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OS X 10.3.9 7W82 seeded to developers

ogun7 said:
what appears to be a final build (7W82) of 10.3.9 has been seeded to Apple's developers.

this is a different build because it supports the new PowerMacs being announced at the WWDC

It's a new hardware build.
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Joking? Why would they seed it now when none of their developers have these new PowerMacs? I reckon it's a bit early for that.
 
If this is the Combo readme, then don't expect better graphics drivers than 10.3.8. (And I understand that BEFORE 10.3.8, Doom 3 was essentially unplayable. 10.3.8 was tweaked just for Doom supposedly.)

Another driver update so soon is possible, but the readme doesn't tell us that.
 
Who is Cafemacs....i have never heard of these people before. Well for all i know the more rumor sites the merrier.

DjVoTeZ
 
- iPods connected via USB 2.0 are now recognized by iTunes and iSync

Now the iPod fully supports USB 2.0! 🙂 But it's still slower than FireWire 400... 😉
 
Uh, then, in your opinion, 10.3.9 = 1.3.9 ?

I agree when there are one dot, 10.30 = 10.3 and so on
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Um, yeah, not really.

10.3.9 does NOT equal 1.3.9

There's no decimal point in front of the 10.

If there was, that would mean we went back in time to OS .1.3.9.

Wow, my PowerBook can't boot OS 9, but it can boot PRE-OS 1?

That's frickin amazing!

Although, imagine the boot time on .1.3.9! 2 seconds flat?
 
vouder17 said:
Who is Cafemacs....i have never heard of these people before. Well for all i know the more rumor sites the merrier.

DjVoTeZ
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I think it is a bunch of former spymacers. May be wrong, but I seem to remember this being the case.

On a separate note, I can't believe we're have the 10.3.10 nomenclature discussion again.
 
VicMacs said:
didnt 10.2.8 come after panther?
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Yes, Jaguar 10.2.8 did come after the release of Panther 10.3.

My bet is that we will see a 10.3.10 update eventually, maybe even a 10.3.11 update. And since those "dots" or "points" are not actual mathematical decimal points, but just separators, then any number can be placed in any part.
 
AliensAreFuzzy said:
I certainly hope so. I can read of the drive fine, but I really wish I could write to it because I've got a 160GB drive that is formatted for my Windows machine that I would love to use for my new Mac Mini too.
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Why not format the drive in the mac and use MacDrive in windows?

I have a bunch of external drives I want to use both with my mac and windows. I use mac filesystem + Macdrive in windows.

Just a hint
 
spaceballl said:
Bluetooth compatibility of phones eh? Does this mean that us Moto users are going to finally benefit from the "great relationship" Motorola has with Apple. Ugh... I can't believe bluetooth sync is still not functional.
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No, it doesn't mean your Motorola phone will work with iSync. The phone's bluetooth syncing (at least in the case of the v710) is disabled at the hardware level. Motorola would have to write a firmware updater for the phone. There's nothing Apple can do about it.

Anyway, simX is right, and the only significance of this rumor is that another seed of 10.3.9 is out there, while the details of what's included in 10.3.9 are absolutely nothing newsworthy because it's just a description of what was in the 10.3.1-10.3.8 updates.
 
AliensAreFuzzy said:
I certainly hope so. I can read of the drive fine, but I really wish I could write to it because I've got a 160GB drive that is formatted for my Windows machine that I would love to use for my new Mac Mini too.
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Haha that sounds like my setup, too bad I already moved all my files off of the external and formatted it using Mac OS Ex and lossing about 40 GBs worth of video in the process of transfering but oh well. If it is NTFS write supported that I might just format it back so I could use it on PeeCees without MacDrive. Good news indeed.
 
sacear said:
Yes, Jaguar 10.2.8 did come after the release of Panther 10.3.
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Not that it really matters, but I'm sure 10.2.8 came before Panther. There was a release of 10.2.8 (around 22 September 2003) that got pulled for various reasons. It was re-released on 3 October 2003.

The commercial release of Panther was on 24 October 2003.
 
Would be very nice with that NTFS update so OS X can read and write in windows volumes.

External HDD's would do great good from this 🙄
 
Wow, that's a big update. I thought we already had iPod USB 2 support? I thought that came with 10.3.4?

NTFS support is a biggie though. Nice to see Apple continuing to increase compatibility with Windows. And the improved networking is always good, because it is still rather flaky at the moment.
 
BWhaler said:
I think it is a bunch of former spymacers. May be wrong, but I seem to remember this being the case.
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Nope, I'm the owner of Café Macs... never was around Spymac. Café Macs has been open almost a year (June 28 is a year).
 
digitalbiker said:
This update sounds great if it makes a difference. I just haven't seen the improvements in the last few updates.

Also for you users that use .Mac and the iDisk, are you as annoyed as I am about the way that uploads to the public folder work as clumsy as they do.

If I drag a file to my iDisk it exhibits the following behavior.

1) Displays a blue progress bar which rapidly reports the byte tranfer of the file to the iDisk even though no bytes are actually transfer at this stage. example 200 mb file transfers in 2 seconds even though the file on iDisk is only a few kilobits in size.

2) Displays a constantly turning sideways blue barber pole with the message "finishing up please wait". Depending on the size of the file being transfered the wait can be a few minutes to hours. No progress bar is present to let you know where you are in the file transfer.

This is really annoying and misleading! You never know the status of the actual transfer and if you terminate the process early, you will corrupt the transfered file and have to wait at least 15 minutes before you can delete the file from your iDisk and try all over again.
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Thank you, having to use idisk on a regular basis that really annoys me, I just wish that transferring in tiger will be like it is on windows using the idisk utility.
 
narco said:
So does this mean that Tiger won't come out in a couple weeks?

Fishes,
narco.
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Why?

Apple released 10.2.8 on 9/22/03 and re-released the fixed version on 10/3/03.

Panther was released on 10/24/03.

I don't think these 2 items are related in any way. Tiger will ship soon and Apple is readying the final release of Panther (except Security Updates).
 
Abstract said:
When I do a clean install using the Tiger Upgrade disks, do I need to install OSX 10.2 first, upgrade 10.2 up until 10.2.8, then use my 10.3 Panther Upgrade disks to update Jaguar to Panther 10.3, use Apple's website to upgrade to OS 10.3.9, and then use the new Tiger Upgrade disks to get Tiger?

Or maybe there's an easier way? Could I just install Tiger using the disks that come out of the box, or maybe install Jaguar on my system and use my new Tiger disk to update to 10.4 directly?
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You had to install 10.3 over 10.2 because you had the Panther Upgrade disks, and there was no need to upgrade from 10.2.x to 10.2.8 before upgrading to 10.3, with upgrade disks you could just install whatever 10.2.0, or whatever, and the pop in the 10.3 CDs...

Unless you, for some reason, get hold of 10.4 Upgrade disk(s) - not an issue if you go to the Store and buy a regular Tiger-box, you will be able to do a nice and clean install, but as you just did archive and installs untill now: For whomever's sake remember to back up your home folder... 😉
 
BWhaler said:
I can't believe we're have the 10.3.10 nomenclature discussion again.
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Huh? You mean 10.3.9.1, not 10.3.10 which would be 10.4.0, or else you have to notate as 10.3.09, which it is not, since .09 has moved decimal point so it is fractional 9/100 point, which it is not. So therefore, 10.3.9.1 is next in line or they can't undate to 10.4.0.1 without confusing supporters of 10.3.9.1 or 10.3.10.
 
Lacero said:
Huh? You mean 10.3.9.1, not 10.3.10 which would be 10.4.0, or else you have to notate as 10.3.09, which it is not, since .09 has moved decimal point so it is fractional 9/100 point, which it is not. So therefore, 10.3.9.1 is next in line or they can't undate to 10.4.0.1 without confusing supporters of 10.3.9.1 or 10.3.10.
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In this case, x.y.z is broken down as such:
x: OS (10)
y: Major release (0=Cheetah, 1=Puma, 2=Jaguar, 3=Panther, 4=Tiger)
z: Minor release (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12, etc)
 
Lacero said:
Huh? You mean 10.3.9.1, not 10.3.10 which would be 10.4.0, or else you have to notate as 10.3.09, which it is not, since .09 has moved decimal point so it is fractional 9/100 point, which it is not. So therefore, 10.3.9.1 is next in line or they can't undate to 10.4.0.1 without confusing supporters of 10.3.9.1 or 10.3.10.
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Tell this to the open source community. All you have to do is look at the linux kernel and FreeBSD numbering schemes.

http://www.kernel.org/
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/index.html

These are very distinct examples of moving from x.x.9 to x.x.10. It is an industry standard. Can we please move along now?

Hickman
 
10.3.WHAT?

I don't know if someone posted this already (too lazy too read it all) but I think I recognize that change list. Reson:

- network volumes are now available in the Finder sidebar and Desktop for convenient access
this is from the 10.3.3 update

- iPods connected via USB 2.0 are now recognized by iTunes and iSync
this is from 10.3.4

- improved support for NTFS formatted volumes
10.3.5

It also mentions "- FileVault, FireWire 800 and WebDAV "improvements from Update 10.3.1

So is this something that has been unchanged since 10.3.1? Didn't think so.... Or did I miss something?

-iGeek
 
What do people think?

Is Steve Jobs still going to announce Tiger next friday from his hide away bat cave- or whatever the think secret story said! I usually believe most of what think secret says- and they're usually right. Not been sure about this one from the start tho'! 🙂
 
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