Part II - UDP For Life

[JulesJam]

but wouldnt this just be a variation of bb?
you got an iphone, pop your old sim back, wouldnt that work?

Like I have been telling people on SDs, I am not a magical being with supernatural powers. All I am doing is reading what other people report they have done and then combining that with my own experience to figure out what works and what doesn't.

I can tell you that there is definitely a difference b/t how upgrades are processed when ordering through Verizon vs. when ordering through a 3rd party retailer. With the latter, the switch order is tied to the SIM card the phone ships with so if you just destroy it, you are good. That is why the UDVZWIP4 Method works.

Ordering through Verizon it is not tied to the SIM card otherwise the FAM wouldn't work. It is about that pending activation left on your line but idk if it goes away or not if you try the BB method when ordering through Verizon.

I also can tell you that I have screwed around with SIM cards, dummy ESNs and pending activations and made terrible problems on my line that even Tier 2 Tech support supervisors couldn't undo, lol! They ended up having to cancel my line and charge me the etf and then refund the etf and then create a new line with a new phone number and then switch me back to my old phone number to fix some of the problems I have caused.

Remember that Verizon's network is a hybrid CDMA/LTE network, it is not a pure GSM network like ATT or TMobile. It is not as simple as just popping SIM cards in devices as there is still a CDMA component to Verizon's system.

 

[didiee]

Like I have been telling people on SDs, I am not a magical being with supernatural powers.

I also can tell you that I have screwed around with SIM cards, dummy ESNs and pending activations and made terrible problems on my line that even Tier 2 Tech support supervisors couldn't undo, lol! They ended up having to cancel my line and charge me the etf and then refund the etf and then create a new line with a new phone number and then switch me back to my old phone number to fix some of the problems I have caused.

You are not?!

That sounds like something i'm just too busy to deal with (insert sarcasm). Dealing with Verizon hours on end, isnt something that i want to wish upon even my enemies.

 

[JulesJam]

Got it, that's why you said FrenezyTom was ballzy.
golden rule... never call verizon unless you have to.

Especially not if you ordered through Verizon using a UDP line's upgrade, lol! Ballzy to say the least. But I think what happened is that b/t the transfer to the basic line and the activation on a different UDP line, the rep didn't focus on the pending activation left on the UDP line whose upgrade was used. It was there for a week and he said it fell off on its own. That may have happened to Larry06, too if he just would have waited, but he didn't.

The good news is that everyone who has lost UDP has gotten it back by returning the phone w/in 14 days. And even if you can't get it back, they have to reverse the contract if you return the phone w/in 14 days so you could then cancel the line and pick up one of the many free UDP lines being handed out now. Or if you have another UDP line on your family plan, just order from apple.com, lol!

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That sounds like something i'm just too busy to deal with (insert sarcasm). Dealing with Verizon hours on end, isnt something that i want to wish upon even my enemies.

It pretty much sucked so don't follow in footsteps and be careful playing sim card switcheroo games unless they are proven methods. The upside was that I got the inconvenience credit twice as well as a refund of my activation fee. So $85 credit for my time (still not worth it!).

 

[markyr17]

Just an update- doing very well with this!

Glad to see the thread is still active

 

[didiee]

Just an update- doing very well with this!

Glad to see the thread is still active

what is "this"?

 

[markyr17]

what is "this"?

Flipping phones

 

[didiee]

It pretty much sucked so don't follow in footsteps and be careful playing sim card switcheroo games unless they are proven methods. The upside was that I got the inconvenience credit twice as well as a refund of my activation fee. So $85 credit for my time (still not worth it!).

Nope, the agony and time waiting..... $85 is good chunk of change, but..... still not worthy it.

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Flipping phones

stocking lines for a good christmas too?

the price of lines are just going down the toilet.

 

[JulesJam]

Flipping phones

No you are heroically bringing affordable iPhones to the masses!!! To paraphrase Herbert Hoover - an iPhone in every purse!!!! Or if you are a guy, an iPhone in every pocket!!!!!

 

[Supermallet]

But do the math:

Unsubsidized 16GB iP6 = $650 + tax = $690 where I live
Subsidized 16GB iP6 = $200 + $30 upgrade fee + tax = $240 where I live
Cost of a basic line for 24 months = $315

So the cost of the basic line and the subsidized phone is $555 vs. $690 unsubsidized, a savings of only $135. I personally have a use for the extra basic phone as I have explained so it is a worth it to me. If you don't have a use for the basic phone, you may be better off buying gently used phones on swappa every other year.

Well I get the 64 GB Plus, so the initial buy-in cost will be higher if I got one unsubsidized (as would buying it subsidized, but the $100 price difference in subsidy often translates to more than $100 price difference on the resale market), and ultimately I'm still saving over $100 over the two year period, so it would still be useful to me. Although there is some amount of potential hassle involved that may negate the savings.

 

[JulesJam]

Well I get the 64 GB Plus, so the initial buy-in cost will be higher if I got one unsubsidized, and ultimately I'm still saving over $100 over the two year period, so it would still be useful to me. Although there is some amount of potential hassle involved that may negate the savings.

You can always keep the basic phone in your car as an emergency phone if you need it. I am female so perhaps I worry about these things more than men but what if you were in a car wreck at night and your cell phone flew off of the passenger seat and was smashed? If you have the basic phone in your console, it may still work. That is the way I look at it - money well spent as an emergency phone and I get the benefit of transferring UDP upgrades to it. Of course you have to buy a basic phone to use on the line, but I got mine for under $20 on ebay.

 

[Supermallet]

So I would just buy a basic phone off of ebay or something, and then go to my Verizon account, add a line, and specify that I'm bring my own device? Or will I need to call Verizon to activate a basic phone line on my plan?

 

[Zserver]

You can always keep the basic phone in your car as an emergency phone if you need it. I am female so perhaps I worry about these things more than men but what if you were in a car wreck at night and your cell phone flew off of the passenger seat and was smashed? If you have the basic phone in your console, it may still work. That is the way I look at it - money well spent as an emergency phone and I get the benefit of transferring UDP upgrades to it. Of course you have to buy a basic phone to use on the line, but I got mine for under $20 on ebay.

Huh, that makes a lot of sense, and is a form of cheap insurance too. Makes sense for guys too, frankly.

 

[JulesJam]

So I would just buy a basic phone off of ebay or something, and then go to my Verizon account, add a line, and specify that I'm bring my own device? Or will I need to call Verizon to activate a basic phone line on my plan?

Well first off, everything changed on 8/25/14 - you used to be able to add a basic line, get a subsidized smartphone with the line and then put a basic phone on the line and drop the data plan. Now you can't b/c now you have to have to pay for a 2 year data plan if you get a subsidized smartphone with the line.

But what I would do if I were you is find someone who wants to unload a basic line that is almost off contract and then use Jaycemiskel to upgrade it when it is ready for an upgrade.

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Huh, that makes a lot of sense, and is a form of cheap insurance too. Makes sense for guys too, frankly.

yeah, I feel so vulnerable w/o a phone on me now a days. These basic phones pay for themselves and then some if you are willing to flip an iPhone and use Jaycemiskel or Neomits Methods as long as you have the space on your legacy family plan for an extra line.

http://slickdeals.net/f/6964624-upgrade-and-keep-your-unlimited-data-with-verizon?v=1

 

[Supermallet]

Well first off, everything changed on 8/25/14 - you used to be able to add a basic line, get a subsidized smartphone with the line and then put a basic phone on the line and drop the data plan. Now you can't b/c now you have to have to pay for a 2 year data plan if you get a subsidized smartphone with the line.

But what I would do if I were you is find someone who wants to unload a basic line that is almost off contract and then use Jaycemiskel to upgrade it when it is ready for an upgrade.

And now we get into the hassle portion. I'm not sure where I'd find someone with a basic line looking to dump it. I did a quick search on eBay and didn't see anything. And is a basic line and a 2g line the same thing?

 

[JulesJam]

And now we get into the hassle portion. I'm not sure where I'd find someone with a basic line looking to dump it. I did a quick search on eBay and didn't see anything. And is a basic line and a 2g line the same thing?

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=71166414&postcount=11086

Ask Dreamjaeil if his dad would AOL his daughter's basic line to you. It is ready for an upgrade on 12/2/14. All they have to do is give your name to the AOL dept as the person who will AOL the line and then give you the phone number of the line. Then you AOL the line by calling the AOL department and give the phone number. If you don't already have a family plan, you have to merge it into your existing UDP line to form a family plan.

Then once you get the line, change the number so you don't receive all of dreamjaeil's sister's texts and phone calls, lol!

 

[didiee]

And now we get into the hassle portion. I'm not sure where I'd find someone with a basic line looking to dump it. I did a quick search on eBay and didn't see anything. And is a basic line and a 2g line the same thing?

I like where all this is going.... Pretty soon people will be flipping basic lines off contracts.

 

[Supermallet]

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=71166414&postcount=11086

Ask Dreamjaeil if his dad would AOL his daughter's basic line to you. It is ready for an upgrade on 12/2/14. All they have to do is give your name to the AOL dept as the person who will AOL the line and then give you the phone number of the line. Then you AOL the line by calling the AOL department and give the phone number. If you don't already have a family plan, you have to merge it into your existing UDP line to form a family plan.

Then once you get the line, change the number so you don't receive all of dreamjaeil's sister's texts and phone calls, lol!

I just sent a PM. I'll let you know what the response is. Thanks!

 

[JulesJam]

I like where all this is going.... Pretty soon people will be flipping basic lines off contracts.

hahahaha- not marky or Cnotes or jdougal they need that space for more UDP lines!

 

[cnotes2019]

Downloading walking dead season 5 episode 2 in t minus VERY SOON

 

[JulesJam]

Downloading walking dead season 5 episode 2 in t minus VERY SOON

I keep nodding off and hitting my head on my desk Ouch! trying to stay awake for the 2am refresh. I have heavy metal music playing on my radio (yes, I have a radio) and every time there is a guitar rift or the singer screams out I get startled and wake up. Idk how else to stay awake - I CAN'T DO THIS ANY MORE!!!!!!

 

[cnotes2019]

I keep nodding off and hitting my head on my desk Ouch! trying to stay awake for the 2am refresh. I have heavy metal music playing on my radio (yes, I have a radio) and every time there is a guitar rift or the singer screams out I get startled and wake up. Idk how else to stay awake - I CAN'T DO THIS ANY MORE!!!!!!

Caffeine high won't ever come down

 

[aohus]

Damn I use a lot of data lol. iPhone 6+

Unlimited for life folks. VZW + UDP = yay

sup JulesJam (SDer here)

 

[AutoLode]

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=71166414&postcount=11086

Ask Dreamjaeil if his dad would AOL his daughter's basic line to you. It is ready for an upgrade on 12/2/14. All they have to do is give your name to the AOL dept as the person who will AOL the line and then give you the phone number of the line. Then you AOL the line by calling the AOL department and give the phone number. If you don't already have a family plan, you have to merge it into your existing UDP line to form a family plan.

Then once you get the line, change the number so you don't receive all of dreamjaeil's sister's texts and phone calls, lol!

Doesn't the AOL add 1 year to the contract or is that just for smartphone plans?

 

[JulesJam]

Caffeine high won't ever come down

Yep, I have to cut it off at 6pm else I can't sleep at all. Better for me to struggle!

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Damn I use a lot of data lol. iPhone 6+

Unlimited for life folks. VZW + UDP = yay

sup JulesJam (SDer here)

Woot Mr. Aohus of the Aohus method awesome!!!!!!!!

 

[didiee]

I keep nodding off and hitting my head on my desk Ouch! trying to stay awake for the 2am refresh. I have heavy metal music playing on my radio (yes, I have a radio) and every time there is a guitar rift or the singer screams out I get startled and wake up. Idk how else to stay awake - I CAN'T DO THIS ANY MORE!!!!!!

How Do you know when the refresh is? It's two here!
Other than bb, anyone tried target, RadioShack, I know amazon and Costco were very ifie. Trying to pull off a JoyceM.....