This forum just keeps getting more, and more disappointing.
Granted this is a Apple-specific forum and is going to attract that crowd, it is however unfortunate that so many of you display so little intelligence or common sense. You immediately start throwing **** at everything not showing a shining light on Apple.
The Pre isn't **** until you've thoroughly used it, and guess what, even the Apple fanboys that have used it generally like the device. Some snark at the WebOS and web apps. But guess what? iPhone did that do (sans WebOS).
As it has been discussed before, Multi Touch has prior art. I would love to see Apple try to take Palm to court over it, would be interesting to say the least.
There is no infringement on emulating the iPod or another other device to get it to sync with iTunes. To those spouting for Palm to create their own app; Why? I own a mac because I want seamless integration as much as possible. Pre syncing with iTunes, via emulating an iPod or other means is fine with me if it is seamless. Adding another application would just be cumbersome and clunky. This is not the Mac way, pull your head out of your ass and see reason and try throwing in some logic while you're at it.
The iPhone is a great tool, and no doubt so is the Pre. Just because it doesn't have the famed Apple logo doesn't make it any less valuable.
I realize I probably ask too much of an online, Apple centric forum; but I can still hope to see glimpses of intelligent life here, and even more rare: intelligent conversation.
A) nobody called the Pre anything as far as I remember, certainly not a curse word.
B) no one mentioned copyright infringement for multitouch either. Especially seeing how Palm has a lot of patents Apple seems to be using for iphone. I understood it more about infringing copyright by impersonating an apple product to an apple program.
C) intelligent conversation? Well I dont usually come to message boards looking for intelligent conversation ;-) But itunes is apples music management and sync software crown jewel, I think we all agree. It is designed to do the same thing OSX does...move apple hardware for profits. If other companies start using it, without Apples permission, then that would be illegal. Write a program, and you are free to use the content purchased on itunes and in the itunes library. What is, or would be, illegal I imagine, is using the software without permission, and impersonating Apple hardware to their Apple software (oh wait, that sounds like the same line of reasoning OSX86 is illegal!) And what would be ok is Apple cutting off the Pre. If they want sync software, they should write their own, or be partnered with itunes. Apple isnt blocking anyone from acccess to the content or from uninstalling using itunes. Their content is available on the HD, neatly organized.
While people imagine itunes and apple is for making their life easier, or the Apple way, or whatever, it is true, if one understands the reason it makes life easier is control and integration. How can apple guarantee that every Pre app and ever Pre update is going to work with itunes? What about Pre impersonating iphone so it can use Appstore (if thats even possible)? Apple makes great software to sell hardware so they can sell an experience. Thats the business model.
Theres no point in adding Pre from a business POV; they already have that market locked up and integrated; and anyone using iTunes without an iphone is a potential iphone customer, so why support pre?
From a user POV, well itd be awesome if everything synced with iTunes, but not everything is designed to work with Apple. If Palm wants it to sync, they should get apple involved, or use isync, not some behind the scenes weird thing.
How hard is it to make a shell for isync, and add music syncing? all the info is on the mac as .mp3/AAC, .mp4, vcard, etc. All open files. With the exception of playlists, its all there to be synced. So why use another companies program? A) its easier b) it gives you name recognition c) it lets you jump onto another programs popularity. d) its too hard to break into Apples market of integrated music buying, organizing, and syncing.
Palm should write its own program that works seamlessly with Amazon and Netflix. Now that would be a REAL alternative and a real seller, even to itunes diehards.