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[POLL] Are you going to upgrade to any of the new MacBook Pros [MERGED]
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What I never figured out is how "f** off Siri" became calling R****Monroe at 2am. No "Do you want call ****? Just called the guy. At 2am! All I wanted to do was read a book!
I had to power the phone down to get it to stop!
I had to power the phone down to get it to stop!
The touch bar is open to developers. I am 100% confident there will be one who creates an app to add permanent music controls (or anything you need) to the touch bar. So this should be okay. Plus we haven't used it at all - so give it a chance before you trash it without any experience.
Better look again....it says Buy Now
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You do know it is an option in MacOS Sierra and configurable in System Preferences:
If I had to buy a laptop today I'd be getting a SurfaceBook or XPS 13.
Luckily I don't, and am hoping my 2015 15" model will last a long enough time that I won't have to get a dongle for EVERYTHING.
Luckily I don't, and am hoping my 2015 15" model will last a long enough time that I won't have to get a dongle for EVERYTHING.
Exactly, UK customers have been fully shafted... £1550 for the base touch bar model with student discount is insane.. Students were the main consumer of the air/cMBP, and I don't see many willing to pay that price... And the 15" price is just disgusting. Personally going to consider the i5 surface book, hopefully it will be within my budget with the 15% microsoft student discount
apple will get numbers from somewhere to make them feel better, this will not even have them lose sleep lol.
Or will be discounted under rabble rabble haterz gonna hate meme.
except in the future (3-4years) you're going to need a dongle for your current MacBook Pro to use the USB-C connector that every device will have.
Hey Siri for the Mac Os emoji bar, you know its coming WWDC 2017 right on cue, two years after it arrived on iOS
Doubtful, it would never get past app review.
The human interface guidelines for this thing are clear, no animation, no colour, they won't approve widgets and games for it. They want it to be an extension of the keyboard its purely for productivity shortcuts.
Hey Siri for the Mac Os emoji bar, you know its coming WWDC 2017 right on cue, two years after it arrived on iOS
Doubtful, it would never get past app review.
The human interface guidelines for this thing are clear, no animation, no colour, they won't approve widgets and games for it. They want it to be an extension of the keyboard its purely for productivity shortcuts.
Well, first I wasn't talking about games or widgets but that's not my point. Apps can still be installed asides the Mac App Store and have not to be reviewed by Apple. So, we do not know if it's possible or not. I use a menu bar app to deactivate standy by modus permanently (or as long as I want) and it works. I have the hope for such liberty and creativity
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Just annoys that Apple deprecated the battery by 25% for the sake of aesthetics, then Phil Schiller puts out this weak excuse for not offering the option of 32Gb RAM for Apple`s premium "Pro" notebook. Just smacks of greed, as you can bet a couple of years down the road Apple will "magically" find the power budget for 32Gb in order to stimulate sales.
They could at least had made it an option with a caveat that 32Gb may reduce battery life. If Apple`s so conscious of power why are they offering the 460 dGPU? I really hate how Apple takes advantage of it`s customers and gouges them over and over on any upgrade, however this is on another level entirely...
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It's been interesting reading all the comments out there regarding the MBP. It seems to me people are up in arms mainly about 3 things...
The first and biggest complaint by far is price. There's no arguing it is very expensive, but personally I always expect companies to charge as much as they can get away with. This is simply the price Apple thinks that (enough) people will pay for the new MBP. Obviously the angry people in these forums won't be those people paying, but in here and out there ARE people who will pay the price simply because the package that the new MBP offers (with its unique set of emphases and tradeoffs) suits them better than any other package out there in the price range. If anger should be directed at anyone then, it should be directed toward all those people buying the new MBP, enabling Apple to charge what they're charging.
The next biggest complaint I notice is the lack of certain types of ports. But again, I just see Apple doing what they've always been doing: pushing technologies that they think are the future, even if they have to step on a lot of people's toes. They think eventually everything will/should be USB-C (or wireless) and they have placed their bet on it. It's frustrating for a lot of people during the interim, including myself, but that's just always been Apple. They've been right on their bets before, we'll see if they're right again.
The 3rd complaint is performance specs, but I'm going to group these with the remaining complaints because the reason for them is the same--these are the tradeoffs Apple is willing to make for the sake of thinness. Lackluster GPU (although faster than previous generation), maximum 16GB RAM, no Magsafe, new thin keyboard--Apple will tell you the reason for these is ultimately to keep the laptop thin while maintaining battery life. I agree with many, I don't prefer the balance the MBP strikes. I prefer to tip the scale more toward performance than thinness, but I have to admit the performance in my current MBP at the end of the day is usable for what I need and the new MBP is only better. In any case I can understand that there may be a large number of people who are happy with these tradeoffs, and Apple makes the MBP for them. Again, as always, the market will tell us and Apple if they're right.
To be clear, I'm not saying I condone Apple's choices. Just saying I understand them. The only move I don't understand is the DDR3 RAM rather than DDR4. As I understand it, DDR4 is better in every way but I could be wrong. And Kaby Lake I'm assuming didn't come out in time to make it into the MBP.
The first and biggest complaint by far is price. There's no arguing it is very expensive, but personally I always expect companies to charge as much as they can get away with. This is simply the price Apple thinks that (enough) people will pay for the new MBP. Obviously the angry people in these forums won't be those people paying, but in here and out there ARE people who will pay the price simply because the package that the new MBP offers (with its unique set of emphases and tradeoffs) suits them better than any other package out there in the price range. If anger should be directed at anyone then, it should be directed toward all those people buying the new MBP, enabling Apple to charge what they're charging.
The next biggest complaint I notice is the lack of certain types of ports. But again, I just see Apple doing what they've always been doing: pushing technologies that they think are the future, even if they have to step on a lot of people's toes. They think eventually everything will/should be USB-C (or wireless) and they have placed their bet on it. It's frustrating for a lot of people during the interim, including myself, but that's just always been Apple. They've been right on their bets before, we'll see if they're right again.
The 3rd complaint is performance specs, but I'm going to group these with the remaining complaints because the reason for them is the same--these are the tradeoffs Apple is willing to make for the sake of thinness. Lackluster GPU (although faster than previous generation), maximum 16GB RAM, no Magsafe, new thin keyboard--Apple will tell you the reason for these is ultimately to keep the laptop thin while maintaining battery life. I agree with many, I don't prefer the balance the MBP strikes. I prefer to tip the scale more toward performance than thinness, but I have to admit the performance in my current MBP at the end of the day is usable for what I need and the new MBP is only better. In any case I can understand that there may be a large number of people who are happy with these tradeoffs, and Apple makes the MBP for them. Again, as always, the market will tell us and Apple if they're right.
To be clear, I'm not saying I condone Apple's choices. Just saying I understand them. The only move I don't understand is the DDR3 RAM rather than DDR4. As I understand it, DDR4 is better in every way but I could be wrong. And Kaby Lake I'm assuming didn't come out in time to make it into the MBP.
The worst thing no one mentioned so far is that:
Johnny Ive is gaining pounds in weight and as an excuse or motivation to himself, he designs laptops and phones with the optimal goal to be thinner than before. Instead we can propose him any kind of diet
I feel sorry for the rest of VIPs at Apple because they have to re-invent their excuses for the lack of features, connectivity and performance compared to the same price products, other makers produce, at every keynote.
We all miss Steve Jobs and his "courage" to admit their (Apple's) mistakes. No one at Apple could say in public: We did wrong with Mac Pro, we did wrong with Displays etc. because they are not pioneers as once was. They are VIPs with big budgets enough not to think as you and me.
Microsoft released last week a product only Apple could create 10 years ago, when they was still innovating.
Johnny Ive is gaining pounds in weight and as an excuse or motivation to himself, he designs laptops and phones with the optimal goal to be thinner than before. Instead we can propose him any kind of diet
I feel sorry for the rest of VIPs at Apple because they have to re-invent their excuses for the lack of features, connectivity and performance compared to the same price products, other makers produce, at every keynote.
We all miss Steve Jobs and his "courage" to admit their (Apple's) mistakes. No one at Apple could say in public: We did wrong with Mac Pro, we did wrong with Displays etc. because they are not pioneers as once was. They are VIPs with big budgets enough not to think as you and me.
Microsoft released last week a product only Apple could create 10 years ago, when they was still innovating.
No. And I still have an iPhone 4 (my first smartphone) and have been considering an update for a phone .....am now looking more and more on Android phones as a potential upgrade - and I was raised in a household with a Mac during my child and young teen years.
2 for Yes
4 for No
1 for maybe
Basically Apple's politic is - Less sales but higher margins.
The Verge has the best article to make it clear. People have enough computers with good performance and they will not buy them more often as iPhones for example.
Hahaha I wish I had the emoji bar so I could attach the crying of laughter one.
"Just annoys that Apple deprecated the battery by 25% for the sake of aesthetics"
well in a review by LaptopMag. the 2016 MacBook Pro (without touchbar) actually gets longer battery life than the 2015 model (both get way longer battery life than the 10hours Apple claims). but then again this is the 15w cpu version so we will have to wait till the 28w version comes out to truly bash on Apple that they reduced battery life. http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/macbook-pro-13-inch
"They could at least had made it an option with a caveat that 32Gb may reduce battery life."
You're only looking at this one way. If Apple did this, it would be the same reaction as when the "jet black" color for the iPhone 7. the jet black color got tons of news saying how easily it is scratch able that even Apple advertises to use a case with it. Made headlines everywhere. Apple putting a "32gb will reduce battery life" would have made bigger news and more people angry than the news we have today about no 32gb ram option.
"Just smacks of greed, as you can bet a couple of years down the road Apple will "magically" find the power budget for 32Gb in order to stimulate sales."
actually the ram Apple uses its LPDDR3. however it isn't standard ddr3 but a very low power one. there isn't a ddr4 equivalent that reaches the same low power as the one Apple is using (even though standard ddr3 vs ddr4 shows that ddr4 uses less energy). and since 16gb is the max LPDDR3 can handle, that would mean Apple would need to design an entirely new logic board just for the 32gb ram option, meaning there could be lots of room for error and problems. This is not as simple as you think.
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I waited for over a year and this is what we get, I am even ok with having to deal with adapters but the price. In my country the prices are a overkill but these new prices are extremely overkill. I am very disappointed with apple, I have already started looking at windows laptops.