Most games on Mac are garbage. By most, I mean nearly all. And the absolute best games, even if they were available on Mac, would run like hot garbage.
Can you imagine playing Battlefield 5 in Mac OS on some crappy mobile GPU? LOL
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Most games on Mac are garbage. By most, I mean nearly all. And the absolute best games, even if they were available on Mac, would run like hot garbage.
Can you imagine playing Battlefield 5 in Mac OS on some crappy mobile GPU? LOL
There is no Mac with decent GPU, the Mac Pro GPU was already old on release date.
Always laugh when people proclaim PC gaming to be dead. I’ve been playing flight simulators since the mid eighties and for a while after Microsoft dropped Flight Simulator, it looked about as niche as it could get, but it persevered because of how enthusiastic hardcore flight simmers can be. My rudder pedals were made by some furniture maker in Croatia, my stick and throttle by a small company in Belarus and even imported a vibrating seat cushion (so you can experience the joy of doing A-10 gun runs with the GAU-8 30mm) straight from Russia. Then suddenly Microsoft announced a new Flight Simulator and suddenly everyone wanted gear for their new hobby. Trust me, PC gaming will be fine and we will get over the current GPU stock/pricing hurdles.
Let me merge topics. Before the lawsuit I played Fortnite on my 2018 iPad pro (2048x2732), 120fps with an Xbox controller, and it ran better than my Xbox. It didn't even get hot. I'm sure that set up beats most non-gaming PCs by a long shot.
That experience is a fairly short step away given the M1X and future Apple silicon.
The M1's have the same amount of RAM as the PS4 so it should be pretty straight forward, right? I mean I keep being told in other threads that Apple Silicon can do everything a discrete GPU can do, and all the PS4 had was a GCN iGPU, so we should be good right?
Well, it’s not a disrespect, the core issue is macOS and non expandable hardware. Gamers want to replace the GPU;CPU expand RAM from time to time, and use the latest tech. And all this is not possible with a Mac. Nobody is crazy enough to buy a whole new system every year, maybe if you won at the lottery. Even if someone can, Apple simply does not offer decent hardware for gaming, the price/value sucks.
Mac Laptops offer better overall experience than 100% of PCs 😉😄
Cough Cough, the PS4 is +/- 7 years old and wasn’t even the latest tech on release date.
I own a M1 and use it for a few stuff, simply because the battery last long, but for gaming it sucks.
I doubt it had the same shader features as a Xbox offers. It was a feature downgraded fortnite.
You know.....I think you may be right. The M1 actually has a more powerful GPU than the PS4 (2.6 TF vs 1.8). That's not a one to one comparison since they are not the same GPU architectures, but that's still a bit of a boost. A native port of Uncharted 4 could actually run pretty well now that I think about it so I stand corrected.
I'm not going to go as far as to say M1 can do whatever a discrete GPU though. You've got dedicated high RAM and a lot more compute units. But there is a lot more room for optimization like consoles since we are not talking about a ton of hardware configurations lack with gaming PCs. It will definitely be interesting to see what some native ports to M1 look like.
Intel is 100% correct. If your main purpose for buying a computer is to play video gamers, a Mac is a very poor choise.
Macs are still a lot better for those who are "content creators" but that is only about 1/2 a percent of all computer users. Most are "content consumers".
For most people, it comes down to style, ease of use, battery life, and reliability. Apple has a slight advantage in these areas.
Macs are still a lot better for those who are "content creators" but that is only about 1/2 a percent of all computer users. Most are "content consumers".
For most people, it comes down to style, ease of use, battery life, and reliability. Apple has a slight advantage in these areas.
Well, even the term “content creators” needs to be broken down to make a mac be equally good.
You're comparing quantity vs quantity+quality. iPad Pro mobile graphics quality is below PC low graphics quality. Try running Doom Eternal at ~400fps at ultra nightmare quality which is five steps above low.
The Mac is bad for games until we get arm based windows natively supported through boot camp etc (I know it can already be done).
I want a new Mac but I always want something to play some older games on but they’re only windows games. It annoys me o have to look at a pc if I want that aspect.
I want a new Mac but I always want something to play some older games on but they’re only windows games. It annoys me o have to look at a pc if I want that aspect.
Intel isn't wrong with this distinction. It's a shame that Apple cares so little about this market. I know it's the root cause of decision that is coming up soon. My son has an iMac, but also plays games on Play Station. He's expressed interest in playing games on the computer. So now, because Apple ignores gaming on their computers, I am pretty much being forced to go with a PC for my son.
Oh well, it was good while it lasted Apple. Seems that you don't want my son as a computer customer
Don't worry, I already know your response Apple - What's a computer? 👎
Oh well, it was good while it lasted Apple. Seems that you don't want my son as a computer customer
Don't worry, I already know your response Apple - What's a computer? 👎
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Personally I don’t care that much about gaming itself but the specs that make a good gaming computer make a good computer for scientific computing.
lolz!
This is super funny because, yes I do use a PC for gaming, but no, it's an I7 that I bought and built myself first in 2013 (I think?), then upgraded CPU, motherboard, and memory in 2016. That was almost 5 years ago and I reused my GTX 980 graphic cards from that first build. All of that stuff still works today for anything I play on Steam, and quite frankly, I still prefer to game on that old desktop machine rather than on my more modern i9 laptop with an RTX 2080 GPU in it.
So yes Intel, old Intel PCs are better than Macs for gaming. You win, Intel!
I just don't know how you keep it real; you know, with all of this winning and all that doesn't even require sales to happen! I mean, it's a wonder you even let pleebs like me buy your products, since you're spending so much time winning and winning and winning some more, just for good measure.
And you're doing it without people like me even buying! That's a miracle, and I don't know how you can take all of this winning!
This is super funny because, yes I do use a PC for gaming, but no, it's an I7 that I bought and built myself first in 2013 (I think?), then upgraded CPU, motherboard, and memory in 2016. That was almost 5 years ago and I reused my GTX 980 graphic cards from that first build. All of that stuff still works today for anything I play on Steam, and quite frankly, I still prefer to game on that old desktop machine rather than on my more modern i9 laptop with an RTX 2080 GPU in it.
So yes Intel, old Intel PCs are better than Macs for gaming. You win, Intel!
I just don't know how you keep it real; you know, with all of this winning and all that doesn't even require sales to happen! I mean, it's a wonder you even let pleebs like me buy your products, since you're spending so much time winning and winning and winning some more, just for good measure.
And you're doing it without people like me even buying! That's a miracle, and I don't know how you can take all of this winning!
I'd say a lot of the abuse is basically gone on Live too. It's a double-edged sword—because people are often muted by default or will quickly mute everyone, you miss out on a lot of the camaraderie of teamspeak. But you also don't have someone insulting you for <pick reason out of a hat>.
The early days of voice chat on Xbox Live before everyone got broadband and it was still a non-mainstream thing was a thing of beauty, but like anything once something gets a critical mass community norms die and it becomes a surprise when it's a pleasant experience rather than a neutral or negative one.
I see two absurdities in this: one, the games that aren’t available for Mac, that has nothing to do with Intel and everything to do with Windows (arguably Apple’s and Microsoft’s disparate levels of support towards game producers - still, nothing inherently Intel about that); and, two, when they’re going after Apple’s Intel-based MacBook Pros — Intel is attacking their own incompetence. They’re essentially saying, “man, the chips that we are selling to Apple suck”. If they could have produced Intel chips that simultaneously hit all three pillars of high performance, low heat, and low power, anywhere close to Apple Silicon territory, Apple might not be tossing Intel onto the “bring out yer dead” cart. Intel sounds worried and desperate.
Yet that still doesn’t change the fact that I enjoy gaming on my Mac still. 🤷♂️
I'm thinking all that needs to happen is a truly awesome game built for Apple silicon... something awesome and super popular, and NOT available on Intel Chips due to their limitations vis a vis silicon demands. That'll pretty much be the beginning of the end.
Nobody cares about you, LOL. You don't represent all mac gamers.
So Macs are no good for games...wonderful as it demonstrates my choice of Apple for productivity was a good choice.
Never played a game on my iMacs, as I expect them to earn their keep, which they do relentlessly and without constant interventions, etc.
Must say some of the posts on here look decidedly like they are sponsored by Intel
Why would you even bother to come on to a Mac site, and say you don't use them!
Horses for courses.
My business was originally Wintel based platform and I remember the countless problems reconfiguring daily on some occasions and that win.ini.
The productivity on the Mac is great and long may that continue.
Intel must be really worried at the prospect of the next M series chip to engage in such puerile nonsense.
To make matters worse for themselves they effectively slagged off their own chips!
Playing games does not figure in my companies profitable business.
Never played a game on my iMacs, as I expect them to earn their keep, which they do relentlessly and without constant interventions, etc.
Must say some of the posts on here look decidedly like they are sponsored by Intel
Why would you even bother to come on to a Mac site, and say you don't use them!
Horses for courses.
My business was originally Wintel based platform and I remember the countless problems reconfiguring daily on some occasions and that win.ini.
The productivity on the Mac is great and long may that continue.
Intel must be really worried at the prospect of the next M series chip to engage in such puerile nonsense.
To make matters worse for themselves they effectively slagged off their own chips!
Playing games does not figure in my companies profitable business.
LOL, nobody cares about you either or others who want to play Battlefield 5 on their Mac. You don't represent all mac gamers.