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He's going to try getting a new VZW sim card today.
He should try a Verizon Authorized Retailer, but he will have to pay them for the SIM card.

So then, the PDI before you AOL a line simply makes it easier to use that PHONE later on another VZW line. It doesn't do anything for the line.
I think it is helpful for both the phone and the line. It gets the phone off of the line and gets the line unassociated with the phone.

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What is a IPR?
Inactive Pricing Request.
 
I would keep the first line until you are done and merge it back into your main account b/c that line is the one you created the online access to the subaccount on. If you AOL it, then you would have to re-register for online access to the subaccount.

Is there some reason you can't AOL the second line? Don't you want to merge the first line back into your main account at some point?

haven't had a chance to aol the second line yet just got it last night and my personal phone is my main and its an individual nw 450 so when this does end at some point ill just be back to my single line account. that's why I didn't know what to do with the line I used to create the sub. but you bring up a great point in keeping it till im done with all my Aols
 
haven't had a chance to aol the second line yet just got it last night and my personal phone is my main and its an individual nw 450 so when this does end at some point ill just be back to my single line account. that's why I didn't know what to do with the line I used to create the sub. but you bring up a great point in keeping it till im done with all my Aols
If you don't need the second line, you either AOL it to someone else or cancel it and pay the etf. You also could keep it suspended w/o billing for 180 days once you are done riding this gravy train and then decide what to do with it.
 
If you don't need the second line, you either AOL it to someone else or cancel it and pay the etf. You also could keep it suspended w/o billing for 180 days once you are done riding this gravy train and then decide what to do with it.

yea that makes sense but probably just aol it when im done so I can sell the phone cause the longer we wait supply will catch up with demand. there will still be money to be made but the days of selling an opened one for above retail will close

on a side note did you find out what time pre orders go live for nexus tomoro? specifically eastern time and to make sure the vzw version will be available.? or will they delay it for extra turbo sales
 
You also could keep it suspended w/o billing for 180 days once you are done riding this gravy train and then decide what to do with it.
The only risk I see with this is that Verizon could do the following:

a) eliminate UDPs;
b) eliminate the option of AOLing a UDP line with UDP intact; and/or
c) enforce the asterisk and require you to move to a minimum $30/mo 2GB plan.


Wrt "a", if they do that they have to give you 60 days written notice and if you object they have to either give you UDP back or let you out of the contract w/o paying the etf.

Wrt "b", if they do that they don't have to give you any notice and don't have to let you out of your contract w/o paying the etf as the ability to AOL a line with UDP intact is not part of your contract.

Wrt "c", I think you could successfully argue that despite the asterisk, they gave you UDP so they have to let you out of the contract w/o the etf.


So the most risk is if "b" occurs. But you should have made close to the etf in profit off of selling the iP associated with the line and therefore the risk is a small amount of money once you deduct your profit from the etf.

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on a side note did you find out what time pre orders go live for nexus tomoro? specifically eastern time and to make sure the vzw version will be available.? or will they delay it for extra turbo sales
I did not. I think I need to leave this forum and the SDs forum for a bit and get caught up on reading about the Nexus 6 info.

Bye for now fellow heros - Keep Hope Alive, Keep the Faith, Keep bringin' those affordable iPhones and Verizon UDP lines to the masses!!!!!!!! See you again once I have ordered my new GIGANTIC Nexus!!!!!
 
So I have 6 plus 128gb (from Apple online) due to arrive Friday (ordered sept 28th) but no added line shows in my V account as of today. For those of you who have ordered for home delivery when does the line actually "add" to your account? I'm after my scheduled delivery window so activation should go smoothly :)
 
The only risk I see with this is that Verizon could do the following:

a) eliminate UDPs;
b) eliminate the option of AOLing a UDP line with UDP intact; and/or
c) enforce the asterisk and require you to move to a minimum $30/mo 2GB plan.

Interestingly, the Apple website lets you order the $20/month 300MB plan.

The written T&Cs are silent about the $30/month thing, so you could probably argue that the information on the website isn't part of the contract. If they gave you a month of data at $29.99, technically they "accepted" the terms and thus are changing them if they go back and claim you need to spend $30.
 
The only risk I see with this is that Verizon could do the following:

a) eliminate UDPs;
b) eliminate the option of AOLing a UDP line with UDP intact; and/or
c) enforce the asterisk and require you to move to a minimum $30/mo 2GB plan.


Wrt "a", if they do that they have to give you 60 days written notice and if you object they have to either give you UDP back or let you out of the contract w/o paying the etf.

Wrt "b", if they do that they don't have to give you any notice and don't have to let you out of your contract w/o paying the etf as the ability to AOL a line with UDP intact is not part of your contract.

Wrt "c", I think you could successfully argue that despite the asterisk, they gave you UDP so they have to let you out of the contract w/o the etf.


So the most risk is if "b" occurs. But you should have made close to the etf in profit off of selling the iP associated with the line and therefore the risk is a small amount of money once you deduct your profit from the etf.

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I did not. I think I need to leave this forum and the SDs forum for a bit and get caught up on reading about the Nexus 6 info.

Bye for now fellow heros - Keep Hope Alive, Keep the Faith, Keep bringin' those affordable iPhones and Verizon UDP lines to the masses!!!!!!!! See you again once I have ordered my new GIGANTIC Nexus!!!!!

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The only risk I see with this is that Verizon could do the following:

a) eliminate UDPs;
b) eliminate the option of AOLing a UDP line with UDP intact; and/or
c) enforce the asterisk and require you to move to a minimum $30/mo 2GB plan.


Wrt "a", if they do that they have to give you 60 days written notice and if you object they have to either give you UDP back or let you out of the contract w/o paying the etf.

Wrt "b", if they do that they don't have to give you any notice and don't have to let you out of your contract w/o paying the etf as the ability to AOL a line with UDP intact is not part of your contract.

Wrt "c", I think you could successfully argue that despite the asterisk, they gave you UDP so they have to let you out of the contract w/o the etf.


So the most risk is if "b" occurs. But you should have made close to the etf in profit off of selling the iP associated with the line and therefore the risk is a small amount of money once you deduct your profit from the etf.

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I did not. I think I need to leave this forum and the SDs forum for a bit and get caught up on reading about the Nexus 6 info.

Bye for now fellow heros - Keep Hope Alive, Keep the Faith, Keep bringin' those affordable iPhones and Verizon UDP lines to the masses!!!!!!!! See you again once I have ordered my new GIGANTIC Nexus!!!!!

The way I see this in my tiny brain is unlimited is greater than 2GB.
 
You are AOL'ing the lines to a business you own? And the AOL reps don't blink an eye at you AOLing lines that have not yet had a phone activated on them?


The business division is thrilled to get the lines into their system so no they don't say boo about AOL's from a personal to Biz account and they told me there is no limit to the lines I can have on my biz account. You also get an 8% discount and waved activation fees , free SIM's on a biz account
 
The business division is thrilled to get the lines into their system so no they don't say boo about AOL's from a personal to Biz account and they told me there is no limit to the lines I can have on my biz account. You also get an 8% discount and waved activation fees , free SIM's on a biz account

Is there any big difference in a business account & a personal account besides the account being in a business name?
 
Hello everyone I have a question for you. My current plan is Nationwide 700 minute talk and text. Primary line has Unlimited data the 2nd line is just a basic phone and the third line has the 6GB max plan. I would like to do an add a line and ship to home. I have gone through the add a line process and the Unlimited Iphone option is available. I was reading through some of the messages previously and Jules Jam said that the 700 MIN talk and text plan wasn't compatible? I am not doing an AOL or anything I just want the line for myself. Could someone please clarify.
 
Is there any big difference in a business account & a personal account besides the account being in a business name?

pretty much the same except they ask for a fed tax id instead of SSN and they would probably run a credit check on the business to open the account

The biz division is generally more knowledgeable and nicer to deal with than regular CSR's
 
pretty much the same except they ask for a fed tax d instead of SSN and they would probably run a credit check on the business to open the account

The biz division is generally more knowledgeable and nicer to deal with than regular CSR's

Good to know, thanks. I'm going to look into a business account a little more. If it's worth it I will change my account into a business account.
 
pretty much the same except they ask for a fed tax id instead of SSN and they would probably run a credit check on the business to open the account

The biz division is generally more knowledgeable and nicer to deal with than regular CSR's



ermm, I might consider open business line and park the line there. how easy to AOL line from business account ?
 
One of my buddies AOL'ed a UDP line from me the other day. He has a Verzion 4G LTE Boadband Router with Voice http://www.verizonwireless.com/home-office-solutions/4g-lte-broadband-router-with-voice/ He wants to use the SIM from his iPhone 5S with a Nano to Micro SIM adapter & use it on his second UDP line. It's easy to do, the bottom battery access panel comes off then you remove the torx screws & you can access the Mini SIM card.

Has anyone done this or know if it's possible? I have no clue since I only tether my MBA to my iPhone 6.
 
Hello everyone I have a question for you. My current plan is Nationwide 700 minute talk and text. Primary line has Unlimited data the 2nd line is just a basic phone and the third line has the 6GB max plan. I would like to do an add a line and ship to home. I have gone through the add a line process and the Unlimited Iphone option is available. I was reading through some of the messages previously and Jules Jam said that the 700 MIN talk and text plan wasn't compatible? I am not doing an AOL or anything I just want the line for myself. Could someone please clarify.

You should be fine. If you're able to submit the order without issues, just make sure the activation scan in-store goes through without any hiccups and you'll be all set.

If the Apple rep needs to call Verizon for any reason, most people abandon the transaction and just cancel the order. For those of us who were successful, we order online and pick up in-store. Apple rep will scan the phone, have you sign a couple things on their handheld and activation will process on their handheld device without issue. Go home and confirm UDP showing on the new line and you are all set.

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I'm guessing his UDP line with get nailed by Verizon fairly quick?

Lots of folks here are able to put their SIM into a tablet or MiFi without any issues. Just never call into Verizon or go into a store while the SIM is active any of those devices. People have had UDP lines taken away if Verizon reps see them active in tablets or MiFis.

So yeah. Just tell him it's at his own risk
 
hnamanh, You said you had an issue with ur order with the 700 minute talk and text plan? What error did you get?
 
I'm guessing his UDP line with get nailed by Verizon fairly quick?

Actually V has admitted that FCC regs prohibit them from restricting what device a subscriber uses their SIM in. Now if you call V and try to add a jetpack or tablet to a smartphone line they will say it's an incompatible device plan and they won't do it w/oa plan change but if you SIM swap they have to allow it under FCC regs and I read 2 articles from 2012 (as I recall) where V basically admitted this

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ermm, I might consider open business line and park the line there. how easy to AOL line from business account ?

no problem at all and better nicer reps with a dedicated business line to avoid the standard CSR's
 
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