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PowerBook and iBook Confirmation?

SuperChuck said:
If Final Cut Pro is going HD, could we expect to see at least one of the Powerbook models (17") supporting HD?
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Here's hoping its both the 15" and 17". That would be a pretty good incentive to get one for several reasons.
 
eazyc10 said:
Have you not heard of the AMD64, ultraSPARC, itaniums.....? Having a 64bit processor running on a true 64-bit OS will not reduce performance since the operating system will utilize all 64-bits! if anything I would say a 64-bit processor running on a 32-bit os would be slower but a very minor difference.
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It's a different situation on Intel/AMD64 as the 64bit instruction set is quite different to the old 32bit instruction set with more registers and more efficient instructions.

There's no hit or improvement from running 64bit PPC. If anything it could be slightly slower as you're shoving around twice the data for no reason most of the time. Unless the application needs 64bit memory addressing then there is little point in it. 64bit MacOSX Server would be an idea for some large database applications but there is little point in it for Photoshop or Word.
 
Considering that NAB is an event for broadcasters, the tv and film industry, etc the products announced today were excellent. Nice updates, decent prices, etc.

People who were expecting consumer products to be announced at a show dedicated to the professionals that bring us tv, film, audio, etc is completely unrealistic.

The iBook / Powerbook updates aren't that big of a deal, just a nice boost (if the rumors and predictions are true). They will just get a silent update like the eMac got.

I can guarantee that professionals in film design are excited about new updates to FCP, etc. Software packages like these are the reason Macs are so prominent in the industry in the first place.

So, let's be happy for them there, and we can be happy for us tomorrow or Tuesday when the new products WE want are introduced. To say that NABS announcment only solidifies Apples role as a software company only is a very short sighted comment. Apple released products at a show for a select customer base.... good on them for doing so.
 
Fear not True Believers , all will be revealed

in less than 16 hours from right now. New shiney 7447A iBooks and Powerbooks . Just about as good as X-Mas Day . Oh , the Joy .
 
So what time does everyone expect the Apple Store to have the new ibooks/PBs online. I thought that I heard they take it down around 8:30 and it goes live at 9 but is that EST/PST/ETC...

With limited stock I expect to order early and often.
 
CombatWombat said:
So what time does everyone expect the Apple Store to have the new ibooks/PBs online. I thought that I heard they take it down around 8:30 and it goes live at 9 but is that EST/PST/ETC...

With limited stock I expect to order early and often.
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If there are updates, the store generally goes down by 8:00am ET and is back up 30-45 minutes later. That's exactly what happened last Tuesday with the eMacs.
 
Where's Jimsowden?

I wonder if Jimsowden is going to give us the specs of the new powerbooks like he did the day before the release of the eMacs?

Where are you, Jimsowden? :confused:
 
tkermit said:
see, that's the kind of comment that I just don't understand. Is the iBook G4 an exception ? As I said I was comparing my iBook G4-800 640mb to a duron 1600mhz 640mb and basically for all PDFs the duron is moren than twice as fast (I'd say). The duron easily takes on 20mb+ pdfs with lots of images while the iBook takes its time (especially when zooming in and then moving).
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Well your comparing a desktop to a laptop too. You can take an iMac with the same processor speeds, same amount of RAM, etc. as the iBook and I guarantee you the iMac will beat it almost everytime. Laptops almost always perform not quite as good as desktops. One thing I do know is that the iBook uses a slower HD, on a slower bus (ATA-66), and I imagine your AMD uses much better specs than I just posted. Plus your PC is twice as fast as your iBook so obviously the iBook will be slower.

What are you using on the Mac side to view your PDF's?
 
AndrewMT said:
That's really not the point I was making. PCs that compete with the imac cost $400, so it is understandable that they have cheap or shared memory graphics cards. The point that I am making is that Apple is being extremely thrifty when it comes to it graphics cards in the iMac. All the components in the iMac are pretty high quality except the graphics cards. I wish they would invest $20-$30 more on a decent graphics card so that owners will be able to play most games well for about 2 years. And don't say people that buy iMacs don't want to play games.

iMacs are all about quality and ease of use and it isn't exactly easy for a novice to have to lower all the settings on a game so that the framerate is acceptable.
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I'm very sorry but the iMac doesn't compete with $400 PCs. If so, then the iMac kicks its @$$ all the way. What PC comes with a flat panel standard, or a DVD Burner, DDR RAM, fast large HD? I'd say the iMac competes with the $600-$800 PCs. The eMac is the computer that competes with the $400 PCs. The iMac still has a better graphics card than most of the $600-$800 PCs. If need better graphics then you need something other than an eMac/iMac!
 
CombatWombat said:
So what time does everyone expect the Apple Store to have the new ibooks/PBs online. I thought that I heard they take it down around 8:30 and it goes live at 9 but is that EST/PST/ETC...

With limited stock I expect to order early and often.
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Are you saying that they will come out at 8:30 in every time zone when you say "but that is EST/PST/ETC...?" Does Apple ship to people in the order the orders were received, or do certain orders take priority?
 
mklos said:
I'm very sorry but the iMac doesn't compete with $400 PCs. If so, then the iMac kicks its @$$ all the way. What PC comes with a flat panel standard, or a DVD Burner, DDR RAM, fast large HD? I'd say the iMac competes with the $600-$800 PCs. The eMac is the computer that competes with the $400 PCs. The iMac still has a better graphics card than most of the $600-$800 PCs. If need better graphics then you need something other than an eMac/iMac!
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PC's dont have to compete with macs, sure they can be careful about it and try to keep ahead of the game but they already have 9 out of 10* customers. becuase 9 out of 10* people only use computers for e-mail, shopping, and solitare

*=guestimated figures
 
$1099 iBook?

I thought the cheapest iBook was $999. Currently, the cheapest one at the Apple store is $1099.
 
Early X-mas

:D


I can't take the wait, I'm gonna crack............. :p

Please, me wants new PB or IB

I am going to be a NEW SWITCHER and I'm lovin it.


I would like to see backlit keys for 12"
2 lasps on the 15" model for closed eveness

So what time do the close website 830pm or 830 am

I will become bi :cool: when I gets me new book, stop it now, when I say Bi, I mean PC and MAc user, you silly rabbits you............ :eek: :cool:
 
If new PowerBooks are launched in tomorrow morning in the States I wonder how long it will take until there available here in OZ ? :rolleyes:
 
luiss said:
I thought the cheapest iBook was $999. Currently, the cheapest one at the Apple store is $1099.
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No... I think they used to be $999 when they offered CD-ROM versions. Now you can only get one with CD-ROM instead of Combo if you order through the educational store. Its $950 there.
 
Time of release?

What time will new PBs be at the Apple store tomorrow? Seems like the eMacs were on the store at around 7:30 PDT. If we know the date, we have to discuss the time, right?
 
If I purchased one and used a school discount, would Apple place me as least priority?

Also, do you think a customized model will cause a huge delay because I'd like to get a beefed up 12"?
 
i just ordered a 12" on saturday, but i was reassured by someone that works for apple, that if an update were to occur befor my order is shipped, i would get the updated version at no extra cost.

either way its a big boost from my g3 500 pismo.
 
skinEman23 said:
No... I think they used to be $999 when they offered CD-ROM versions. Now you can only get one with CD-ROM instead of Combo if you order through the educational store. Its $950 there.
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Thanks for clearing that up!
 
Sped said:
What time will new PBs be at the Apple store tomorrow?
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If they are released tomorrow, the store will go down somewhere around 8:00 am ET and come back up by 9:00 am ET with the new products.

Speaking of new products, jimsowden nailed the eMac a day early...I wonder if he has the specs yet on the new iBooks/PowerBooks? Oh Jim!!!!
 
DHagan4755 said:
If they are released tomorrow, the store will go down somewhere around 8:00 am ET and come back up by 9:00 am ET with the new products.

Speaking of new products, jimsowden nailed the eMac a day early...I wonder if he has the specs yet on the new iBooks/PowerBooks? Oh Jim!!!!
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i thot ususally it was 8:30 PM the night before... well, its 8:30 CDT and the site is very sluggish, but not down. humph. i really hope we get updates tomorrow.
 
Remember: Processor Architecture and Asymptotic Time Complexity

DGFan said:
That's 20%. If 20% faster doesn't matter then why is everyone clamoring for 2.4GHz G5s? And why is everyone clamoring for G5s in laptops when the G5s aren't even 20% faster than G4s?
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The architecture of the G5 is substantially different from that of the G4, just as the G4 differs such from the Pentiums. Comparing the clock speeds does not yield an accurate picture of how a G5 performs relative to a G4.

In fact you must also remember that an increase from say 1.25gHz to 1.5gHz is by all accounts a <bold>linear</bold> measurement. Operating System and Application algorihtms are mostly non-linear in their asymptotic time (and space - that is memory) complexities. It is a an error to assume that a 20% increase in processor speed will yield the same increase in the speed in which applications and the underlying OS will run. Very many algorithms are expoential/logarithmic in nature and as such may show less than a 20% increase in speed. This is governed by many factors that require assiduous analysis to determine. Bottom line, the increase from a 1.25 to a 1.5gHz G4 will probably not yield dramatic or even noticable performance increases for most applications. Beware of allowing "buyer's exhilaration" to create a misperception in the actual performance of a new computer.

Buy what you need and keep/use it as long as you can!
 
Times?

So we've established it is in the A.M., but Apple is PST and some people are stating it will go down at 8a.m. ET, are you all SURE of this? It makes more sense for it to be pacific time.

Thanks - Don't mean to be a bother...
 
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