OnePlus Mocks Removal of Headphone Jack in iPhone 7 While Copying its Design for New OnePlus 5

[AZ63]

Put for people that won't convenience it's easy.

What?
If you think that is the only use case for a headphone jack you may want to think twice.
If you think everyone has the money you apparently do, you may want to consider others as well.
Making it easier and more convenient for everyone to use doesn't stop you from using it the way you want to use it.

 

[SSDGUY]

I haven't used the headphone socket either on my iPad Air2 or my iPhone 6 since I got my iPhone 6.
I like quality sound and I take the sound out through the lightening socket into a Cyrus Soundkey and a pair of B&W earphones.
I wish Apple went the whole hog and enabled devises like the Cyrus Soundkey to connect directly to the lightening socket rather than via the unweildy second generation Camera Adaptor.
If you do away with the headphone socket Apple then make it easy to hear true high quality sound without a big bulky Camera Adaptor.

For folks like me that live in the world of live sound gear, the lack of a 3.5mm jack can really suck for many applications. Unless you carry around a dongle, you're sunk.

 

[AZ63]

Why so triggered about a personal opinion?

Did you rant when Steve Jobs forced HTML5 because the iPad didn't have Flash? Did you rant when they removed optical drive from the Mac?

What I wrote was not a rant but a response to your opinion. Do you get triggered by a question?
Just wondering if you understood is all.
Is a question too much for you to take?

 

[LordVic]

Samsung did make a faux pas with the loss of their IR blaster on the S6. Bad move. Otherwise they've put common sense before course. So far at least. But a TV remote on your phone is/was cool and a mistake to drop.

I still use mine on my S6 since my TV doesn't support control via HDMI,

but I think Samsung is currently betting on most people over the last 3 years have a TV that now supports basic CEC (which has been around for about a decade now).

Didn't think about that really until now though. Any phone i buy today, I'd lose that IR blaster.

 

[FrenchRoasted]

Hearing (get it?) the same arguments (justifications) about the loss of the headphone jack as before. All digital signals turn into analog sound waves at our ears, so wireless airpods or lightning connector ear phones are not magically better. Face it, we lost some functionality, the significance being in the ear of the beholder.

 

[trellus]

What?
If you think that is the only use case for a headphone jack you may want to think twice.
If you think everyone has the money you apparently do, you may want to consider others as well.
Making it easier and more convenient for everyone to use doesn't stop you from using it the way you want to use it.

I think it is true that a lot of people who use the iPhone don't miss the headphone jack, or miss it very little, and Apple did their homework on this, and knew that it would lose only a small percentage of people that do use it, and the rest of us would just deal with it.

It just annoys me because it reduces the usability (something that Apple is known for!) without much gained for that tradeoff in usability, and in the process annoying some of their most loyal users rather unnecessarily, in my view.

 

[LordVic]

Put for people that won't convenience it's easy. You just plug the adapter onto your cheap headphones and leave it there. Forget about it. Job done.

It's been 7 months now and not having a headphone adapter has literally caught me out zero times.

but I typically use the same cheap headphones in multiple devices.

so it's really not convenient to leave the dongle attached to the headphones. Nor the phone.

so there we are, still stuck at that same place. Dongle Life. it's an added potential inconvenience, with no real upside.

 

[Nueve]

They're also cheating on their benchmarks according to XDA Developers
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5-benchmark-cheating-reviews/

 

[WiseAJ]

That doesn't work when the use case isn't headphones or your device at all. For example, when I visited my mother, I plugged my phone into her stereo, and it doesn't have bluetooth, so that required a cable.

I might also be in a friend's car (that doesn't have Bluetooth but has an 3.5mm Aux input and cable) and wanted to share a podcast or music... and who always has a dongle in their pocket?

Is that a dongle in your pocket or are you just happy to see me

 

[OTACORB]

Like Apple is really worried or concerned about these jokers. Apple sells more phones in a couple of weeks than they do in a year.

 

[1050792]

Is that the new Iphone?
- No it's a Oneplus 5
Oh.. (Awkward silence).

This joke presentation can't even be taken seriously.

 

[SSDGUY]

Put for people that won't convenience it's easy. You just plug the adapter onto your cheap headphones and leave it there. Forget about it. Job done.

It's been 7 months now and not having a headphone adapter has literally caught me out zero times.

Headphones with 3.5mm plugs are certainly not always "cheap headphones." A $1,000+ set of custom in-ear monitors will have a 3.5mm plug, and they will for many more years. Those in professional audio who use their phones to connect to other audio gear loathe the absence of a headphone jack, and having to monkey with dongles.

 

[jase1125]

Apple deserves to get trolled since they stupidly removed the headphone jack. The courage of their idiocy resulted in this...

 

[Pamela5]

I'm still not used to using the headphone adapter on my iPhone 7 plus. It's not a deal breaker for me buying an iPhone, however it's an annoying flaw that I find inexcusable on a phone that might be thin but is still way too tall with wasted space for a phone at its price range in 2017 to supposedly not have room for a headphone jack.

 

[redscull]

All I want is headphones that have more than 2 channels, and be able to do something like a pseudo-surround sound system.

For that the 3.5mm jack is obsolete.

How many channels does your head have?

 

[pika2000]

LOL. This jab is not specifically at Apple. This is aimed at Xiaomi, who has the Snapdragon 835 Mi6 that is even cheaper than the OnePlus5, so I guess OnePlus got defensive. The Mi6 did ditch the headphone jack.

 

[mib1800]

I think it is true that a lot of people who use the iPhone don't miss the headphone jack, or miss it very little, and Apple did their homework on this, and knew that it would lose only a small percentage of people that do use it, and the rest of us would just deal with it.

It just annoys me because it reduces the usability (something that Apple is known for!) without much gained for that tradeoff in usability, and in the process annoying some of their most loyal users rather unnecessarily, in my view.

Don't know how true is this but I read Apple remove the headphone jack so it doesnt need to pay (miniscule) royalty like 0.1 cents per jack. Now without the headphone jack Apple can then charge accessories makers 40cents to a dollar per cable that uses the proprietary lightning connector. So all the wired earphone makers have to pay apple now if they include the jack to lightning dongle in the sales package.

 

[canadianreader]

OnePlus 5 (iPhone 7 Plus Edition)

 

[appleman1988]

Not having a jack on my 7 Plus doesn't bother me a bit. I feel wireless audio (bluetooth) sounds better anyway.

 

[jsmith189]

What? Did I read this correctly "...threw some shade..."?

Ugh. What is this Entertainment Weekly or US magazine? Is the writer in their late teens/early twenties?


Yes; I'm a curmudgeon.

It's even funnier to me that THIS is where people think throwing shade comes from.

 

[mach]

This phone sucks, but Apple still deserves any and all flak for removing the headphone jack.

Completely user-hostile move that isn't ushering any wireless era in, and other manufacturers are proving apple's claim it was needed to waterproof the phone is BS.

Maybe it would have made some sense if the AirPods were included in the box. I hate that I can't use my lightning headphones on my computer, I hate that I can't charge my phone while listening to music.

 

[DaneDeMuth]

Damn. Mocking the IPhone 7's lack of an audio jack by... *Jacking* the Iphone 7's aesthetics, even down to copying the entire back of the device. Well thats pretty neat Google!

 

[jimbo1mcm]

When your One plus 5 breaks, just call.....um, or bring it into your local One Plus 5 retail store.....oh wait. Hmmm.

 

[Nabby51]

When your One plus 5 breaks, just call.....um, or bring it into your local One Plus 5 retail store.....oh wait. Hmmm.

In my area it could take days to get an appointment at an Apple store. While it is better it's not perfect.

As for the mocking of Apple about the lack of a headphone jack... I kind of agree. I have Airpods and they don't always connect properly. They are downright horrible at connecting sometimes. I tried about 20 minutes ago to connect them to my iPhone 6s Plus while in a call and they refused to connect. I set them aside for a few minutes and then tried again and it worked. When they work it's awesome but it fails around 1 in 5 times for me and that is frustrating.

 

[Jsameds]

How many channels does your head have?

Not a simple question. There are two direct inputs, sure, but the fleshy part of the ear changes this.

The shape of the ear allows us to distinguish 3D sound, if you like. The way sound waves bounce off the ear when they approach from different directions changes the way things sound. This is why you can determine the exact location of something in a 3D space but with just two ears - including whether a sound is coming from above you or below you despite both ears being horizontal to each other.

So the answer to your question is how accurately we can determine location. If the "resolution" of our ears is one rotational degree, and there are three plains of movement, then there are 360 cubed channels in our head, which is 46m channels.

Although the actual resolution is probably a lot lower (as I haven't done a study into this), it is certainly a lot higher than the two channels you were insinuating.