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Penryn iMac and Mac Mini Updates Soon?

jbh001 said:
I think it's rather that 7200 rpm is too hot.
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Friction is the cause of the heat.
Friction is caused by movement of multiple parts.
The factors of the HDD internal movement are speed and surface area.
In a 3.5" HDD, the platters are larger, and there's the potential for more of them to exist in the enclosure.


So I would guess size and speed would both contribute to heat.
 
What they really need

I don't get the whole point of the mac mini, its supposed to be the low end, entry level model, but its small size and use of mobile parts means its more expensive than it needs to be. If they increased the footprint a bit, they could use standard hard drives and reduce the cost at the same time, making it a much more attractive entry level option. Making the case the dimension as their time capsule product (but taller) seems like a better solution, plus it would be stackable. Apple could then develop a mid-price point headless mac that everyone seems to be clamoring for......
 
GoodWatch said:
Well, it was time that I got the Apple Blues anyway. I bought my iMac last October. :(
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I'm in the same boat with my MacBook 2.2 Ghz. I just need to keep telling myself that mine is fine. Because it is. Those iMacs are still the sweetest desktops out there.
 
Like I've said in countless other threads, Apple can get rid of the Ethernet port and the built-in optical drive (users can use "remote disc" or the MBA Superdrive) and drop the entry price to $499..

Who needs Ethernet or the Optical Disc anyways?

(runs and hides...)
 
kennymeyers said:
Hello, Macrumors.

I recently (I mean, really recently) purchased a new iMac 24" with standard options (I'm not sure if Applecare counts as customization, if it does I'm screwed). What I want to know is: can someone direct me to Apple's policy on the matter of exchanging for a newer product. The computer is supposed to arrive next week, so if Apple updates the line, does that mean I'm screwed? I'd really appreciate any help on the matter.
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If they update a model within 14 days of you purchasing, Apple will credit your credit card a certain amount if your iMac already shipped. If it did not, they will automatically upgrade you to the new model.

You do have to contact Apple for this to happen, it's not automatic.
 
chas0001 said:
I cannot wait for an iMac update so that I can get one for my parents. I like the current form factor but slimmer is good too.
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Do your parents care if they have the newest iMac? Just buy an iMac when they need it. Get them a refurb model now and save some money.
 
I don't know why people want Blu-ray.

Unless you have the 24inch you need 1080p resolution 1900x1200 (I think) to even display the blu-ray content.
 
If this really is a stop-gap upgrade until Intel forces the switch this summer, not much will change except for the processor. Apple might even wait for LED until the next upgrade, likely between June and August...
 
gkarris said:
Like I've said in countless other threads, Apple can get rid of the Ethernet port and the built-in optical drive (users can use "remote disc" or the MBA Superdrive) and drop the entry price to $499..

Who needs Ethernet or the Optical Disc anyways?

(runs and hides...)
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Ethernet port please. Wireless has much too much latency for my uses and the transfer rates BLOW (and 802.11N is still not as fast) . I have wireless, never use it as I prefer Ethernet full duplex speeds at 100mbit thank you :)
 
A mini update? Seriously? Will this be a real one, or a non-update like the last couple that will still leave it a turd compared with similar boxes?

It's pretty unbelievable that they've dragged their feet so long on faster wifi.

All models should have superdrive.

4 ram slots, preferably up to 8 gigs available.

Better integrated graphics, with hardware acceleration for h.264. And I'd KILL for dual monitor support on the mini, as far as I'm concerned that would be WAY more useful than boosted gaming performance.

Unfortunately, the case size llimits hard drives to small slow ones, it was a boneheaded move to make it too small to handle a 3.5 inch drive.

The best thing apple could do would be to dump the dumb "mini" design and go with all desktop parts and a bit larger case. They could have better optical and hard drive, more processor options - overall a way better machine for the same price or even less. Best case would be a PCI slot or two and even an open drive bay, but I'm not holding my breath.

The only thing keeping apple from dumping the mini in favor of a great, competitive desktop unit is Steve Jobs's ego. Doing that would be an admission that the mini was a mistake, and he hates to admit a mistake unless he absolutely has to.

evillageprowler said:
I really want a Mini, but I would love it if it got better integrated graphics, WiFi-N and GigE. I don't actually care if it got a updated CPU or a smaller form factor.
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The mini has had gigabit ethernet since the first intel units, maybe longer.

uNext said:
Have you guys rented or seen an hd movie from the apple store?
I have a windows laptop with a blu-ray drive i did a comparison between the two on the laptops lcd and the diffrence between the 2 was very little.
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First, people want the option to buy HD movies, and right now bluray is the best option for that. Second, while you're not going to see a difference on a laptop, a 24 inch imac should support full 1080 resolution, and the mini outputs the resolution, it just needs enough horsepower and/or video card power.

bmk said:
Hate to disappoint you but there is no way Blu-ray is going to find its way into a Mac before 2009. First of all there are practical reasons - expense, not a fully adopted standard etc, and it would mean a major case redesign in any Mac it was going to go in.
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What practical reason would keep a bluray drive out of a Mac Pro? Or require a "major case redesign" to get it into that tower?
 
Brianstorm91 said:
Before the iMac or MBP can? I wouldn't hold your breath.
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Based on how bad they've crapped all over the mini, I really don't expect much of anything...that's what they SHOULD do with it. Even supporting 4 gigs would be a huge bump, but why not more? The iMac is due for an update too, and it should get bumped, and shouldn't a desktop machine be able to handle more ram than a laptop.

One other thing I forgot in my last post...if apple wasn't so obsessed with making the boxes so small, aren't there core quad chips they could potentially use (and aren't they way cheaper than the xenons)? Since most of the mac pros are 8 core now, why not put 4 core options on the high end of the iMac and mini lines?
 
there are many ways in which the mini could be improved, but if they just do what is suggested here, ie, newer chips, 3100 graphics, 4 gb max ram (and I hope 802.11 n), I'll buy one immediately! (good use for my '$100 coupon' for my iPhone before it expires!) :D:D
 
milo said:
A mini update? Seriously? Will this be a real one, or a non-update like the last couple that will still leave it a turd compared with similar boxes?

It's pretty unbelievable that they've dragged their feet so long on faster wifi.

All models should have superdrive.

4 ram slots, preferably up to 8 gigs available.

Better integrated graphics, with hardware acceleration for h.264. And I'd KILL for dual monitor support on the mini, as far as I'm concerned that would be WAY more useful than boosted gaming performance.

Unfortunately, the case size llimits hard drives to small slow ones, it was a boneheaded move to make it too small to handle a 3.5 inch drive.

The best thing apple could do would be to dump the dumb "mini" design and go with all desktop parts and a bit larger case. They could have better optical and hard drive, more processor options - overall a way better machine for the same price or even less. Best case would be a PCI slot or two and even an open drive bay, but I'm not holding my breath.

The only thing keeping apple from dumping the mini in favor of a great, competitive desktop unit is Steve Jobs's ego. Doing that would be an admission that the mini was a mistake, and he hates to admit a mistake unless he absolutely has to.



The mini has had gigabit ethernet since the first intel units, maybe longer.



First, people want the option to buy HD movies, and right now bluray is the best option for that. Second, while you're not going to see a difference on a laptop, a 24 inch imac should support full 1080 resolution, and the mini outputs the resolution, it just needs enough horsepower and/or video card power.



What practical reason would keep a bluray drive out of a Mac Pro? Or require a "major case redesign" to get it into that tower?
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You have completely missed what Mac Mini is for, what it's target customers are and what it should accomplish.

It's a low end computer to attract non-Apple customers to introduce them to OSX and for people who only do basic wok on PC likve Ofiice apps and Internet.

I suggest you buy a Shuttle PC, put a Q9550 chip in it, add 4x2GB RAM and equip with GeForce 9600GT with dual link/dual DVI-I. Happy gaming and leave me my small low end mac.
 
gkarris said:
Like I've said in countless other threads, Apple can get rid of the Ethernet port and the built-in optical drive (users can use "remote disc" or the MBA Superdrive) and drop the entry price to $499..

Who needs Ethernet or the Optical Disc anyways?

(runs and hides...)
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WannaGoMac said:
Ethernet port please. Wireless has much too much latency for my uses and the transfer rates BLOW (and 802.11N is still not as fast) . I have wireless, never use it as I prefer Ethernet full duplex speeds at 100mbit thank you :)
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Small White Car said:
50 GB transfer on gigabit ethernet = Less than an hour

Same thing on any wi-fi = Several days

Come on now...
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Apple's USB-to-Ethernet Adapter is your friend.... :p

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...shop_mac/mac_accessories/cables&nplm=MB442Z/A
 
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