from 3G to 5s because of fingerprint scanner. I went from 5s to 7+ because of waterproofing. No feature since the 7+ has given me any reason to upgrade, but USB-C on the iPhone would do it.

No feature since the 6 has given me reason to upgrade, in fact it's been the opposite. There have been more reasons to stay with the phone I've got, and that makes me sad because I want to be excited about Apple's hardware.

Life was much easier when I could brag about Apple hardware (and software!).

 

[Patolino]

I hope they remove the rare and expansive himalayan unicorn kitten fur from the ingredients, so the price can be slashed in half for the top model. Having to sell a kidney to buy an entry level iPhone, iPad, Mac or other Apple device, is why sales are down.

 

[Tech198]

No one will leave the thing for dead will they... But Touch ID under the screen *might* be a reality someday, just not as quick as most would like it to be.

If Apple could have done it, they would have, instead of calling it 'quits'. I would reckon Apple has not given up on it at all. As there pretty good at coming back to the table with these things.

 

[nStyle]

The switch from Lightning to USB-C would almost certainly cause an uproar among at least some Apple customers, who already had to replace their docks, cables, and other accessories when Apple switched from its 30-pin dock connector to Lightning back in 2012.

When has Apple gave a damn how much its existing user base cared about the continual existence of port (ahem, headphone jack)?

They continue to prefer Lightning on iPhone because they get licensing fees from third parties. They wouldn't get anything from USB-C. That's literally the only reason they're clinging on for dear life to Lightning because USB-C is the obvious choice.

Also six years for a port is a pretty good run. You can't be mad when you buy a new phone that you might have to replace a few cables.

 

[Tech198]

When has Apple gave a damn how much its existing user base cared about the continual existence of port (ahem, headphone jack)?

They continue to prefer Lightning on iPhone because they get licensing fees from third parties. They wouldn't get anything from USB-C. That's literally the only reason they're clinging on for dear life to Lightning because USB-C is the obvious choice.

Also six years for a port is a pretty good run. You can't be mad when you buy a new phone that you might have to replace a few cables.

I disagree to a point. Apple does care abut more money, but they also care behind being left behind as well. Why do you think Apple reacts to putting new things on iPhone because either its the first ones to show others how its done, or it follows others. (They ma have not been he first ones to remove headphone jack, but *did* it eventually)

It Apple only cared abut money as the only thing they'd be less need to be for a change. But both i reckon go hand in hand.

 

[Solomani]

I hope they remove the rare and expansive himalayan unicorn kitten fur from the ingredients, so the price can be slashed in half for the top model. Having to sell a kidney to buy an entry level iPhone, iPad, Mac or other Apple device, is why sales are down.

Wrong ingredient. It's actually the blood of chocolate lab puppies that makes the products very expensive.

 

[DeepIn2U]

USB-C is a feature that would get me to finally upgrade my 7 Plus.
I went from 3G to 5s because of fingerprint scanner. I went from 5s to 7+ because of waterproofing. No feature since the 7+ has given me any reason to upgrade, but USB-C on the iPhone would do it.

Why would USB-C get you to upgrade? Fast charging will not likely get iPhones on par with so many android phones. We’ll still have 10W charging.

Wireless charging is slightly faster for 8/X/XS models.

Or do think tossing or giving up all your lightning cables will be worth it?
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Being more expensive sounds plausible. Apple is greedy hungry for more money, money, money!

Yo do know a 90’s movie with one of the Wayans brothers was done to help ya say it right.

Mo’ Money, Mo’ Money, and .... Mo’ Money!
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Get rid of the notch, put the headphone jack back in and lower the price.

If that’s all you need buy an older iPhone: 6S maybe?

 

[Mr. Dee]

I am sure chip designers would disagree. And the people working on Machine Learning within Apple might after that. And the people working on screen technology? I am sure all of them would disagree with you.

If there is one company that stinks at AI, Machine Learning right now, its Apple.