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No word?

You call the Buyer's Guide switching from "Buy Only if You Need It" to "Don't Buy - Updates soon" no word?

Are you saying you don't trust an automated routine that changes the message based on the average number of days since last refresh? :D
 
I hope you mean...

Redesigned Mighty Mouse = Potential Win
Current Mighty Mouse = Fail

Yes, I suppose that would be a tad more realistic. Doesn't bother me though, I brought over my Logitech MX518 from my PC when I bought a Mac :)
 
To me this is just funny. As I said from the beginning - no new iMacs or Minis until next year when new chips are available. It makes no sense to keep saying, day after day, after day, "what, no invites?". Of course not! That's because there are no new mobile chips - at best, they'd be able to do a small speed bump, and no way in the world are they going to do a major re-design and a big event with invitations, all just for a speed bump!

PEOPLE, IT IS NOT HAPPENING!!

Now get it through your head. If you really want new machines, wait until next year - until then, you can safely ignore the hoopla by the hardcore fans who whip themselves into a froth based on nothing much but seasonal shortages.
This post is so wrong that it makes me think it was made to invoke a response. So, you win, you've got a reply.

"...because there are no new mobile chips..."

Well, not since a few weeks ago. ;)

Haven't you heard about Intel's new Core i7 MOBILE? This chip is so NEW that products using it still haven't shipped. I'd estimate that the first PC products using the Core i7 Mobile will begin to reach customers around Oct. 22, so that means Apple will probably announce new iMacs based upon this chip during that same week (Tuesday, Oct. 20 or perhaps Oct. 27).

Now the Core i7 Mobile isn't going to be used in a MacBook or Mac mini, but IMO it's practically guaranteed to be in the new iMac.
 
Haven't you heard about Intel's new Core i7 MOBILE? This chip is so NEW that products using it still haven't shipped. I'd estimate that the first PC products using the Core i7 Mobile will begin to reach customers around Oct. 22, so that means Apple will probably announce new iMacs based upon this chip during that same week (Tuesday, Oct. 20 or perhaps Oct. 27).

this makes sense, Core i7 mobile CPUs may not be available in large quantities yet, that also gives a clue it is going to be Core i7 Quad in iMacs!

hope this delay is for good reason! :D
 
fpnc said:
Now the Core i7 Mobile isn't going to be used in a MacBook or Mac mini...

Why not ? :confused:

Probably because they require too much power for the MacBooks and Apple isn't going to put such an expensive and high-performance (for mobile) chip in the Mac mini.

Note that the Core i7 Mobile has a thermal design point (TDP) of 45W and the current MacBook Pros top out at 35W with the 3.06GHz Core 2 Duo (T9900). Preliminary testing done on Intel's notebook prototype using the Core i7 Mobile show less than one hour of battery runtime (admittedly, however, the shipping products will do somewhat better). In any case, the Core i7 Mobile is designed for big and heavy desktop replacement notebooks, not the thin and light MacBooks.

I'm fairly certain that Apple will use next year's Arrandale processor in the MacBook Pro. This is dual-core (four-thread) and will be a nice upgrade over the Core 2 Duo while offering a battery life that should be as good as or better than the current products.
 
Probably because they require too much power for the MacBooks and Apple isn't going to put such an expensive and high-performance (for mobile) chip in the Mac mini.

Note that the Core i7 Mobile has a thermal design point (TDP) of 45W and the current MacBook Pros top out at 35W with the 3.06GHz Core 2 Duo (T9900). Preliminary testing done on Intel's notebook prototype using the Core i7 Mobile show less than one hour of battery runtime (admittedly, however, the shipping products will do somewhat better). In any case, the Core i7 Mobile is designed for big and heavy desktop replacement notebooks, not the thin and light MacBooks.

I'm fairly certain that Apple will use next year's Arrandale processor in the MacBook Pro. This is dual-core (four-thread) and will be a nice upgrade over the Core 2 Duo while offering a battery life that should be as good as or better than the current products.


The graphics card will be the kicker in the 13" pro. They will either need to figure out a way to squeeze dedicated graphics otherwise AMD might be looked at. Intel graphics are a no go for me if im spending anywhere near four figures.

I was tired of this waiting game, I ordered my referb pro with the edu discount. If something drastic changes Ill return it. I just need another computer.
 
Newbie alert! Gee, four comments, all negative. I wonder . . .

fanboy alert on your side maybe?
i say things the way they are at my posts. Try to tell me they are not that way and i will proove you wrong using about 2-3 sentences.....
 
Let’s hope some good Minis are coming up. They had me bring my MBP to work a few times for testing sites, maybe it’s better if we have a Mac there.
 
Not sure if it means much, but this weekend here in New Zealand the Magnum Mac stores (the closest we get to an official Apple Store) are selling off "ex-demo and open box" computers and old model iPods ... it might mean they're expecting new demo machines soon, or as always, it could just be Snow Leopard models though since they shop displays are still running Leopard.
 
If there's not going to be a MacBook Pro bump, I hope Apple at least re-calibrates the Canadian price. The dollar has steadily gone up recently, so the Canadian price is about $150 too high.
 
Something is coming out. I pressed a Best Buy Apple Genius who tried to tell me no new computers until next spring, then recanted and admitted something was coming out but he wasn't allowed to talk about it.
 
Something is coming out. I pressed a Best Buy Apple Genius who tried to tell me no new computers until next spring, then recanted and admitted something was coming out but he wasn't allowed to talk about it.

Haha was it a Geek Squad Agent from Best Buy or a Apple Genius?
 
I've talked to several apple salesmen on the chat feature at apple.com and they usually just say "we don't talk about future products". So either they know but can't talk about it, or apple keeps them in the dark. Interesting to note though, some of them are more open to conversation, i've got 2 of them to tell me where they're stationed ;)
 
Alot of people think they are going to stay Core 2 Duo, and some think they are going to go for the Core 7 Mobile. But the former are two oldy moldy to last into Spring and the latter is too new and weird (1.8 to 3.0 Ghz variable = marketing fun).

I wonder if they might split the middle and do a Core 2 Quad, like Dell's AIO, then pick up a more refined mod Quad in the Spring.
 
Not sure if it means much, but this weekend here in New Zealand the Magnum Mac stores (the closest we get to an official Apple Store) are selling off "ex-demo and open box" computers and old model iPods ... it might mean they're expecting new demo machines soon, or as always, it could just be Snow Leopard models though since they shop displays are still running Leopard.

You actually go near Magnum Mac stores!?

I'd avoid giving any money to Renaissance NZ if they didn't own Natcoll.
 
Alot of people think they are going to stay Core 2 Duo, and some think they are going to go for the Core 7 Mobile. But the former are two oldy moldy to last into Spring and the latter is too new and weird (1.8 to 3.0 Ghz variable = marketing fun).

I wonder if they might split the middle and do a Core 2 Quad, like Dell's AIO, then pick up a more refined mod Quad in the Spring.
The new Core i7 Mobile is neither "weird" nor "marketing fun." It's Intel's next generation mobile platform and it's as good as it's going to get for products like the iMac for probably the next year (other than speed bumps and price reductions on same). The only real alternative to the Core i7 Mobile is the dual-core Arrandale processor that is shipping sometime early next year. But Arrandale will be a lower performance chip than is the Core i7 Mobile.

Intel's Turbo Boost Technology (what you refer to as "1.8 to 3.0 Ghz variable = marketing fun") is really what makes quad cores palatable in consumer-focused products like the iMac. Otherwise, many users would be just as well served by a fast dual core chip like today's Core 2 Duo.

If you'd like to see some background on this I'd suggest looking at the following two articles over on AnandTech.

Technical overview and benchmarks on the Intel Core i7 Mobile

http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3647

The following compares Apple's 3.06GHz iMac against Dell's quad-core all-in-one (2.33GHz Core 2 Quad Q8200).

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3446&p=7
 
Technical overview and benchmarks on the Intel Core i7 Mobile

http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3647

The following compares Apple's 3.06GHz iMac against Dell's quad-core all-in-one (2.33GHz Core 2 Quad Q8200).

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3446&p=7

It seems to me like there's no big difference between the two - except one is industry standard and one is two cores too many compared to what most people write apps for ..

Oh, and it's TOTAL marketing hell to advertise for a product that has a 1.8-3.0 ghz processor compared to a 3.0 ghz machine
 
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