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Yes, you are no longer a Verizon customer.

There is no way they can charge you the etf, but they can terminate the contract for reselling their service.

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Ah, so it is a 4G LTE placeholder device ID!!!!! Perfect! They eliminated dummy ESNs but she put a 4G LTE placeholder device id on your line.

If you want to terminate a line, porting to page plus is faster but you need a device to do it.

Sounds like a totally win/win venture. Interesting. That might be my part time job after this Apple glitch ends. I was worried about being stuck with an entire second account with UDP lines I didn't want to pay for. Looks like I can just transition into this market. At worse the account gets canceled and I'd break even. At best I have some reoccurring income every month.
 
I also have had more than enough Android phones to know that most of them can be rooted and unlocked to do exactly what you need them to do.
Not motorola devices - the motorola bootloader is locked down tight. And Android has changed now that they are using SELINUX - it is much more secure and requires much more effort to root. Currently, there is no way to unlock or root a Verizon Moto X running 4.4.4 (other than dev edition). And some of the smartest devs with the most experience unlocking and rooting have been working on it and cannot do it.

And even before 4.4.4, slap my moto was no easy task to root. I know, I had to do it b/f the chinese guy started selling the codes.

Also, lots of people end up with hard bricks when they root devices with locked bootloaders. Head on over to XDA and read all of the threads about it.

Some take more work than others, most take more work than a Nexus, but it's disingenuous to suggest that the Nexus line is the only line of Android phone usable with the mobile hotspot function for UDP.
I didn't say that but you have obviously not used Android since SELINUX was introduced. It is a whole different ball game now.

Therefore I think it's quite valid to compare the hardware of the phones, because "how easy is it to root" isn't the only thing a person should consider when buying a new phone.
Good luck unlocking the Turbo's bootloader and rooting it. If jcase, beaups and dan rosenberg can't do it, you sure won't be able to do it.

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Do you need to add the mifi on verizons website for UDP. Or can you just put in a 4G LTE Sim?
Just pop an already active 4G LTE SIM card in it.

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Sounds like a totally win/win venture. Interesting. That might be my part time job after this Apple glitch ends. I was worried about being stuck with an entire second account with UDP lines I didn't want to pay for. Looks like I can just transition into this market. At worse the account gets canceled and I'd break even. At best I have some reoccurring income every month.
Yep, but how are you going to find your victims, er I mean customers?
 
I thought you were going to rent them all from me? Nexus 6 needs multiple hotspots to connect to!
No, no, no, no, no!!! Nexus 6 has an UNLOCKABLE BOOTLOADER - no MHS needed you can use the native Wifi tether.
 
One of the lines I recently gave away was to someone that was doing that. He rents out Mifi with UDP lines for $150/month. I wonder how much those Mifi's are to buy?

IMO the MHS291L JetPack is the way to go, 4g / 3g (newer units are 4g only) and it has 2 external antenna ports which can greatly enhance fringe reception.These were sold as prepaid MHS's through Walmart etc but can still be had for $80 to $129 on ebay now. You will need a nano to micro SIM adapter

Easily added to your account online using the MEID and SIM number
 
I didn't realize Moto has made it harder to root, that's a damn shame because they're making some of the best, if not the best Android phones out there. Apologies if I came off as argumentative.
 
IMO the MHS291L JetPack is the way to go, 4g / 3g (newer units are 4g only) and it has 2 external antenna ports which can greatly enhance fringe reception.These were sold as prepaid MHS's through Walmart etc but can still be had for $80 to $129 on ebay now. You will need a nano to micro SIM adapter

Easily added to your account online using the MEID and SIM number

for that do you still need to add $10/line then $30/data? or only pay data....?

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Jules no phone is attached to that line at the moment. It just says 4G Smartphone PDI.

I told her that I didn't want to cancel the line because I was going to get another phone for that line. But really I may just cancel it after I port my number out to Google.

I was just too afraid they would screw up the UDP if I asked her to port out my number to the new UDP line.

someone i know just asked them to port the number onto udp line. took a little while, but it worked... depends on who you encounter.

gv worked, but some people had to wait up to a week for it to work. it took ~36 hours for me.

have not tried page plus.... do you have to buy some minutes and open a prepaid account?
 
I didn't realize Moto has made it harder to root, that's a damn shame because they're making some of the best, if not the best Android phones out there. Apologies if I came off as argumentative.
Actually, the motorola bootloaders have always been very secure and darn near impossible to unlock without a code. The difficulty rooting is as much a function of SELINUX in android as it is with anything motorola is doing.

iPhone are getting harder to jailbreak, too. Everytime someone jailbreaks a version of iOS, Apple learns its flaws and patches them. And everytime someone roots an android version, google does the same.
 
have not tried page plus.... do you have to buy some minutes and open a prepaid account?
Not from what I have read - you just port with your IMEI number of the phone on your current line and the call Verizon to re-port back to the new UDP line.

It terminates the line b/c no time to change number from what I have read.
 
IMO the MHS291L JetPack is the way to go, 4g / 3g (newer units are 4g only) and it has 2 external antenna ports which can greatly enhance fringe reception.These were sold as prepaid MHS's through Walmart etc but can still be had for $80 to $129 on ebay now. You will need a nano to micro SIM adapter

Easily added to your account online using the MEID and SIM number

Thanks for the information!
 
Do I need to open my new IP6 and turn it on before getting rid of the new UDP line that is associated with it? It was scanned in-store and I see the new line on myverizon login however the phone doesn't show on there.

thanks
 
Arrrrrgh!!! Nothing AGAIN!!!!

Why oh why has Apple foresaken me? :mad::apple::mad::apple::mad::apple::mad::apple:

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Do I need to open my new IP6 and turn it on before getting rid of the new UDP line that is associated with it? It was scanned in-store and I see the new line on myverizon login however the phone doesn't show on there.

thanks
No one has done that yet so you would be the first. Tell us how it goes, thanks!
 
I'm an honorary mod. Please refrain from posting about a sorry device that's too big such as the nexus 6 !! it will be obsolete too fast to desire especially when the htc m9 comes out early next year
 
thanks. I wonder if it's on a family share plan with udp, what would happen....:rolleyes:
$40 per line doesn't matter what device is on it - you have to pay the $10 line access fee and then if you want UDP, $30 data plan.

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I'm an honorary mod. Please refrain from posting about a sorry device that's too big such as the nexus 6 !! it will be obsolete too fast to desire especially when the htc m9 comes out early next year
M9 will be nice, I am sure but only if someone can unlock the bootloader. Otherwise, I will pray for another Verizon Nexus next year.
 
Not from what I have read - you just port with your IMEI number of the phone on your current line and the call Verizon to re-port back to the new UDP line.

It terminates the line b/c no time to change number from what I have read.

not sure what you mean? when you port back, it terminate the line?

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Not from what I have read - you just port with your IMEI number of the phone on your current line and the call Verizon to re-port back to the new UDP line.

It terminates the line b/c no time to change number from what I have read.

Do I need to open my new IP6 and turn it on before getting rid of the new UDP line that is associated with it? It was scanned in-store and I see the new line on myverizon login however the phone doesn't show on there.

thanks

i always turn it on and take out the sim card, to test and make sure the person receiving the phone wont "accidentally" get an UDP line

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$40 per line doesn't matter what device is on it - you have to pay the $10 line access fee and then if you want UDP, $30 data plan.



Then why would i put it on a MHS? If i have an andriod that allows me to share wifi?
 
Then why would i put it on a MHS? If i have an andriod that allows me to share wifi?

I would not add an MHS mifi if I intended to use an android phone that allows tethering. I would just pay the $70 and use it as a mifi.
 
not sure what you mean? when you port back, it terminate the line?
No - when you port a number out of Verizon, it terminates the line. The only way to avoid that is to port to GV and change the number on the line b/f 24 hours. Ports to prepaid are virtually instantaneous so you can't stop the line from terminating.

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Then why would i put it on a MHS? If i have an andriod that allows me to share wifi?
You wouldn't. But if you have an unjailbreakable iPhone, you would.

However, if you have home internet through cable for $65/mo, you could add a UDP line and put a MiFi on it for $40/mo instead.

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Yes a single line, I can use my single line as a phone and a mifi. I use pdanet.
PDANet doesn't work on motorola phones running kitkat but it does on samsung, HTC and LG IIRC. When you upgrade to Lollipop it will likely not work again and then it will be up to PDANet to find an exploit to get it working again.
 
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My friend just came across a standstill in the AOL process.

He set up an AOL, and the person who was to receive the line was unable to do so.

The rep said:

that (phone number) was no longer on a Family Share with UDP... it has been converted to a line on the More Everything plan.


Apparently the supervisor has also confirmed this.

When my friend logs in, it still shows it as a line in the Nationwide Talk and Text.

Perhaps they're finally trying to defend against all these AOL of UDP lines by flat out lying?
 
No - when you port a number out of Verizon, it terminates the line. The only way to avoid that is to port to GV and change the number on the line b/f 24 hours. Ports to prepaid are virtually instantaneous so you can't stop the line from terminating.


I've heard it is possible to change the number on the line to save it if you are quick enough (within a few minutes of porting out). I'm planning to try it to see since I have a line I can live without, but I'm still waiting on the phone to show up (still hasn't even shipped yet).
 
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