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I don't even know what to say to this:

eBay buyer:


Umm.. Sense of entitlement much? You agreed to the eBay contract - deal with it. This isn't Walmart... I don't have a Price Match Guarantee

Wtf.

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So, this was how I responded...

I would say "but sir you received the true unlimited unlimited plan the newer plans are partially throttled plans so not as unlimited as the one you got"
 
Haha... Would you really?

sure let it fly maybe it will stick lol. I sell health beverages on the bay among other things and I had a lady say "My husband and I drank all 6 bottles of the beverage we purchased and it gave us good energy but not as much energy as usual so we would like a full refund plus the cost to return the 6 empty bottles" (btw I always ship free) and she was serious claiming that I in turn to go back to the manufacturer and try to get their 30 day guarantee to get my money back...the crazy stuff people will come up with
 
I bought 3 new mbr1400's off the bay today for $200 each and missed one for $199 on an offer this morning that the seller got $249 to a sucker / greater fool. There is a nice used unit currently listed for $195 or offer that the seller will take $185 for with free shipping which is a great deal



Damn you for calling me sucker / greater fool.:mad: :p I did check previous sold price and many sold at $250++ for brand new units. I did offer $215 and he decline. When I saw another offer coming in, I didn't want to miss it. I might have overpaid for it but item is on UPS truck already. :)

Many UML 295 went for less than $50 last month. So I'll wait. UML 290 is less than $10.
 
the whole SOCAL region got inundated with stock of 6+ today, I personally added 10 lines online and picked up the phones. I think I am out after todays score (i am sure this is a lie)

so is that 10 lines all added online and picked up in store or the 100% in store method?

You had a busy day my friend lmfao :eek::eek::eek:

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Damn you for calling me sucker / greater fool.:mad: :p I did check previous sold price and many sold at $250++ for brand new units. I did offer $215 and he decline. When I saw another offer coming in, I didn't want to miss it. I might have overpaid for it but item is on UPS truck already. :)

Many UML 295 went for less than $50 last month. So I'll wait. UML 290 is less than $10.

lol sorry bro I take back everything I said! Actually $249 for new in the box is a steal of steals I'm just pissed I woke up late and missed it :)

290 will work but the 295 is more refined and yes there will be some cheaper units you just have to watch daily to snag them
 
sure let it fly maybe it will stick lol. I sell health beverages on the bay among other things and I had a lady say "My husband and I drank all 6 bottles of the beverage we purchased and it gave us good energy but not as much energy as usual so we would like a full refund plus the cost to return the 6 empty bottles" (btw I always ship free) and she was serious claiming that I in turn to go back to the manufacturer and try to get their 30 day guarantee to get my money back...the crazy stuff people will come up with

I lost count how many people want to sue me / report to BBB or Attorney General / tell all their family not to buy from / fill in the blank for denying return beyond my return period.
 
Damn, these eBay buyers are taking forever to take over the lines. I even put must must take over line within 2 days of payment.

I want to do a cancel transaction but I think they can still leave feedback, which will probably be negative. Any ideas?
 
Apple store question; Friday my iphone ordered online from Apple will arrive. When can I order again from Apple online (or in store) is it when I sign for the delivery or when I activate the line or some other date / time ? Thanks for any insight!

does a pending online Apple order prevent an add a line in store purchase?

I'll be in a sales tax free state loaded with available iphones tomorrow so I'd like to grab what I can while I'm there

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Damn, these eBay buyers are taking forever to take over the lines. I even put must must take over line within 2 days of payment.

I want to do a cancel transaction but I think they can still leave feedback, which will probably be negative. Any ideas?

the buyer has all the control and can leave feedback anytime in the next few months (I forget the exact time frame) I would contact them "nicely" offering to assist them in the AOL including walking them through the process or doing a 3 way call with V to get it done. The key when contacting them is to make it seem like you are offering to help them or to make it easier for them if they think it's for your benefit they tend to get hissy lol. throw in a little malarkey like "Verizon may cancel the UDP if the line sets for to long with no phone on the line" etc again make like you are all about helping them :)
 
Even if the seller cancels the transaction?

yes a seller actually cannot cancel w/o the buyer agreeing. If the buyer will not agree to cancel the seller still gets stuck with the fees and the buyer can always leave feedback regardless. The buyer, ebay and Paypal hold all the cards the sellers are totally and completely at their mercy so be nice, smile and make the buyer happy at all costs unless a neg and the loss of some fees etc doesn't matter
 
yes a seller actually cannot cancel w/o the buyer agreeing. If the buyer will not agree to cancel the seller still gets stuck with the fees and the buyer can always leave feedback regardless. The buyer, ebay and Paypal hold all the cards the sellers are totally and completely at their mercy so be nice, smile and make the buyer happy at all costs unless a neg and the loss of some fees etc doesn't matter
But what if the terms of the sale had conditions such as buyer needed to assume liability w/in X number of days. Even if the buyer does not fulfil their part of the contract - i.e., they do not assume liability w/in X number of days - they still get to leave negative feedback?

IOW - even if the buyer breaches the contract to the point the sale is never completed, they still get to leave negative feedback?

Because if so, you have a GREAT cause of action depending on what they said in the negative feedback against the buyer for libel/defamation if they leave you negative feedback because THEY breached the contract.
 
But what if the terms of the sale had conditions such as buyer needed to assume liability w/in X number of days. Even if the buyer does not fulfil their part of the contract - i.e., they do not assume liability w/in X number of days - they still get to leave negative feedback?

IOW - even if the buyer breaches the contract to the point the sale is never completed, they still get to leave negative feedback?

Because if so, you have a GREAT cause of action depending on what they said in the negative feedback against the buyer for libel/defamation if they leave you negative feedback because THEY breached the contract.

ebay is only concerned with the sale and any time constraints a seller may try to add won't have any bearing on the sale or the buyers ability to leave feedback. The only exception is if you can prove the buyer intentionally "bombed" your feedback ie left feedback before the seller could possibly perform etc. Remember the feedback is merely the buyers opinion of your performance in the transaction and if they don't say anything untruthful there is no grounds for libel
 
yes a seller actually cannot cancel w/o the buyer agreeing. If the buyer will not agree to cancel the seller still gets stuck with the fees and the buyer can always leave feedback regardless. The buyer, ebay and Paypal hold all the cards the sellers are totally and completely at their mercy so be nice, smile and make the buyer happy at all costs unless a neg and the loss of some fees etc doesn't matter

Thank you sir. I shall wait patiently. Don't want to jeopardize my good feedback. Haha
 
if they don't say anything untruthful there is no grounds for libel
As I said, it depends on what was said in the feedback but if the basis of leaving negative feedback is that the buyer breached the contract, there is a cause of action against the buyer. You could force ebay to remove the feedback too. You couldn't win damages against ebay but you could force them to remove it.
 
As I said, it depends on what was said in the feedback but if the basis of leaving negative feedback is that the buyer breached the contract, there is a cause of action against the buyer. You could force ebay to remove the feedback too. You couldn't win damages against ebay but you could force them to remove it.

whew litigation must be your middle name most people don't have a hundred grand and 5 years to spend in court over 99 cent ebay sales

Way back in the 90"s i had a buyer leave a crappy feedback and I in turn left him a Cleveland Steamer of a feedback so he did go to his companies attorneys and wanted to file for defamation but his attorneys told him that unless his legal name was "ebayuserxx6969" you could not defame an alias, also because he was just a buyer and not a seller he could not argue damages for any lost business etc so we both agreed to remove feedback and that was that

Another time I got in a small argument but the buyer was a big high powered "Esquire" and he was in court every day so it was easy for him to file a monster case against me as "John Doe ebay seller" and he was able to name 2 other parties I was affiliated with even though they had nothing to do with the case. Needless to say I learned to grovel and eat some crow and he dropped the case but you never know who your ebay customer is so sugar is always better than vinegar (Strangely enough we became friends and attend many big car shows and auctions together every year since)

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Thank you sir. I shall wait patiently. Don't want to jeopardize my good feedback. Haha

10-4 you'll be just fine my friend ;)
 
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whew litigation must be your middle name most people don't have a hundred grand and 5 years to spend in court over 99 cent ebay sales
You are ridiculously exaggerating the cost of litigation as well as the time frame of small claims court. You watch too much TV/movies.

I don't sell on ebay but if I did and my feedback were important to me, it would be worth the small claims court filing fee for me to keep it clean. But then again, I don't have to do any extra work to know how to do it.
 
You are ridiculously exaggerating the cost of litigation as well as the time frame of small claims court. You watch too much TV/movies.

I don't sell on ebay but if I did and my feedback were important to me, it would be worth the small claims court filing fee for me to keep it clean. But then again, I don't have to do any extra work to know how to do it.

is there anything you won't argue? I know you think ebay and paypal are or must be a fair arena for sellers but you are sadly and grossly mistaken
 
You are ridiculously exaggerating the cost of litigation as well as the time frame of small claims court. You watch too much TV/movies.

I don't sell on ebay but if I did and my feedback were important to me, it would be worth the small claims court filing fee for me to keep it clean. But then again, I don't have to do any extra work to know how to do it.

trust me, it's not worth it. I rather put energy on to keep selling and make more $$$.
 
his attorneys told him that unless his legal name was "ebayuserxx6969" you could not defame an alias
His attorneys were far less than the best the legal profession has to offer. If there were no way at all that anyone could identify him from that alias then they would have a point. But if he were identifiable to even one person from that alias, those attorneys are well, as I said, far less than the best the legal profession has to offer.

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trust me, it's not worth it. I rather put energy on to keep selling and make more $$$.
It's not worth it to you. That is a personal choice and an opinion of yours. I have my own standards as to what is worth me standing up for my principles regardless of the monetary cost. Some people value money more than principles. I am not of that ilk.

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Another time I got in a small argument but the buyer was a big high powered "Esquire" and he was in court every day so it was easy for him to file a monster case against me as "John Doe ebay seller" and he was able to name 2 other parties I was affiliated with even though they had nothing to do with the case. Needless to say I learned to grovel and eat some crow and he dropped the case but you never know who your ebay customer is so sugar is always better than vinegar (Strangely enough we became friends and attend many big car shows and auctions together every year since)
You got intimidated b/c you didn't know the law. No one scares me.
 
[/COLOR]You got intimidated b/c you didn't know the law. No one scares me.

yes he actually had a slim case but he was an attorney so he had no legal costs except filing fees so he could have buried me for years in court as well as two of my business friends who didn't deserve any part of it so I took care of it really for my friends sake I was dumb enough to fight if it was just me

If you talk like this to your ebay customers you're going to get a chance to test your theories and the other party (ebay, paypal the little guys you think you'll walk over lol) can always escalate to superior court so be ware little Mrs expert
 
little Mrs expert
It's Dr. Expert.

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yes he actually had a slim case but he was an attorney so he had no legal costs except filing fees so he could have buried me for years in court
actually, judges by and large do not favor attorneys filing on behalf of themselves against little guys. Judges are very harsh on attorneys filing pro se against non-attorneys. They cut the non-attorneys a lot of slack and hold the pro se attorneys to an attorney standard.

Unless the judges are corrupt (which does happen but not in my neck of the woods). If you live in a small town, Louisiana or Chicago, well then, I can't say.

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If you talk like this to your ebay customers you're going to get a chance to test your theories

Never sold on ebay, only on swappa and I only have received 5 star feedback.

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Lots of gold iPhones in my neck of the woods. I really don't like the white faces myself but I bought a 64GB gold one b/c there were no other 64GB phones to buy.

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can always escalate to superior court
Not sure what you mean by superior court. What a state calls their trial court varies by state.

I am guessing you mean an appellate court but you would have to let me know what you mean b/c the concept of "escalation" is not appropriately applied to an appellate court.
 
All 10 were ordered online. The inventory was so bountiful that I would order 2, pick them up and then order 2 more in the store using one of the store computers.

I started keeping track, it took approximately 9 mins between order confirmation to "ready to pickup". All in all it took about 4 hrs for it all to go down.

Not too bad considering the people waiting in line who didnt have a personal pickup were easily waiting 1.5 to 2 hrs, the line snaked a good distance outside of the store.

All in all I will keep 10 UDPS for me & my business and sell off 10 UDP's from my wifes account. I dont want to piss off the VZW g-d's so its probably best to call it quits before they suspend my account from any more changes.

I am so very afraid of seeing my VZW bill, easily going to be in the $2k range but fortunately I can write it off as a business expense.



so is that 10 lines all added online and picked up in store or the 100% in store method?

You had a busy day my friend lmfao :eek::eek::eek:

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lol sorry bro I take back everything I said! Actually $249 for new in the box is a steal of steals I'm just pissed I woke up late and missed it :)

290 will work but the 295 is more refined and yes there will be some cheaper units you just have to watch daily to snag them
 
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