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Persistent Software Problems With iPhone 8 Wireless Charging and 3D Sensor Causing 'Panic' at Apple
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Interesting thought.
However, if that's the thing they want to wow me with I can't say that I'm too optimistic about the new models...
"Wow, it works and the old features are still there!"
Then again the iPhone 7 taught me to not even expect existing features that are used daily to stick around for sure...
welp
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If this is just software based then they can still release the devices in September and enable the features with a software update later, like they did last year with the Bokeh effect on the iPhone 7 Plus. I suspect this isn't even true tho, it happens every year, low yields, the new iPhone may be late, there have been problems with the device's and so on.
IMHO, that is what Apple did with the 7. When Apple couldn't get the tech to work last year, Apple just re-used the 6 design. 4 years with the same design is causing more stress for Apple to innovate this year. Can't innovate my ass.
I'll not be upgrading until next years iPhone anyway so this doesn't effect me, should have all the bugs and problems fixed by then.
That used to be true, it isn't any more. Longstanding companies go through cycles of innovation peaks and subsequently hanging on whilst trying at all costs to please the stock market, with early unfinished releases.
It could appear that Apple are in the latter phase at the moment, unless they shock us at the reveal.
I will ignore these reports until the phone is announced. If at that time it isn't worth the price, I'll start looking at the S8 or Pixel 2.
My 6S can hold out for a while longer but I can't see spending $800 for a 7S that's simply a faster version of the 6S.
My 6S can hold out for a while longer but I can't see spending $800 for a 7S that's simply a faster version of the 6S.
Releasing a phone that is a step backwards with no biometric security is significantly different to releasing one without a bokeh effect though.
They will do just that, actually. It's the iPhone 7s and by the looks of it I will choose that over the iPhone 8.
If that's the case they will likely delay it but i was referring to features like wireless charging. I don't think the rumour is correct anyway, but we will see in September.
Sounds like nonsense to me.
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Yet none of those things were popular until Apple brought them to market. The people that claim Apple has done nothing noteworthy in years are just naive.
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Yet none of those things were popular until Apple brought them to market. The people that claim Apple has done nothing noteworthy in years are just naive.
They could publish a story on here saying "apple to launch iphone 8 without camera, speakers or microphone" and there would still be hundreds of people saying "apple is on the decline", "i'm not surprised by this" and other such ****. Apple have never missed an iPhone launch, have never released a phone that didn't work and there is absolutely nothing to suggest that A) it won't have touchID B) wont be on time C) won't work perfectly
People who know sweet FA about what is actually going on at apple but who coincidentally happen to be in the business of selling click bait articles and news are just doing what they always do. Stirring ****. The iPhone is the most important aspect of apples entire business. They will know the hardware that is going into it already. They will be 100% sure that the software that accompanies the key hardware is solid. Not giving people bokeh for a few months is fine, not giving us a working facial recognition or wireless charging if its included in the hardware is not.
Its the middle of July for gods sake. The iPhone is just over 2 months away. Just think about these rumours in that context and realise that apple are not as retarded as most of the posters buying into the ridiculous doom saying rumours.
People who know sweet FA about what is actually going on at apple but who coincidentally happen to be in the business of selling click bait articles and news are just doing what they always do. Stirring ****. The iPhone is the most important aspect of apples entire business. They will know the hardware that is going into it already. They will be 100% sure that the software that accompanies the key hardware is solid. Not giving people bokeh for a few months is fine, not giving us a working facial recognition or wireless charging if its included in the hardware is not.
Its the middle of July for gods sake. The iPhone is just over 2 months away. Just think about these rumours in that context and realise that apple are not as retarded as most of the posters buying into the ridiculous doom saying rumours.
There would be whining, but I would be very ok with waiting until it is fully cooked. Release it when it's ready!
My thought exactly. If the article is at least somewhat true, this is the problem with the current Apple's insistence on forced release dates, both hardware and software.
Every year, on schedule, there has to be a new version of macos, ios, and watchos. Every year on schedule, there has to be a new iphone.
These arbitrary forced schedules have no real use, and would just seem to lead to rushed hardware and software that isn't quite ready for release.
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'Popular' to you, since you live and breath in the Apple ecosystem and nothing at all exists outside of that?
I have to admit, this gets me nervous.
Might be a case of Apple biting off more than they could chew for the iPhone 8.
Regardless, I hope everything works out in time.
Might be a case of Apple biting off more than they could chew for the iPhone 8.
Regardless, I hope everything works out in time.
My point exactly, they will have known for months exactly what was going into the new iPhones and will have tested and re-tested the software and it's features, they even knew what features where going into the new iPhones at WWDC, every year they hold a few features back from WWDC with the new IOS updates to show along with the new iPhones in September. The iPhone is Apple's best selling device, all work has probably been going on for a while, hell they are probably even working on stuff for next years iPhone's.
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You do realise the amount of pull that Apple has? 1 billion iPhones sold, a very popular device also adding to the fact that when Apple builds something other companies sit up and listen, Apple are not usually the first to do anything but they are usually the BEST to do it, which is why other companies tend to take note. You don't have to "live and breath" the Apple ecosystem to see how popular Apple stuff is, just walk into most classrooms, coffee shops, towns, peoples homes and it's there.
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Oh please, The engineers or their executives are not like idling, while he is doing an appearance now and then. Naive and stupid comment.
There seems to be more and more of those comments lately. It's like Cook is to blame for everything, "oh your not Steve Jobs, we'll blame you for that" it's really getting old now
I pay with my Apple Watch and is super convenient, way more than paying with the iPhone. But like you said when you pay with the iPhone you don't necessary look at it. If the operation gets slower it makes less sense to use Apple Pay.
If they're ditching touchID the face recognition ought to be damn fast
True.
Either they're keeping touchID (perhaps on the back or on the power button) or faceID will be on iPhone right from the start.
It could make sense to postpone wireless charging in a future software update in order to get approval for the technology even in Europe. But wireless charging is a bonus, security is at the foundation of iPhone so it has to be reliable from the very beginning.
If they need time to get things done they'll postpone iPhone 8 launch and sell only 7s and 7s+ in September. They really have to announce all the models in the same event though
"Qualcomm have had under screen tech for a while too."
Clearly you didn't read this bit... UNDER SCREEN.
They're doing that in the shape of the iPhone 7S and 7S plus
We're specifically talking about the 10th anniversary edition here
No you’re specifically talking about unconfirmed rumors.
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Right and then this website would be full of comments about how Apple is boring, can’t innovate anymore, Tim Cook needs to be fired, etc. etc. etc.
No, popular as in there was nothing else comparable to it in the mass market. There were certainly technologies that existed prior to Apple's implementation. Google wallet was not nearly the same and was not a popular feature then or today. I think it was even replaced by Android Pay or Google Pay, whatever their replicated feature was. Touch ID? I don't recall a very good implementation prior besides a couple clunky fingerprint scanners on laptops. Certainly nothing to the level of Touch ID. After Apple did it, everyone followed suit. Siri? Yes, they purchased the technology, but there were no voice assistants in smartphones prior to Siri and as usual, everyone implemented their copied version afterward. App stores? You have to be very short sighted to think that there was a popular app store on a smartphone prior to the App Store. Nothing like this existed at the time and everyone followed suit, as usual. Lastly, 3D touch. Yes, the existence of haptics were there prior, but nothing implemented in a smart phone acting as another layer to the OS for specific functions. Other phone makers are still trying to implement their version today, yet it wasn't seen in smartphones until Apple implemented. I am not blind to Apples faults, there are plenty, but to say that they weren't innovators in the pieces you mentioned is very short sighted.