Done. Phone is on its way back.
Now try to debunk my claims. Oh thats right, you can't...
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Other phones do NOT have the same issue
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Done. Phone is on its way back.
Now try to debunk my claims. Oh thats right, you can't...
You are wrong. I have a very reliable old Blackberry 8320 and I decided to run that experiment. My bars dropped from 5 to 4 and I work under a gigantic cell phone tower AND an airport bristling with communications equipment. Never noticed this before but it happened.
I tried it again, and the screen went black.
Steve is right.
I tried it again, and the screen went black.
Steve is right.
Agree 100% with the TC.
I loved when someone asked Jobs to get his Blackberry to lose signal.
If Jobs says no one complains about the issue and it is only the press that cares about it, go ahead and issue a recall.
I'm sure the minimal .0000001 percent that has the issue will be the only ones that will ask for a new replacement.
All the geniuses on here that post the canned "just return it" reply, wouldn't dare get in on that recall.
I bet my house on it.
I loved when someone asked Jobs to get his Blackberry to lose signal.
If Jobs says no one complains about the issue and it is only the press that cares about it, go ahead and issue a recall.
I'm sure the minimal .0000001 percent that has the issue will be the only ones that will ask for a new replacement.
All the geniuses on here that post the canned "just return it" reply, wouldn't dare get in on that recall.
I bet my house on it.
What did you use? Remember you cant be touching the phone with your hands at all. Did you use a housekey? Paperclip? Staple? Can you get video of it?
Let me guess, you just gripped the phone, and you thought thats what my post was about. Reread it chief.
Debunk what claims, you moron? Other phones have the issue. Or have you recently done some massive test with every phone in the world, and you are just waiting for the right time to publish?
Good Lord. You might need to find a new hobby.
Its not the same issue. That the point. The issue the other phones have is not the same as the iphone4's issue. Do you understand?
You have to be the most irrelevant poster I have ever seen. No wit. No argument. Just name calling and zero facts presented. You are the true definition of a mindless troll.
So what? How does a paperclip come into play under regular use? I can understand comparing normal holding of your phone, but his test is utterly useless. Besides, you returning your phone, so isn't the problem solved?
The problem with the simple minded "return it" is that Apple has deals with certain software vendors to restrict certain functions of their software to only the Apple platform. If you actually use that functionality, you have no choice but to use an iPhone. If you want to return the iPhone 4 for something lesser, no problem, but I'll be damned if I'm feeding Apple any further and I know for a fact that there's no substitute for software I use on the iPhone so I'm stuck using a broken iPhone until the vendor or vendors in question work up the testicular fortitude to tell Apple to go fornicate themselves with an iron rod. Until then, "Return it" is a meaningless phrase meaning "I can't hear you la la la la la la la la la la la".
I hope everyone enjoyed the irony of Jobs recommending that his "beautiful art" be stuck in a case if you want it to work. That was actually pretty funny.
I hope everyone enjoyed the irony of Jobs recommending that his "beautiful art" be stuck in a case if you want it to work. That was actually pretty funny.
yes i can make my signal display drop on my 4 by holding it in the death grip... but my friend next to me can do exactly the same thing with his 3G..... this isn't anything new - its just that the iphone 4 is so high profile people are looking for a story......
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God god. Not the point. At All.
Seriously? People on this board need this much hand holding?
The paperclip example illustrates why this issue is the iPhone4's alone. Its an issue of bridging the antennae, not blocking the signal with your hand.
To recap:
Other smart phones: Lose signal because antenna is physically blocked with meaty hand.
iPhone4: Loses signal due to hardware flaw where ANYTHING that bridges the black line, be it hand, paperclip, staple, etc, causes signal to drop regardless of even if you are holding it.
Not the same issue chief. Your 3G is blocked by your hand. iPhone4's signal drops due to antennae shorting.
Same effect
Different causes.
iphone4 is defective.
Why does that matter? My hands aren't metal and I don't usually have coins/paperclips/whatever when using the phone!
God god. Not the point. At All.
Seriously? People on this board need this much hand holding?
The paperclip example illustrates why this issue is the iPhone4's alone. Its an issue of bridging the antennae, not blocking the signal with your hand.
To recap:
Other smart phones: Lose signal because antenna is physically blocked with meaty hand.
iPhone4: Loses signal due to hardware flaw where ANYTHING that bridges the black line, be it hand, paperclip, staple, etc, causes signal to drop regardless of even if you are holding it.
I have tried that! With "the death grip" (bridging the gap), which is not how hold the phone btw, in certain places the signal drops, and in certain places it doesn't, same as my 3GS. Just bridging the gap with one finger did nothing. What now smartass?
*yawn*....I can do this all day....
No, it doesn't need that much hand holding. They got to watch their boyfriend walk back and forth and say words and are all fired up, never mind that Jobs confused two issues and didn't address the real issue at all. You're not explaining anything now, you're just banging on head against a brick wall. Maybe as well try to explain the health plan to Glenn Beck. You know it's broken, I know it's broken, anyone with any education in electronic engineering and/or antenna theory and math knows it's broken. Who cares what the unwashed masses think? Right, Stevie-boy?
Why does it matter that the cause is different if the result is the same? Is the signal decrease on the iPhone 4 similar to the signal decrease on other phones?
What exactly are you holding Apple accountable for? There is nothing to fix. This is the product they have created. They have given you a choice and you can decide for yourself what you want to do.
Whether or not the phone has some sort of technical flaw is irrelevant to the discussion. If they don't see it as a problem then it isn't a problem. If you have a problem with that then you need to find other hardware made by a manufacturer that sees things your way.
Apple does have a green light to do literally whatever they want, just like you have a green light to do whatever you want. Make no mistakes, just because you think they owe you something doesn't mean they do. They have given you a choice, now make it.
Contrary to what Apple says, my RIM 9700 does not loose ANY bars when I hold it.
And there are a lot of iP4's that don't lose any bars when held "wrong". Mine being one of them.
it matters because it is a simple fix.
1) coat the antennae with a non conductive polymer
2) Make the bottom metal piece out of plastic
3) Move the antenna "weak spot" to the bottom of the phone by shifting the black line to the bottom speaker area
3 off the top of my head. Instead we get "hold it different" or "heres a case, now go away".