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[/COLOR]I have had the same thing happen to me a few times.

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We all are seeing different screens depending on our plans.

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the rep screwed up then.[/QUOTE]

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Called back in the morning and morning rep took care of it. (Should've listened to the advice to not call at night) The guy knew exactly what I was trying to do got it solved. Probably the most knowledgeable rep I've ever talked to. So knowledgeable that I wanted to speak to his supervisor and tell him how great a worker he has , but didn't because I didn't want them to dig into the account
 
I don't even know what to say to this:

eBay buyer:


Umm.. Sense of entitlement much? You agreed to the eBay contract - deal with it. This isn't Walmart... I don't have a Price Match Guarantee

Wtf.

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So, this was how I responded...

WTF! I definitely would not give any sort of refund!

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lots of UML295 available for $60 on ebay just make the seller an offer, he was selling for $55 a week ago

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the sweet nectar of success I'll have my Plus 128gb SG tomorrow so my fingers are crossed

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I bought 3 new mbr1400's off the bay today for $200 each and missed one for $199 on an offer this morning that the seller got $249 to a sucker / greater fool. There is a nice used unit currently listed for $195 or offer that the seller will take $185 for with free shipping which is a great deal

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not a cheap setup but it will rock your world! $300 should cover a used mbr1400, a Pantech UML295, external antenna adapter and a Wilson Cellular Trucker external antenna. No sense having a rocking system like this w/o the external antenna to grab and transmit max signal for max banbwidth / pipe

I'm eliminating my archaic and slow Qwest DSL lines I've been using for ip cam security which will save $60 per month per location so almost enough to cover the UDP lines with my biz discount

I was thinking for my parents house.... at the end probably going to vote against it.... too many moving parts means too many things can go wrong and i'm 3 hours away.
They have fios, which cost more and at this point, worse then cable. Maybe time to switch them back to cable and maybe a mac min. Simplify my life.

But I am going to get a mifi for travel, suspend when not in use. milk udp to its fullest potential. *we also have fios at home* and also have problems. Damn you verizon!

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Damn, these eBay buyers are taking forever to take over the lines. I even put must must take over line within 2 days of payment.

I want to do a cancel transaction but I think they can still leave feedback, which will probably be negative. Any ideas?

It has gotten so bad out there. Some a - hole used buy it now, did not contact me for 48 hrs. I finally cancelled and check out his profile, he had a line for cheaper on sale. To wedge out competition, he wasted three days of my time. Ebay even charged a listing fee for it. Had to open a claim. At the end I am also afraid to leave any sort of feedback for him.
Better not be one of you......
 
All 10 were ordered online. The inventory was so bountiful that I would order 2, pick them up and then order 2 more in the store using one of the store computers.

I started keeping track, it took approximately 9 mins between order confirmation to "ready to pickup". All in all it took about 4 hrs for it all to go down.

Not too bad considering the people waiting in line who didnt have a personal pickup were easily waiting 1.5 to 2 hrs, the line snaked a good distance outside of the store.

All in all I will keep 10 UDPS for me & my business and sell off 10 UDP's from my wifes account. I dont want to piss off the VZW g-d's so its probably best to call it quits before they suspend my account from any more changes.

I am so very afraid of seeing my VZW bill, easily going to be in the $2k range but fortunately I can write it off as a business expense.

that's awesome! Thanks for the reply I'k geeking to receive my plus ordered September 28th (should arrive today) so I can do about the exact same thing as you. I'll camp in my RV between Apple stores as long as it takes to git er done lol
 
yes a seller actually cannot cancel w/o the buyer agreeing. If the buyer will not agree to cancel the seller still gets stuck with the fees and the buyer can always leave feedback regardless. The buyer, ebay and Paypal hold all the cards the sellers are totally and completely at their mercy so be nice, smile and make the buyer happy at all costs unless a neg and the loss of some fees etc doesn't matter

That what I meant before. Ebay and Paypal are evil, evil..... and they can force credit card company to do a charge back, and guess who get stuck with the neg feedback and the lost?
 
What's the monthly cost of a UDP line with 700 minutes and some texting (200 or less)?
700 minutes is a family share line. Do you want a family share or do you want an individual line?

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The only choices for text are payg, $10 for 1000 or $20 for UL for individual plans/$30 for UL for family share plans. There is a $5 for 250 text option when you add a line from apple but if you did not select that when you added the line you cannot change to it later b/c it is no longer offered.
 
I've run out of ideas to unload these UDPs. Anyone find any new exciting ways to get rid of these things?
 
On Verizon, about $110 a month tax included.

Give or take.
700 minutes is a family share plan and it makes no sense financially to have a single line family share plan.

If someone wants the 900 minute individual plan with 250 texts and UDP, it would be $95/mo. The taxes and fees depend heavily on the state but where I live it would come to about $102/mo after taxes and fees. If you could live with 450 minutes, it would be $20 less per month.

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I've run out of ideas to unload these UDPs. Anyone find any new exciting ways to get rid of these things?

I think at this point all of the easy venues where you just list and people buy are saturated. If you want to continue to do this you are going to have put more effort into cultivating new customers.
 
700 minutes is a family share plan and it makes no sense financially to have a single line family share plan.

If someone wants the 900 minute individual plan with 250 texts and UDP, it would be $95/mo. The taxes and fees depend heavily on the state but where I live it would come to about $102/mo after taxes and fees. If you could live with 450 minutes, it would be $20 less per month.

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I think at this point all of the easy venues where you just list and people buy are saturated. If you want to continue to do this you are going to have put more effort into cultivating new customers.

I'm thinking of flipping UDPs with Nexus 6. Can I put you down as my first customer?
 
I'm thinking of flipping UDPs with Nexus 6. Can I put you down as my first customer?
hahahahahaha, I can wait for my Nexus 6! I am actually going to miss all of the features on my Moto X. I hope the devs can come up with ROMs or apps that emulate them.
 
we need to have guest speakers marky and cnote to enlighten us....
I think marky lives in a rural area so he was able to unload a bunch early on locally (he can correct me if I am wrong). Also he has been an ebay UDP seller for a long time so I am sure he has a bunch of positive feedback as a seller.

Idk about CNotes but my guess is that if CNotes has any tricks up his sleeve he isn't going to post them here.
 
700 minutes is a family share plan and it makes no sense financially to have a single line family share plan.

If someone wants the 900 minute individual plan with 250 texts and UDP, it would be $95/mo. The taxes and fees depend heavily on the state but where I live it would come to about $102/mo after taxes and fees. If you could live with 450 minutes, it would be $20 less per month.

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I think at this point all of the easy venues where you just list and people buy are saturated. If you want to continue to do this you are going to have put more effort into cultivating new customers.
So if I wanted 450 minutes with 250 texts, the texts would have to be added at the time of adding the new line through Apple. Then it would be $75 plus tax. If I already have Verizon, how do I get my phone number on the UDP line? For me to do this I guess I would have to find someone to add a line to their UDP plan to get he new line with UDP and pick the 450 minutes and 250 texts for me and the do the AOL to me?
 
So if I wanted 450 minutes with 250 texts, the texts would have to be added at the time of adding the new line through Apple. Then it would be $75 plus tax. If I already have Verizon, how do I get my phone number on the UDP line? For me to do this I guess I would have to find someone to add a line to their UDP plan to get he new line with UDP and pick the 450 minutes and 250 texts for me and the do the AOL to me?


you can accept a line by creating a sub-account or a separate line with individual plan. One account with two individual lines, or two accounts, same difference.
Then you can pick different voice plan for those.
 
So if I wanted 450 minutes with 250 texts, the texts would have to be added at the time of adding the new line through Apple.
Yes.

Then it would be $75 plus tax.
Yes - $40/mo for the 450 minutes, $5/mo for the 250 texts and $30/mo for the UDP = $75/mo.

If I already have Verizon, how do I get my phone number on the UDP line?
Do you want to terminate your current line? If so, you port to page plus for I think $10. If not, you port to google voice for $20 but GV takes awhile to port back into Verizon.

For me to do this I guess I would have to find someone to add a line to their UDP plan to get he new line with UDP and pick the 450 minutes and 250 texts for me and the do the AOL to me?
Most of us add these lines on a FS plan. What the person needs to do is add a line and choose the 250 minute texts for that line. Then they need to have the AOL department convert the line into a 450 minute individual line not changing the $5 texts or UDP.

Since you already have a line in your account, it is safest to AOL the new UDP line as a 450 min/250 text/UDP line into a subaccount. If you try to AOL it into the main account you may get some idiot rep who merges it with your existing line into a NW family share plan. That can be undone as long as they don't mess with the UDP but it is a hassle to undo it. You don't want that to happen and while if you get a good rep they will understand that if you tell them that, you can't count on getting a good rep.

Once the new UDP line is in your subaccount, you can port your current number to page plus and terminate your existing line then you put your current phone on the new UDP line and port your number back to the UDP line. You should be able to accomplish this all in 1 day if you start in the morning.

If you want to keep your current line, then you have to use GV but it won't be accomplished in 1 day.

Never AOL a UDP line into an account with a More Everything plan in it - you will lose the UDP and that can't be undone.
 
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Then you can pick different voice plan for those.
If I were a buyer, I would insist that the seller make the changes to the line that I want given this market. Let the seller take the risk of getting an idiot rep who messes things up.

Otherwise the buyer will be stuck trying to explain to an AOL rep that they want a single line family share plan converted to a 450 min individual plan w/o changing the text or UDP. If you get a good rep, fine it will work. If not, who knows what you will end up getting once they are done and if your seller just acquired the line that day, there will be no record that the line ever had UDP if the UDP is lost that day.

My advice to buyers - there are enough of these lines out there that you can dictate that the seller convert the line to what you want BEFORE you agree to AOL it. Double check with the AOL rep that the line is what you want before you go through with the AOL making sure to tell the rep you don't want anything changed.
 
If I were a buyer, I would insist that the seller make the changes to the line that I want given this market. Let the seller take the risk of getting an idiot rep who messes things up.

Otherwise the buyer will be stuck trying to explain to an AOL rep that they want a single line family share plan converted to a 450 min individual plan w/o changing the text or UDP. If you get a good rep, fine it will work. If not, who knows what you will end up getting once they are done and if your seller just acquired the line that day, there will be no record that the line ever had UDP if the UDP is lost that day.

My advice to buyers - there are enough of these lines out there that you can dictate that the seller convert the line to what you want BEFORE you agree to AOL it.

There are no "buyers" anymore, that's the problem. If someone is actually paying, then I dont mind doing all the leg work. If everything is done within 24-48 hrs, then it may not be so bad. As a seller, I have to 1. create a subaccount, 2. move out the line with what the buyer wants, 3. aol the line with all the correct "settings."

I think that's what people can demand now, which I understand. Also remember for the sellers, all these subaccounts stay on the record, at least for a while. I current have 4 different sub accounts on my parents account, even though only two has any lines in there. When I call, reps still refer to them as sub3, and 1.
 
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There are no "buyers" anymore, that's the problem. If someone is actually paying, then I dont mind doing all the leg work. If everything is done within 24-48 hrs, then it may not be so bad. As a seller, I have to 1. create a subaccount, 2. move out the line with what the buyer wants, 3. aol the line with all the correct "settings."
If you don't want to accommodate your buyer's needs you can keep your UDP lines suspended w/o billing and hope the glitch is eventually closed so you can sell these someday. Or find buyers who will put up with you not accommodating them.

I think that's what people can demand now, but also remember for the sellers, all these subaccounts stay on the record, at least for a while. I current have 4 different sub accounts on my parents account, even though only two has any lines in there.....
You can have them closed. Still, that is your problem not the buyer's problem. You may not think of them as buyers but they are AOLing YOUR contractual debt. So yes, they are buyers.

My advice to buyers still stands - in this market you have the leverage so put the burden on the seller to make the changes to the line. If they won't, don't buy from them. Find a seller who will. If sellers can't unload their lines, they can't buy more iPhones to flip or worse, will be stuck paying the etf on the line. You will be able to find a seller who will accommodate you.
 
Contract question-

The forum is full of stories about "I went into a corporate store and they changed my UDP to 2GB", etc... as long as you are under contract and current, wouldn't this be considered changes to the term of the contract which would let you demand out without ETF? Makes sense in my head, but wondering if it is true in experience as well.
 
I've run out of ideas to unload these UDPs. Anyone find any new exciting ways to get rid of these things?
The recent discussion here has sparked an idea - advertise on your ebay listing that you will get someone a "custom" UDP line meaning you will convert the minutes and texts of the line to the buyer's specifications BEFORE they AOL the line rather than sticking them with that burden.

You will be able to steal all of didiee's customers from him since he won't do this for his buyers, lol!
 
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