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Since using Bose Bluetooth Headphones - a once in many years investment - I came to the conclusion that a headphone jack really is obsolete.
Earlier today in the gym I was using my wired earbuds to connect to the TV monitors that are installed on bikes, treadmills etc. and I thought: "How would I do it with BT earbuds?".
 
With the price creep every year? Probably closer to 550-600$ this time next year.

Even so, with AC+ the X cost me $1500 :O
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It's already been almost 2 years since the iPhone 7 did. So I totally disagree. The headphone jack is practical, universal, higher quality, and doesn't need batteries.

Funny story. My sister was trying to listen to something on her computer at work and said, "oh I will just use the headphones that came with the iPhone X" (of course she didn't have the adapter).
 
Nothing gained by removing the headphone jack? Are you kidding?
Replacing my wired phone with a 20ft cable with a cordless phone gained nothing, it was fine!
Replacing my car ignition key slot with a keyless start gained nothing, it was fine!
Replacing my horse and buggy with an automobile gained nothing, it was fine!
Do you still want your floppy disk drive on your computer? I bet your computer doesn't even have a CD player anymore. Come on.

Sometimes you just need to progress! Wireless headphones/anything has HUGE advantages. And by keeping the jack promotes complacency in keep using it. Sometimes you just need to force people to use a better technology for it to really catch hold and literally push society forward. I congratulate apple and apologize for the people stuck in the past.

If Bluetooth is the future and in particular Apple Airpods, (which by all accounts do not fall out even with the most vigorous of activities) why do on-stage performers not use Airpods or other Bluetooth earphones as their IEMs ?
 
Even so, with AC+ the X cost me $1500 :O
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Funny story. My sister was trying to listen to something on her computer at work and said, "oh I will just use the headphones that came with the iPhone X" (of course she didn't have the adapter).

I was just pointing out that the days of the 400$ flagship are dead and buried.

Edit: And that adapter wouldn't have helped your sister. The headphone adapter is for plugging traditional headphones into the X. It does nothing for lighting to 3.5.
 
The DACs build into these phones with headphone jacks are Crap. I have wired headphone plugged into a portable hifi DAC and it is so much better that any headphone jack on these phone's. The headphone jack is dead people. Apple should supply AirPods with the iPhone for free tho.

What a narrow viewpoint to think EVERYONE is an audiophile and carries around a portable, battery powered DAC just to listen to music on their $500+ headphones.

The headphone jack may be dead to you people who think you have golden ears, but for the majority of the people just want to plug in their "crap" headphones without needing to have that ridiculous adapter handy.

The point being made here is that there should be room for BOTH jacks to appease everyone.

re: included Airpods...I wouldn't be caught dead with those ridiculous things dangling from my ears. Stupidest looking thing Apple has made. At least make them black so they don't stand out!
 
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What a narrow viewpoint to think EVERYONE is an audiophile and carries around a portable, battery powered DAC just to listen to music on their $500+ headphones.

The headphone jack may be dead to you people who think you have golden ears, but for the majority of the people just want to plug in their "crap" headphones without needing to have that ridiculous adapter handy.

The point being made here is that there should be room for BOTH jacks to appease everyone.

Most people probably just use whatever came in the box.
 
Most people probably just use whatever came in the box.
Agreed,, but I was addressing the posters comment about the headphone jack being dead. Not iPhones in particular. There are jack-less Android phones, also that just come with a USB-C port.
 
Agreed,, but I was addressing the posters comment about the headphone jack being dead. Not iPhones in particular. There are jack-less Android phones, also that just come with a USB-C port.

That reminds me. I'm kind of miffed that the roughly 900$ Pixel 2XL only comes with an adapter and no headphones while the P20 Pro has both, a thin case, and a pre applied screen protector.
 
I had to flip my phone over when I read the headline because I hadn’t even thought of a jack since I got my new phone. There wasn’t one there but obviously, I don’t need it!


I don't miss the jack either, Robbie.

Each and every quarter, since the launch of the iPhone 7 (6), Apple has sold multi-millions of iPhones. Sales HAVE NOT been negatively impacted by the lack of a 3.5mm mini jack.

I don't miss it and apparently, the millions of iPhone 7 (and later) buyers haven't either.

Those complaining have a need to complain about something. I'm sure Apple considered this super micro-slice of the iPhone market and correctly decided to ignore them, just as it did when they abandoned 3.5" floppy drives and optical drives.

Continued complaints are, at best, tiresome.
 
The DACs build into these phones with headphone jacks are Crap. I have wired headphone plugged into a portable hifi DAC and it is so much better that any headphone jack on these phone's. The headphone jack is dead people. Apple should supply AirPods with the iPhone for free tho.
I do the same thing - external DAC/amp for my laptop. But the headphone jack allows me to use the same headphones with my phone.

Edit- And an adapter is a no go as I would be constantly disconnecting it and it would easily get lost.
 
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Everything moves towards having no cables.
Eventually cables will cease to exist, so who cares about a headphone jack?
 
If you are designing a smartphone with a front facing camera and and super thin bezels on all sides, you really don't have any choice in the matter. The front facing camera and speaker phone, as well as the proximity sensors etc need to go somewhere on the front.
Hilariously wrong
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Probably any design department not too dumb to realize the notch allows for more screen space, all things equal.

More interrupted unorganic totally irrational space? Uh ok
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In retrospect, I think notch is a good design. Yes, it looks funky in landscape. But you are gaining extra display area. And at least on Android, the display area around the notch can be turned off.

I suspect in few years, a majority of the phones will have a notch (unless they can make camera and other sensors much smaller or place them behind the screen).

Gaining? Lol you’re not gaining anything. You’re losing the space to the notch. Screens have never ever meant to have odd shaped spacial interruptions like that. What if TVs came with notches? Macbook Pros? Movie theater screens?
 
After a very low threshold, most people don’t really care about sound quality. That’s why I find the HomePod situation funny: Apple tried to justify the price because of sound quality. HomePods are NOT high end speakers..

No, they are 24/7 data collection devices.
 
Why would any design department be dumb enough to purposely follow apple with that stupid notch design?

To get as much usable screen area on the device that is practically possible given the current level of tech?
I like to thin of is as EXTRA screen space, and not a notch cut into a screen.

Without it, those areas would be just dead blank zones, at least the screen is now pushed up into the corners.
Te nice thing with this phone is, if you don't like it visually, you can turn it off and effectively have your top bezel back.

We'll be stuck with this compromise for quite a few years I imagine, until either their is behind the screen tech, or pop up from the top items, like someone else demo'd on a prototype recently.
 
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I love my AirPods. It can coexist with a headphone jack. They’re not mutually exclusive. But alas it doesn’t make a difference. Until iMessage is on android I will be an iPhone user for the foreseeable future.
 
No, they are 24/7 data collection devices.

That’s open for debate, but even if you’re right it’s a 24/7 data collection device that costs you 10x what the other companies collection devices cost. And sound quality is the official excuse as to why it’s so much more expensive.
 
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Another cheap, Chinese iPhone clone. The keynote was so awkward that hard to watch. The most interesting thing I learnt, according to latest OnePlus research Windows Phone has higher customer satisfaction rate than iOS .
 
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