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Originally posted by weev
Ok, what about the bottom line here...

How much will Panther cost?; and will customers of the latest powerbooks, iMacs, etc, get a discount?

I think they should get a free upgrade but Apple has not been so generous about this in the past.

Most likely it will cost $129, same as Jaguar.

It's impossible to say if/who will get free/discounted Panther, only apple knows and they haven't said anything yet.

It would be very nice if they gave recent purchasers free upgrades, but thats up to them. I certainly hope noone whines if they don't get a free upgrade, because quite frankly Apple has no obligation to give it free to anyone yet.

I'll gladly pay full price to put Panther on my new G5,.
 
stockscalper:

yes Apple's use of metal can be very anoying.

Once I got past the whole metal part, panther was awsome.

If it is really that bad to see so much metal, chill out and get a dell.
 
Wow, the itunes operating system is almost ready and just in time to be released with the fugly G5'S and new fugly AL PB's. This isn't the year of the Powerbook for Apple, it's the year of U G L Y ! Yes, Apple has finally made their operating system look worse than Windows, their laptops look like Gateway's and their desktops like dorm refrigerators.

Uhhh.. NO. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I think Apple makes some of the sexiest hardware and software out there. The new PBS are absolutely gorgeous, as are the new G5s (Much, much more so in person than online, if you haven't seem on yet, go to your nearest Apple Store, and check em out). I just don't see any resemblance to Gateway at all, and I love the way panther looks and feels. It definitely has some major improvements over Jag.
 
Wow, good news

It's good to see Apple is finally going to release Panther soon. I guess all I need now is a Mac to run it :(

It's funny that Apple can release an OS pretty much every year while Microsoft can't. I know that XP has been out for a couple of years now...with all those billions, and all that time, you would think Microsoft could write a decent OS...I guess they are just missing something.

All the more reason the switch, now if I just wasn't broke...

PS: First post ever!
 
I want Panther so badly. As a first time Mac user, I can't wait to see a newer, better operating system actually improve performance on my PB. I'm so excited for Panther, I'm actually going to pay for it.
 
Re: seems to be close

Originally posted by iLife
if it comes out the 24th, it would be awesome to be able to go down to the apple store on my freaking birthday and use apple cards that people got me as presents along with what i hope is some discount from buying a G5 to get panther... here's to wishing.

:D

Yeah it's my birthday then too. Woohoo
 
Originally posted by arn
I didn't mean to imply that it had... just that they are initiating the process.

arn

That screenshot says "duale" processor. So either it is a fake or has a known bug (easter egg) or dozens of people at Apple and in seed programs cannot spell.

Dual

Dualie

So is Panther 64 going to be a separate full release or wil the computer "recognize" 64bit elements to the OS and use them invisibly as needed?

64 bit and 32 bit windows?

Rocketman
 
Originally posted by Freg3000
Ok. Reality check. 10.3 on 10/3 ain't gonna happen.

October 3rd is 6 days away. 6 Days. Although it would be a nice Apple touch, I just don't see it happening.
My best bet is 10-24.

How about 10/30. It is 10.3.0, ain't it? :)
 
the letters

think about what the letters mean. B for Beta, C for Candidate, and R for Release. Pretty simple.
 
Originally posted by stockscalper
Wow, the itunes operating system is almost ready and just in time to be released with the fugly G5'S and new fugly AL PB's. This isn't the year of the Powerbook for Apple, it's the year of U G L Y ! Yes, Apple has finally made their operating system look worse than Windows, their laptops look like Gateway's and their desktops like dorm refrigerators.

dude, relax...no one's making you buy..
 
Looking forward to new, old OS 9 feature.

The biggest feature I'm hoping will be in Panther is to get my two M-Audio Delta 1010 audio cards to work simultaneously. When I upgraded to OS X, the feature I found was I could only use one at a time and was stuck booting in 9. That really put a damper on how 'great' Core Audio is for me!

I also hope that they make a sweat offer to educators for an upgrade --- my wife's a teacher. But if I could have a guarantee that my two audio cards would work together, I'd have no qualms paying full price....I'm not holding my breath, though.
 
In the screenshot there's a different desktop background than the default Aqua Blue in Jaguar and in other Panther builds. Is that going to be the new Aqua Blue desktop background or did someone just change it for that screenshot?
 
Originally posted by Evan Laurie
In the screenshot there's a different desktop background than the default Aqua Blue in Jaguar and in other Panther builds. Is that going to be the new Aqua Blue desktop background or did someone just change it for that screenshot?

Yes, the default Apple desktop has changed.
 
Re: the letters

Originally posted by jimsowden
think about what the letters mean. B for Beta, C for Candidate, and R for Release. Pretty simple.


Uh... the letters mean nothing. Previous jaguar release builds have had L's and other letters. The only number that really signifies anything is the very first one.
 
Re: the letters

Originally posted by jimsowden
think about what the letters mean. B for Beta, C for Candidate, and R for Release. Pretty simple.

and is still incorrect.

previous release builds were 'K' I believe.

There is a logic to them, someone posted it a while back.... I think the 1st number is the Darwin build... the others I don't recall. (but not as simple as B=beta)

arn
 
Originally posted by Rocketman
That screenshot says "duale" processor. So either it is a fake or has a known bug (easter egg) or dozens of people at Apple and in seed programs cannot spell.

...or were using a non-english install.

arn
 
Stirr'in the pot, A?

I think some of these posts are awesome!

look like a frige?

released on 10/3

C=Chaos

How about 'Panthers make good house pets?'

After I Close on my first house, there's a 15" PB that will bless MY first doorstep properly as its' first delivery.

:cool:
 
Originally posted by arn
...or were using a non-english install.

arn

I've tryed changing the language under jag with no difference in the text. I also notice that on my dual 2.0 G5 it says "processors" not "processor"
 
Originally posted by tyson12zoll
I've tryed changing the language under jag with no difference in the text. I also notice that on my dual 2.0 G5 it says "processors" not "processor"


IT should display processors on a dual 2GHz G5.... because there are 2 processors - right!

I wish I had one to see what it'd say!! :cool:
 
Re: Looking forward to new, old OS 9 feature.

Originally posted by crazytom
The biggest feature I'm hoping will be in Panther is to get my two M-Audio Delta 1010 audio cards to work simultaneously. When I upgraded to OS X, the feature I found was I could only use one at a time and was stuck booting in 9. That really put a damper on how 'great' Core Audio is for me!

Be careful with blaming everything just on Apple. M-Audio never really got their act together in writing actually flawlessly working drivers for their hardware under Mac OS X. Shall I tell you how long it took me to get a driver that finally gave me back my audiophile 24/96? And still I can't use the MIDI-Interface and I am using an extry USB MIDIman for that. Apple is maybe responsible for some stuff, but definately not for the flawed drivers by 3rd party vendors...

groovebuster
 
Originally posted by shadowfax
i wonder if they are going to add any unexpected new features to it... has there been any speculation on this? (i.e., what new features they might be, rather than whether or not they will ad them)

No way. unexpected = untested. Not going to happen. A possibility is for features to be dropped, though. M$ typically is dropping features. Hmm, when windows goes from release candidate to it's final release build, that is, not the features it drops after you have installed it :D

M.
 
Originally posted by Freg3000
Ok. Reality check. 10.3 on 10/3 ain't gonna happen.

October 3rd is 6 days away. 6 Days. Although it would be a nice Apple touch, I just don't see it happening.
My best bet is 10-24.
Of course it ain't gonna happen on 10/3. But dreaming is allowed, no?
 
Re: Wouldn't it be 7C81?

Originally posted by MacSlut
Correct me if I'm wrong...I very well could be, but I thought the B represented that it was a pre-release (beta) and C represented a release candidate.

So shouldn't it be 7C81?

That being said, it really does feel like we're getting close, but I think we'd be having more of the "any day now" feeling if we saw the B replaced with a C.

My iMac is still running a build number with an L in it.

What the hell does that mean? That I'm running the Lambda Release?

Originally posted by stockscalper
Wow, the itunes operating system is almost ready and just in time to be released with the fugly G5'S and new fugly AL PB's. This isn't the year of the Powerbook for Apple, it's the year of U G L Y ! Yes, Apple has finally made their operating system look worse than Windows, their laptops look like Gateway's and their desktops like dorm refrigerators.

If you insult my 15" AlBook again I'll beat you up with it!

Originally posted by beg_ne
Most likely it will cost $129, same as Jaguar.

It's impossible to say if/who will get free/discounted Panther, only apple knows and they haven't said anything yet.

It would be very nice if they gave recent purchasers free upgrades, but thats up to them. I certainly hope noone whines if they don't get a free upgrade, because quite frankly Apple has no obligation to give it free to anyone yet.

I'll gladly pay full price to put Panther on my new G5,.

I just know that I'm not paying list price. Educational discounts and high-speed internet are the only redeeming qualities of going to college, let me tell you.
 
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