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Police Seize Gizmodo Editor's Computers and Other Property Related to Lost Next-Generation iPhone

-=XX=-Nephilim said:
Perhaps!

In any case I am boycotting EVERYTHING Apple from today...

Had enough of all the crap that's coming out of them recently and am not ready to support any of their swastika loving ******** anymore...

:mad:
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:D Right on...viva la resistance!!!!

bobob said:
Let me just point out that you didn't give my watch back until you had cracked it open, disassembled it, and sold pictures of it on the internet.

Also, if you recall, you refused to give my watch until I had to send you that formal letter asking for it back.
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First of all...no law against examining it to determine it's origin. Maybe your name was engraved inside the back cover? It might be a fake "copy watch" and not even yours. Also no law against photographing it.

Lastly you have no idea if Gizmodo was arranging to return it or not. You simply cannot know that they had no intention to return it and in fact that would be incredibly stupid of them after they admitted to having it. Clearly they intended to give it back or else they would never cop to having it.
 
pastparticiple said:
:D Right on...viva la resistance!!!!



First of all...no law against examining it to determine it's origin. Maybe your name was engraved inside the back cover? It might be a fake copy and not even yours. Also no law against photographing it.

Lastly you have no idea if Gizmodo was arranging to return it or not. You simply cannot know that they had no intention to return it and in fact that would be incredibly stupid of them after they admitted to having it. Clearly they intended to give it back or else they would never cop to having it.
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Indeed!

If they keep on going like this in few years time they will be sending their own agents or private army to nock on your doors!

Screw'em!

:mad:
 
The entire Gawker blog network is incredibly unprofessional, and many of their articles are incredibly opinionated in a way that makes reading them simply painful.

As far as the iPhone fiasco is concerned, what they have done is no different than a competing company buying the prototype and breaking it down for analysis to find out what their rival is up to. They profited massively from ad revenue and site hits, no doubt about that. They've essentially stolen the thousands, if not millions of dollars Apple gets in free publicity from keeping an iron curtain on product development. They were completely aware of what they were doing, and it should come to absolutely no surprise to them that this was going to happen. Both the finder and Gizmodo should have turned it over to the police but obviously neither of them did. Apple personally got the phone back from Gizmodo, I'm sure they felt like they were doing the right thing, which is incredible bigotry.

I would not be surprised if Apple decides to sink the entire company for millions for leaking sensitive material to the world. Gizmodo's "we do what we want" attitude throughout this really needs to get slammed in the face, and this is exactly what they deserve.

I'm no Apple fan (I realize I'm in the wrong place, heh,) but this shouldn't happen to any company.
 
pastparticiple said:
I must have missed the part where Gizmodo kept the phone. Didn't they return it to Apple? I know they didn't do it fast enough for some people but I don't think there is a "unless FOUND property is returned within 15 days it is considered stolen. In the end they DID voluntarily give it back without being forced to by the police.

According to some of you here if I found your watch and didn't give it back for a week because let's say I was too busy that I deserve to be arrested and put away for life. I can see some of you arresting me as I stood on your porch trying to give it to you because I had it in my hand.
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bobob said:
Let me just point out that you didn't give my watch back until you had cracked it open, disassembled it, and sold pictures of it on the internet.

Also, if you recall, you refused to give my watch until I had to send you that formal letter asking for it back.
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pastparticiple said:
First of all...no law against examining it to determine it's origin. Maybe your name was engraved inside the back cover? It might be a fake "copy watch" and not even yours. Also no law against photographing it.

Lastly you have no idea if Gizmodo was arranging to return it or not. You simply cannot know that they had no intention to return it and in fact that would be incredibly stupid of them after they admitted to having it. Clearly they intended to give it back or else they would never cop to having it.
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What's all this about Gizmodo? Quit with your weasel words and just give me my freakin' watch back!
 
Some drunken Apple fool noob went to the bar and lost his "precious" iPhone prototype...

Someone else found it, took pictures of it and posted it online!

Frekn great!

SJ got embarrassed and his mega ego got hurt so he decided to draw massive big pentagram on the floor, light some black candles and summon the demons (and SS officers) to strike freedom of press...

Pathetic and LOLable at the same time :D

Gizmodo should sue them and nail the bastards for this crap!
 
KingYaba said:
The Apple Gestapo has come to get you. Seizing four computers and two servers for their lost iPhone? Sounds excessive.
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Also a good reason not to store anything important on your HD. If Apple (oops the Police sorry) stole my computers they wouldn't get anything sensitive because that is kept in a safe place.
 
pastparticiple said:
Also a good reason not to store anything important on your HD. If Apple (oops the Police sorry) stole my computers they wouldn't get anything sensitive because that is kept in a safe place.
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Right, so they wouldn't take any external drive, tapes, USB sticks, etc while they were there as well? Because it's the data they're after, not the computer itself.
 
-VoiceOfReason- said:
It was under the judge's discretion that those items were seized, not Apple's.
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He meant that Apple is behind this being made into such a big deal. This is not "The People" vs Gizmodo in reality....its Apple vs Gizmodo.

Steve got embarassed and now SOMEBODY is going to pay.

sammich said:
Right, so they wouldn't take any external drive, tapes, USB sticks, etc while they were there as well? Because it's the data they're after, not the computer itself.
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Right at my house they wouldn't. Because they wouldn't find them. Like I said...don't keep important stuff where people can find it. Especially if I was dealing with something like Gizmodo was that they KNEW would piss off the giant.
 
-=XX=-Nephilim said:
Breaking News from the 4th Reich!

SS officers in action against freedom of press!

Read more and face draconian reality with smile on your face :)
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-=XX=-Nephilim said:
Perhaps!

In any case I am boycotting EVERYTHING Apple from today...

Had enough of all the crap that's coming out of them recently and am not ready to support any of their swastika loving ******** anymore...

:mad:
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-=XX=-Nephilim said:
Indeed!

If they keep on going like this in few years time they will be sending their own agents or private army to nock on your doors!

Screw'em!

:mad:
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-=XX=-Nephilim said:
Some drunken Apple fool noob went to the bar and lost his "precious" iPhone prototype...

Someone else found it, took pictures of it and posted it online!

Frekn great!

SJ got embarrassed and his mega ego got hurt so he decided to draw massive big pentagram on the floor, light some black candles and summon the demons (and SS officers) to strike freedom of press...

Pathetic and LOLable at the same time :D

Gizmodo should sue them and nail the bastards for this crap!
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One can clearly see the evolution in XX=-Nephilim's position on this issue over the course of the 37 minutes he took to post these four comments.
 
pastparticiple said:
He meant that Apple is behind this being made into such a big deal. This is not "The People" vs Gizmodo in reality....its Apple vs Gizmodo.

Steve got embarassed and now SOMEBODY is going to pay.
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A multi-billion dollar company's prototype device was taken and dissected for all to see. It doesn't matter if the company is Apple or not, the situation has led to unmeasurable business losses, and they will no doubt prosecute those responsible to the fullest extent of the law.
 
-VoiceOfReason- said:
A multi-billion dollar company's prototype device was taken and dissected for all to see. It doesn't matter if the company is Apple or not, the situation has lead to unmeasurable business losses, and they will no doubt prosecute those responsible to the fullest extent of the law.
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For revenge...not justice. I also think this "huge losses for Apple" thing is melodramatic. Apple will sell just as many of these new phones as they would have had Mr. Black Mock Turtleneck himself showed it in June so the geeks could go "OOOOHHH...AHHHHHHH". If anything the free publicity will HELP them as now people who were on the fence about waiting will wait since they know something is tangibly there and going to be out soon.
 
-VoiceOfReason- said:
A multi-billion dollar company's prototype device was taken and dissected for all to see. It doesn't matter if the company is Apple or not, the situation has lead to unmeasurable business losses, and they will no doubt prosecute those responsible to the fullest extent of the law.
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The BBC news website has an article on the subject. The quote below is worrying, but does not really come as surprise. They are technically the Apple police....

The raids were conducted by the Rapid Enforcement Allied Computer Team (React), a Californian computer crime taskforce.
The taskforce was set up on 1997 to address the rising problem of computer fraud and identity theft.
It works closely with the computer industry and Apple is reported to be one of 25 tech firms to sit on the steering committee.
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So Apple has documented and public influence over this REACT? Well well well that just makes it even more obvious. Major conflict of interests there.
 
pastparticiple said:
For revenge...not justice. I also think this "huge losses for Apple" thing is melodramatic. Apple will sell just as many of these new phones as they would have had Mr. Black Mock Turtleneck himself showed it in June so the geeks could go "OOOOHHH...AHHHHHHH". If anything the free publicity will HELP them as now people who were on the fence about waiting will wait since they know something is tangibly there and going to be out soon.
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It's not "revenge," it's the law. As you said, it's free publicity, but it's nowhere near the scale Apple wants. They want millions of Apple drones hyped up for it. I couldn't care less about the new phone itself, but that's not the point I'm trying to make.

What if you were working on a secret device, and someone took it and dissected it for all, including competitors to see? You'd just take it in stride?
 
pastparticiple said:
So Apple has documented and public influence over this REACT? Well well well that just makes it even more obvious. Major conflict of interests there.
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Seems that way! You could imagine Apple having a quiet word with the Commissioner of the Force. Its a bad PR for Apple (In my eyes anyway).
 
bobob said:
One can clearly see the evolution in XX=-Nephilim's position on this issue over the course of the 37 minutes he took to post these four comments.
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My position on this is clear :)

This news are just the latest thing in series of Apple draconian moves in last couple of years or so - and this news, at least in my case, were final bullcrap from them to make me decide to boycott ALL their products in the future.

Until this news I was boycotting only iDevices and from now on I am including Macs to it too.

Enough is enough!

If we are not careful with things like this, if we don't show them that we respect our collective freedom more than their crap iToy prototype that THEY LOST - than we will actively and directly support draconian agenda they are setting up.

I am not prepared to do this hence the BOYCOTT!

And sorry about my imaginative / metaphorical style of writing :)
 
-VoiceOfReason- said:
It's not "revenge," it's the law. As you said, it's free publicity, but it's nowhere near the scale Apple wants. They want millions of Apple drones hyped up for it. I couldn't care less about the new phone itself, but that's not the point I'm trying to make.

What if you were working on a secret device, and someone took it and dissected it for all, including competitors to see? You'd just take it in stride?
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So what about the 'law' that the Police overlooked when confiscating Jason Chen's means to earn a living.
 
stridemat said:
The BBC news website has an article on the subject. The quote below is worrying, but does not really come as surprise. They are technically the Apple police....
said:
The raids were conducted by the Rapid Enforcement Allied Computer Team (React), a Californian computer crime taskforce.
The taskforce was set up on 1997 to address the rising problem of computer fraud and identity theft.
It works closely with the computer industry and Apple is reported to be one of 25 tech firms to sit on the steering committee.
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"It works closely with the computer industry"

Apple IS the computer industry. They and Microsoft make up 99% of it.
 
-VoiceOfReason- said:
"It works closely with the computer industry"

Apple IS the computer industry. They and Microsoft make up 99% of it.
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Its still a conflict of interests - Apple sit on the board and it was an Apple prototype that was lost/ brought/ stolen whatever you want to call it.

It's also the means he used to commit a crime.
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So its ok for the police to overlook the law themselves when investigating crime?

I don't think we should turn this into PRSI.
 
stridemat said:
Its still a conflict of interests - Apple sit on the board and it was an Apple prototype that was lost/ brought/ stolen whatever you want to call it.
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In any case, in the quote you provided it says 'The raids were conducted ... by REACT." It was the judge's warrant that allowed them to conduct the raid. The judge is the one you should be worrying about being a cohort.
 
When I last checked this thread it was at 11 pages sometime last night. I wake up and its hit 58! Nicely done all.

Oh and to chime in... I guess it's not Apple's fault the police raided the guys house. Although when my phone went missing and I knew where it was the police didn't go raiding, the same thing for my college laptop (paid for by them so you'd think they would want it back).
 
stridemat said:
The BBC news website has an article on the subject. The quote below is worrying, but does not really come as surprise. They are technically the Apple police....

Quote:
The raids were conducted by the Rapid Enforcement Allied Computer Team (React), a Californian computer crime taskforce.
The taskforce was set up on 1997 to address the rising problem of computer fraud and identity theft.
It works closely with the computer industry and Apple is reported to be one of 25 tech firms to sit on the steering committee.
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Holly crap!

:mad:

Who ever thinks this is about some iToy is missing the point!

This entire news item is about all of us and about our freedom.

This in fact is direct attack on us and should be taken personally!
 
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