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try it and see if you get options other than the free UL texting. That was BCB's issue - he wasn't given the option of payg. Safest is to select pasyg and then the line will automatically have UL family text when it shows up on your account. But if adding the UL family text prevents you from selecting pasyg text, there may be an issue.

Free UL texting definitely has caused problems for people.


Gotcha. Thanks for the quick response. Expecting some iPhone 6+s tomorrow by my work. So we'll see how it goes. Lol
 
Has anyone seen if the phone would fit in a small flat rate box?

Padded Flat Rate envelope (signature required) would work and be near the lowest cost on the scale

USPS never pays insurance claims so no need to throw away money on their insurance scam (I KNOW "someone" (one specific person) is going to want to argue this!!!) If you really want secure guaranteed mailing you need to use Registered Mail which is what the Gold Bullion dealers use

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notice all zero feedback "new users" this is likely competitors "bombing" other sales ending near or just before their auction hoping their phone will sell
 
USPS never pays insurance claims so no need to throw away money on their insurance scam (I KNOW "someone" (one specific person) is going to want to argue this!!!)
The reason I do it is more than anything is to deter scammers from buying from me. First, it is a more severe crime to scam someone through the US mail than through FedEx and UPS. Scammers know that, which is why they always want you to use FedEx or UPS not USPS.

Second, with insurance if the item is damaged during shipment you are covered if you packed the item well. I take pictures of my packaging. I tell buyers to inspect the package and alert me upon receipt if the item is damaged so I can file a claim promptly.

Third, if the package gets lost in the USPS system, which they rarely do but can, the USPS will pay the insurance claim. There is no defense to losing a package. I would need to see some data if you are going to claim the USPS loses insured packages and then refuses to pay claims.
 
Looks like the STI error was a fluke for me. Was able to pick up two 6's no problem not too long ago! #
 
Trying to Keep My UDP, Here is my scenario and questions

Line 1: Iphone 5, UDP, No upgrade available. Wouldn't touch anyway.
Line 2: Iphone 5S, UDP, No upgrade available.
Line 3: LG Dumb phone, No Data, MTM, Upgrade available.

I know about the old loophole as this is how I was able to get my wife's 5S last year.

I want to know if I can use the line 3 upgrade to get subsidized IP6+, once I receive it put my 5 sim into IP6+ an transfer that to my line. That part seems pretty straight forward after reading this thread. The part I have the biggest question on is line 3 in getting that back to the dumb phone.

I've heard that now you have to keep data on the upgrade line for 2years once a suby phone has been purchased. Has anyone gotten around this and had the data taken off? IF I can't take the data off line 3 once suby has been used then it only makes since to by the phone outright because the price I would pay would be nearly the same.

$30 X 24 months = $720+ Tax and Fees.IP5 Now on Line 3 OR
$849(64G Model)- $199 credit for IP5= $650. No extension of contract.

Any help would be appreciated.
 
I am pretty much done with this now since getting rid of lines seems to be cumbersome. Did manage to snag iPhones for family members and a few to eBay.

All the previous talk about the texting option still had my confused. Whenever I created lines, I was never prompted to choose a texting plan. Only to which Nationwide plan I was adding the phone to. Interesting how there's another screen prompt for people.
 
I am pretty much done with this now since getting rid of lines seems to be cumbersome. Did manage to snag iPhones for family members and a few to eBay.

All the previous talk about the texting option still had my confused. Whenever I created lines, I was never prompted to choose a texting plan. Only to which Nationwide plan I was adding the phone to. Interesting how there's another screen prompt for people.
Yes, that is very interesting. Do you have unlimited family texting?

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Trying to Keep My UDP, Here is my scenario and questions

Line 1: Iphone 5, UDP, No upgrade available. Wouldn't touch anyway.
Line 2: Iphone 5S, UDP, No upgrade available.
Line 3: LG Dumb phone, No Data, MTM, Upgrade available.

I know about the old loophole as this is how I was able to get my wife's 5S last year.

I want to know if I can use the line 3 upgrade to get subsidized IP6+, once I receive it put my 5 sim into IP6+ an transfer that to my line.
Yes that is Jaycemiskel Method but it is only through a 3rd party retailer, not Verizon. Apple counts as a 3rd party retailer. There is no transfer of phones as the iP6+ will never be active on the basic line.

The part I have the biggest question on is line 3 in getting that back to the dumb phone.
The basic phone is never removed from the basic line. That is why you aren't stuck with a 2 year data plan on the basic line. Read the wiki for detailed instructions on Jaycemiskel Method.

http://slickdeals.net/f/6964624-upgrade-and-keep-your-unlimited-data-with-verizon?v=1
 
Yes that is Jaycemiskel Method but it is only through a 3rd party retailer, not Verizon. Apple counts as a 3rd party retailer. There is no transfer of phones as the iP6+ will never be active on the basic line.

The basic phone is never removed from the basic line. That is why you aren't stuck with a 2 year data plan on the basic line. Read the wiki for detailed instructions on Jaycemiskel Method.

http://slickdeals.net/f/6964624-upgrade-and-keep-your-unlimited-data-with-verizon?v=1

And this definitely works? I'd much rather have a dump phone that I'm paying a small fee for in order to get yearly upgrades and keep my UDP than have a second smartphone plan and paying for it without much need.
 
And this definitely works? I'd much rather have a dump phone that I'm paying a small fee for in order to get yearly upgrades and keep my UDP than have a second smartphone plan and paying for it without much need.
You would need to acquire someone's out of contract basic line for this to work now. But those should be cheap to come by I would think.

I thought your fiance was going to use the 2nd smartphone?

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if you dont mind, just get the phone unsub then?
The cost of a basic line for me is $315 over 24 months. The subsidy is $450 so it is worth it but I use the basic line as an emergency phone for my mom's car so for me it is really worth it. My mom forgets her iPhone all of the time but this way, there is always a phone in her car. I just make sure I charge it whenever I have to drive her some place.

I use the basic line's upgrade to flip an iPhone, which nets me around $350 usually, so the basic line is free. Now that we have the Frenzytom Method, I will still be able to transfer UDP upgrades to the basic line w/o having to pick a new plan on the UDP line unlike with Flying Arrow or Aohus Methods.
 
You would need to acquire someone's out of contract basic line for this to work now. But those should be cheap to come by I would think.

I thought your fiance was going to use the 2nd smartphone?

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The cost of a basic line for me is $315 over 24 months. The subsidy is $450 so it is worth it but I use the basic line as an emergency phone for my mom's car so for me it is really worth it. My mom forgets her iPhone all of the time but this way, there is always a phone in her car. I just make sure I charge it whenever I have to drive her some place.

I use the basic line's upgrade to flip an iPhone, which nets me around $350 usually, so the basic line is free. Now that we have the Frenzytom Method, I will still be able to transfer UDP upgrades to the basic line w/o having to pick a new plan on the UDP line unlike with Flying Arrow or Aohus Methods.

is it in wiki yet? i couldnt find it.
 
at the end which one gets the 2 yr contract? UPD line?

It is ALWAYS the line whose upgrade is used that gets the 2 year contract. Always.

He could have used the SIM card that shipped with the phone to activate on the other UDP line a la FAM or the SIM card active in the other UDP line a la Aohus if it were the same size as the new phone's SIM card. He didn't need a new SIM card but since this was an untried method, he used a new SIM card. He had to involve a Verizon rep, which was ballzy to say the least.
 
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My fiancée may get an unlimited line, but I like to upgrade my phones yearly, so the easiest way to do that would be to get a basic phone line and alternate updates between my line and that one.
 
It is ALWAYS the line whose upgrade is used that gets the 2 year contract. Always.

He could have used the SIM card that shipped with the phone to activate on the other UDP line a la FAM or the SIM card active in the other UDP line if it were the same size as the new phone's SIM card. He didn't need a new SIM card but since this was an untried method, he used a new SIM card. He had to involve a Verizon rep, which was ballzy to say the least.

Got it.
In summary, F-Tom has three lines.
2UDP + 1 basic.
Transferred UDP#1 upgrade to basic.
Order phone, agree CA
Got a new sim card for UDP #2.
Place UDP#2 new sim to the new iphone.

NOW
UDP #1 got new 2 yr contract.
Basic stays the same
UDP #2 new iphone6.

you dont really need the second half if UDP#1 has the same size sim card?
 
My fiancée may get an unlimited line, but I like to upgrade my phones yearly, so the easiest way to do that would be to get a basic phone line and alternate updates between my line and that one.
But do the math:

Unsubsidized 16GB iP6 = $650 + tax = $690 where I live
Subsidized 16GB iP6 = $200 + $30 upgrade fee + tax = $240 where I live
Cost of a basic line for 24 months = $315

So the cost of the basic line and the subsidized phone is $555 vs. $690 unsubsidized, a savings of only $135. I personally have a use for the extra basic phone as I have explained so it is a worth it to me. If you don't have a use for the basic phone, you may be better off buying gently used phones on swappa every other year.

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Got it.
In summary, F-Tom has three lines.
2UDP + 1 basic.
Transferred UDP#1 upgrade to basic.
Order phone, agree CA
Got a new sim card for UDP #2.
Place UDP#2 new sim to the new iphone.
Yes, but he could have used UDP #2 SIM card to activate the new iPhone on UDP #2 if it were the same size a la Aohus but if not, he could have used the SIM card the new iPhone shipped with to activate it on UDP #2 a la FAM.

NOW
UDP #1 got new 2 yr contract.
Basic stays the same
UDP #2 new iphone6.
Yes - he had a pending activation on UDP #1 for a week but it fell off on its own.

you dont really need the second half if UDP#1 has the same size sim card?
No - you cannot activate the new iPhone on the same line whose upgrade you used. You have to activate it on another UDP line.

If the only other line you have is a TDP line rather than a UDP line, there is no reason to do this at all b/c you can just do the 4ever method.
 
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Last post and then I'm done... At least your reply wasn't a smart remark but I still don't agree with you. MR is about sharing information, opinions, and helping one another out. If everyone charged for their experience nothing would get accomplished. Just being pointed in the right direction would have went a long way. Maybe a summary or link to a post.

Finally, I don't expect everything to be handed to me. I searched and found an overwhelming amount of info that I couldn't absorb in the time that I have available. Oh well...

Grow the f.ck up and do 5 min of research and you can find your answers. Instead of snide remarks to helpful posters on this thread read up on the slickdeals wiki and figure it out. Still have questions? Don't be a smart ass. We've all been through school & work. We're here to help if you aren't : 1. Lazy 2. An Ass or 3. both
 
but wouldnt this just be a variation of bb?
you got an iphone, pop your old sim back, wouldnt that work?
If you are asking me about this:

1) Through Verizon online transfer a UDP Line's upgrade to a basic line;
2) Pick the 2GB data plan for the basic line and order a new smartphone on the basic line ship to home;
3) When you receive the new smartphone, remove the SIM card it ships with without turning it on or plugging it in; and
4) Activate the new smartphone on the UDP Line.

Idk b/c no one has done it after 8/24/14. But that is Switzma Method if you do it through a 3rd party retailer.

All I can tell you is that Larry06 did the BB method ordering through Verizon online and it left him with one of those pending activations where it is asking you if you want to activate the phone that you just ordered on the line. He tried to get rid of that by following the steps and he lost UDP.

So it worked, but the issue with doing the BB method through Verizon is that you are left with a pending activation on your line that is unlike the pending activation you are left with when you order from a 3rd party retailer. If a Verizon rep sees that, they can complete it and poof, away goes your UDP.

Someone would have to do it and let us all know how it worked out. Perhaps it would have been fine if Larry06 hadn't tried to get rid of the pending activation, idk, but he did and lost UDP and then got it back by returning the phone.
 
If you are asking me about this:

1) Through Verizon online transfer a UDP Line's upgrade to a basic line;
2) Pick the 2GB data plan for the basic line and order a new smartphone on the basic line ship to home;
3) When you receive the new smartphone, remove the SIM card it ships with without turning it on or plugging it in; and
4) Activate the new smartphone on the UDP Line.

Idk b/c no one has done it after 8/24/14. But that is Switzma Method if you do it through a 3rd party retailer.

All I can tell you is that Larry06 did the BB method ordering through Verizon online and it left him with one of those pending activations where it is asking you if you want to activate the phone that you just ordered on the line. He tried to get rid of that by following the steps and he lost UDP.

So it worked, but the issue with doing the BB method through Verizon is that you are left with a pending activation on your line that is unlike the pending activation you are left with when you order from a 3rd party retailer. If a Verizon rep sees that, they can complete it and poof, away goes your UDP.

Someone would have to do it and let us all know how it worked out. Perhaps it would have been fine if Larry06 hadn't tried to get rid of the pending activation, idk, but he did and lost UDP and then got it back by returning the phone.

Got it, that's why you said FrenezyTom was ballzy.
golden rule... never call verizon unless you have to.
 
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