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Guess what... iPhones supported wireless audio loooong before the iPhone 7. Removing the CD ROM had definite benefits because it did make notebooks thinner, lighter, and eliminated many mechanical components.

Since most people will use whatever headphones are bundled with the device, if Apple really just cared about making the wireless future a reality all they had to do was bundle Airpods.
Expect AirPods bundled with the iPhone in a few years. Also, the CD-ROM wasn't very necessary at the time Apple eliminated it.
 
running into a building that is burning to the ground to save someone is stupid. it's putting two lives at risk instead of the one inside and doesn't change my point.

However, I appreciate that these folks do this. it IS couragious, even by my definition and I am thankful for all of our first responders who regularly risk their lives to save those in need. (and of the police and firepeople I know, they would agree, what they do is often reckless and stupid, but it's part of the job to save lives)


I'm not sure what an animal doctor has to do with anything though.

Sorry, not taking the bait.

Nice try, though.
 
Sorry, not taking the bait.

Nice try, though.
what bait? I dont understand?

You meant veterans didn't you.. not veterinarians..

No bait intended, I just had a ridiculously stupid self moment.
 
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unless you've been living under a rock, OP is "pure Android" done correctly. Google with pure android is a great experience but not awesome. OP has skinned pure Android to give you a much better user experience in standby, performance, and overall battery life
LOL. It’s not pure Android if it’s not getting updates straight from Google. You cannot say anything else other than Pixel or Android One to have pure Android. Unskinned or minimally skinned, yes, but not pure. Check the definition of pure.
[doublepost=1526518075][/doublepost]The OnePlus One was a true flagship killer with flagship spec, original design, and $299 price tag.

Now, this OnePlus is just a value flagship, with copycat design and so so price. $530 is still not bad, but a far cry from the original at $299.

At $299 ($349 for the 64GB), the OnePlus One was an easy decision to get. At $530, it’s tougher to swallow as outside the SoC, many phones at around $300 or so have similar features and great performance with Snapdragon 636 and 660 (where the mid rangers finally get the kyro cores).
 
Why would any design department be dumb enough to purposely follow apple with that stupid notch design?
Because they don’t actually have a design department. After the awesome OnePlus One, OnePlus literally just become a copycat in terms of design. Can’t blame them, it’s their nature (OPPO phones are all iPhone copycats).
 
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Because they don’t actually have a design department. After the awesome OnePlus One, OnePlus literally just become a copycat in terms of design. Can’t blame them, it’s their nature (OPPO phones are all iPhone copycats).

The OnePlus was a real refreshing take. The OnePlus2 was... OK. the 3 wasn't bad

but the 4? and now the 5? OnePlus lost all of what they had that made them a unique underdog and are now just HTC v2.0
 
about the same thing when Apple poked fun at others.

it's just bad advertising for any company regardless of whose doing it. your products should stand on their own without the need to attack the competition directly.

"one does not make themselves taller by cutting off the feet of others"
It’s more about who you are when you say it. Small competitors have nothing to lose so they will throw any insults at industry leaders just to be mentioned in the same sentence as them. Companies like Apple rarely reference their competition, much less mention them by name because they only stand to give their competitors free advertising and appear to be threatened by them.
 
They can poke fun all they like. Still doesn't make them outsell iPhone. Who is this one plus anyway?
 
Here's to all the cavemen still asking for the jack:
The jack is the only tech from the 1860s in modern day smartphones. What can the 3.5mm jack do that Bluetooth can’t do ? In fact, Bluetooth can do anything the jack does, and so much more. Let’s compare:


Can I walk away 50m with the phone while being connected to multiple speakers ? Vice versa, can I have multi phones and devices connected to a single speaker or pair of headphones ? Battery life of Bluetooth headphones average about 20-30 hours, which is good enough that you only need to charge them once a week for 2 hours.


On the other hands, wired headphones tangle, the cables fray and break. Not all plugs are gold plated, and get rusty, leading to poor sound quality over time. Plugging in the dark ? Yuck. Share music with a friend ? Dongle. And bike or ANY other sport with wired earphones ? Break a leg ! For home speakers, every connection requires a cable and 2 jacks, and that adds up for every speaker added, which is a hazard. Imagine if these speakers get rid of the jack and connect via wifi, you can move them anywhere you like, and tidying the room is so much easier.


Some would argue that smartphone can have Bluetooth and doesn’t have to remove the headphone jack. But considering that Bluetooth does everything the jack does, plus so much more, there is no point keeping the jack. It’s like having both a nokia 3310 and a 2018 smartphone, which one will be used more obviously ? Keeping the jack will only satisfy luddites who still currently own wired headphones, which will then break, and they will find that, no phones offer the jack anymore on the market. It is the inevitable future, because otherwise it would be ridiculous to ask for the jack 100 years from now. Might as well ride a horsecart while everyone else drives Tesla.


And many people accuse iPhone users blindly follow Apple and embrace Bluetooth. This can be hypocritical and applied the other way: manufacturers like Samsung have been keeping users back from enjoying the wireless future, enforcing ideas that the jack, a 1860 technology, is ok in 2018, and make a big deal out of it in their keynote. Bluetooth is updated every 1 or 2 years, with new features, higher bandwidth, better power efficiency. When is the last time an improvement came to the jack ? 1990 ?


This article has, so far, discussed the usecases of a consumer, and has yet to mention anything on professional audio and video producers. In a few words, the jack has no place in the pro-market either, because Usb-C is taking over with many more times the bandwidth and better frequency response. A professional who chooses to stick to the jack will only limit the quality and potential of his production.
 
Why would any design department be dumb enough to purposely follow apple with that stupid notch design?

You seem like someone who just needs to be observed to have someone think “If I want success, I should do the opposite of that guy!”.
 
So? How does that make the removal of the headphone jack any less stupid? That's the single thing I absolutely hate about my iPhone 7.
The numbers mean more people are ok with bluetooth. You are a minority of those who can't accept the inevitable wireless future. But it's ok. Manufacturers do not care about the minority.
 
I’d respond to your snide remark but I’m not going to waste my AOL minutes on the likes of you.

But apparently you did anyway? At least your dial up modem appears to still be working so that’s a plus.
 
Here's to all the cavemen still asking for the jack:
The jack is the only tech from the 1860s in modern day smartphones. What can the 3.5mm jack do that Bluetooth can’t do ? In fact, Bluetooth can do anything the jack does, and so much more. Let’s compare:


Can I walk away 50m with the phone while being connected to multiple speakers ? Vice versa, can I have multi phones and devices connected to a single speaker or pair of headphones ? Battery life of Bluetooth headphones average about 20-30 hours, which is good enough that you only need to charge them once a week for 2 hours.


On the other hands, wired headphones tangle, the cables fray and break. Not all plugs are gold plated, and get rusty, leading to poor sound quality over time. Plugging in the dark ? Yuck. Share music with a friend ? Dongle. And bike or ANY other sport with wired earphones ? Break a leg ! For home speakers, every connection requires a cable and 2 jacks, and that adds up for every speaker added, which is a hazard. Imagine if these speakers get rid of the jack and connect via wifi, you can move them anywhere you like, and tidying the room is so much easier.


Some would argue that smartphone can have Bluetooth and doesn’t have to remove the headphone jack. But considering that Bluetooth does everything the jack does, plus so much more, there is no point keeping the jack. It’s like having both a nokia 3310 and a 2018 smartphone, which one will be used more obviously ? Keeping the jack will only satisfy luddites who still currently own wired headphones, which will then break, and they will find that, no phones offer the jack anymore on the market. It is the inevitable future, because otherwise it would be ridiculous to ask for the jack 100 years from now. Might as well ride a horsecart while everyone else drives Tesla.


And many people accuse iPhone users blindly follow Apple and embrace Bluetooth. This can be hypocritical and applied the other way: manufacturers like Samsung have been keeping users back from enjoying the wireless future, enforcing ideas that the jack, a 1860 technology, is ok in 2018, and make a big deal out of it in their keynote. Bluetooth is updated every 1 or 2 years, with new features, higher bandwidth, better power efficiency. When is the last time an improvement came to the jack ? 1990 ?


This article has, so far, discussed the usecases of a consumer, and has yet to mention anything on professional audio and video producers. In a few words, the jack has no place in the pro-market either, because Usb-C is taking over with many more times the bandwidth and better frequency response. A professional who chooses to stick to the jack will only limit the quality and potential of his production.


Jesus, this is long-winded. I apologize if I cover something mention, but I got bored after the first or second paragraph. Can Bluetooth stream lossless audio at full quality? Are there are ton of studio standard headphones out there that support USB C or Bluetooth?

Had Apple left the headphone jack and everyone else abandoned it, you'd be on here talking up the benefits of wired vs. wireless and how Apple's decision to keep it was "brave" (not your word, but another poster's) for including it while everyone else abandoned it.
 
Still one of the stupidest decisions Apple has made-along with getting rid of Magsafe.

I didn’t like the idea of losing the headphone jack but now I’ve got AirPods I really couldn’t care less. Best Apple product in years has compensated for the fact in droves.

MagSafe definitely was a bad move though. Sticking with my 2015 MBP for as long as possible.
 
so what is the real benefit for removing the headphone jack? would it have hurt anything keeping it?

it wasn't stopping folks from using bluetooth headphones
 
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