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PowerBooks in Paris?

Originally posted by Stella
How very self centred.
:)
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Yep, they don't spell it US for nothing. Its THEM and U.S.

But hey, that's another thread…

I predict G5 (1.25 GHz?) powerbooks (at least 15"or 17" or both) as the next update, probably announced next week, probably actually unavailable until December.

There, stuck my neck out, if I'm wrong I'll get my iBook folding as well as penance.

Or maybe Photorun can rip me a new one like he promised! :rolleyes:
 
Re: Lower prices? Ha-ha!

Originally posted by jocknerd Apple doesn't care that their 15" PowerBook costs twice as much as an Intel based while running twice as slow. Apple only wants you to compare it to the previous version of the PowerBook. That way, they can justify the cost. Thats how they could justify the price increase on the PowerMacs with the introduction of the G5. Whereas the rest of the world has PC prices coming down, Apple raised theirs.
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Yawn...x86 laptops not nearly twice as fast...nowhere near half as cheap with comparable components...powerbook very light and thin...gorgeous design...firewire 800...airport extreme...backlit keyboard...OS X...mac prices stable/slightly decreasing, not increasing...blame Moto...G5 powerbooks will wipe the floor with the competition next year...yawn.
 
Re: Lower prices? Ha-ha!

Originally posted by jocknerd
If the previous PowerMac ran a 867mhz processor and cost $2500 and the new one uses a 1.25ghz processor and costs the same, Apple expects you to see that its a good deal.
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it isn't a good deal? :D

should intel sell a p4 laptop cheaper because there are cheaper laptops with celeron at the same clockspeed?
 
Originally posted by chazmox
Arn,

You reported earlier that G5 enabling SW was code-named with LOTR's characters.

How significant is this???
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Not as significant as AppleInsider explcitly saying G4 PowerBooks.

arn
 
I'm really curious now how well the sales of PowerBooks will be with the G5 out now in PowerMacs. How many people will be waiting a year or so until they hope to see a G5 in the PowerBooks......

I'm not in the market for a new PowerBook, but I think I'd wait until I couldn't any longer if I were to buy a G4 version...

D
 
Originally posted by justytylor
Chazmox wondered if the codename of 10.2.7 Blackrider meant that the PBs would be G5s. As did Omek below:



AFAIK:

10.2.7 Smeagol is 10.2.7 for G5s.
10.2.7 Blackrider is 10.2.7 for all other Macs.

Hope that helps.
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Are you sure about this? MacRumors reported with some confidence that LOTR character names were reserved for G% enabling SW updates.

I'm not one who really believes in the G5 PB's although it maybe a possibility. But I find it really interesting when two seemingly unrelated rumors cross...
 
Originally posted by arn
Not as significant as AppleInsider explcitly saying G4 PowerBooks.

arn
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Nothing significant here, they are just guessing. Reviewing all the PB rumors over the last year makes it clear no one knows what is going on. It's going to be a lower MHz G5; Moto is history. Everyone will be shocked and in awe of Job's distortion field.
 
Powerbook rumors? Wow, I'm having serious deja vu... I swear I saw this rumor somewhere before!:D

Can't wait to see what happens in Paris. Something is up, this is the year of the laptop, and the updated iMacs and iPods were quietly announced this week. If there was nothing better than that, they would have saved those for Paris. And SJ wouldn't be making the keynote.... Something's afoot methinks. I doubt it's a G5 PB, but maybe a new iApp, along with faster G4 'books. Maybe the iPod periphal, whatever the hell that turns out to be. I'm sure I'll need one though.

Basking in the reality distortion field....
 
Originally posted by xtekdiver
It's going to be a lower MHz G5; Moto is history. Everyone will be shocked and in awe of Job's distortion field.
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That would be a nice surprise! All these rumors every week failing to pan out just shows (as you said) no one will know until next week or the week after or the week after or.........

I just will be happy when (a) the PB is updated, and (b) when it is update to a G5. That way all the rumors will stop for a bit! ;-)
 
Originally posted by srobert
The vast majority of his target consumers don't even watch the live keynote. Also, I think that international orders amount to about half of apple's sales. Apple expo Paris could be the right place to announce a new product. Otherwise, there really isn't much events left beside San-Francisco.

My 2 Cents.
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Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to see PBs at MW Paris. I really don't care where great Apple products are announced, and I agree that it may be a superb PR move to announce them in Europe.

I just don't think it's going to happen for the reasons I stated.
 
Originally posted by mvc
Yep, they don't spell it US for nothing. Its THEM and U.S.
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There was an onion article about that this week. I'm assuming you referenced it. If not, quite amusing none the less.
 
Not Buying.....

I just can't believe that they are still lingering on the g4 ..... I can't imagine buying a new powerbook right now, knowing that the g5 is in towers.... kills me to think that.. there might and should be a g5 powerbook within 6 months.. Its the worst time to be in the market for a new powerbook....

clinging on to my Ti g4 500mhz... for a bit longer...
 
Whaaaaa?

Why would Apple update 1 of 3 models? I guess the new models made sens a while back but they should homongenize the product line already! So now my choices are an 867 12", a 1.25 Ghz 15", and a 1.0 Ghz 17". That's making the 17" look awfulling sluggish in the price/performance department...

Eh, I'm waiting for the G5 laptops anyway.
 
I'm just looking forward to the rumours stopping, my new updated PB to arrive (either G4 or G5 will suffice) and to go back to my normal rumour free life a happy man – although I am enjoying the hype :)
 
Re: Re: Lower prices? Ha-ha!

Originally posted by the future
Yawn...x86 laptops not nearly twice as fast...nowhere near half as cheap with comparable components...powerbook very light and thin...gorgeous design...firewire 800...airport extreme...backlit keyboard...OS X...mac prices stable/slightly decreasing, not increasing...blame Moto...G5 powerbooks will wipe the floor with the competition next year...yawn.
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I have to agree about the price not being half as cheap. My employer spent $3200 on some high end Compaq notebooks. I am trying to push for a PB instead.

However, I really don't see a value in the backlit keyboard. It's a wow feature at first, then becomes just a battery drainer. I use my current Compaq laptop all the time in the dark. I find the keys just fine. Even if I couldn't, the screen gives off enough light that I could do it anyway.

As for Airport Extreme, when do you think they'll update this to support A/B/G? There are several vendors that supply cards that will do this in the PC world. It would be nice for Apple to do the same for their portables. At least you could connect anywhere an AP exists.
 
I must say, this whole PB fiasco is becoming great. Seriously, weekly, everyone contradicts themselves.

When I first started reading various mac rumors sites I thought they were actual news sources. (seriously, I did, I was naive). However, now I realize that this is just an amazingly geeky form of entertainment. I now know why those people who buy the national enquirer at the checkout lines buy them.

And to the people who live and die by rumors, whoa....

just whoa.....


(we do need an upgrade though sometime soon. My wife wants a PB but is getting sick of waiting.)
 
Originally posted by F/reW/re
If 1.25GHz is all, Apple better lower thoose prices! A notebook with 3GHz costs half the price of a 15" PowerBook!
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Whew... have you BEEN to Mac rumor sites in the past 2 years. There's this thing called the MHz myth. 3GHz What? A 1 Ghz G4 Powerbook is usually faster, by design, than anything in the PC world. Their laptops are crippled in many respects. Price is usually about the same for (somewhat) comparable performance (in the Mac's favor).

:)
 
Originally posted by Frobozz
Whew... have you BEEN to Mac rumor sites in the past 2 years. There's this thing called the MHz myth. 3GHz What? A 1 Ghz G4 Powerbook is usually faster, by design, than anything in the PC world. Their laptops are crippled in many respects. Price is usually about the same for (somewhat) comparable performance (in the Mac's favor).

:)
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That's correct. There's even a battle in the PC world with Intel and AMD. AMD resorted to different branding of their procs because their proc has the same performance of the Intel counterpart, even though the speed isn't identical.

Same goes for the Mac proc's.
 
Personally, I couldn't care less about the 15" to be honest. However, I will be somewhat disappointed if the 12" doesn't get at least a modest update. They at least need a minor refresh to bump it up to 1GHz at the minimum, plus also add a L3 cache and USB 2.0/FW 800 even if they do nothing else to it.
 
G4 updates? Too little, too late

If Apple can only muster 1.25 or 1.3 G4's in Paris then they're in serious trouble. They've missed the back to school crowds and everyone wanting pro power will either have gone for the new G5 or are waiting on G5 power books.

If they've made major changes then I just hope that they can re-use the chasis for the new G5 pbooks 'cos they aint gonna sell a lot of G4s I reckon. Quite frankly if G5 pbooks are say 6 months away (as most people expect they are) then Apple would be daft to try and do any major overhauls of the current line. So, with that in mind my prediction is:

12" - No changes (no, not even 1G as the heat would be too much)
15" - Al (but only 'cos they've got a back lot of cases to clear) 1 & 1.25 (or 1.3) FW800, BT, etc. (as per 17")
17" - New top end of 1.25 or 1.3, no physical changes.

I'm assuming that the higher clock processors will slot into existing motherboards, if they don't then I don't expect any changes at all with the exception of the Al 15" simply because it won't be worth the investement required for a measley 6 month production run.

I'm prepared for a very underwhelming Paris expo, unless of course the old 7x5 inch plastic enclosure rumours start surfacing again and they produce the vPod :)

e.
 
Originally posted by Armsreach
However, now I realize that this is just an amazingly geeky form of entertainment. I now know why those people who buy the national enquirer at the checkout lines buy them.

And to the people who live and die by rumors, whoa....

just whoa.....


(we do need an upgrade though sometime soon. My wife wants a PB but is getting sick of waiting.)
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If you didn't read rumor sites your wife would have bought her Tibook and would be enjoying it very much right now. ;)
 
Originally posted by QuiteSure
I am skeptical of the PB update rumors for MW Paris. I just don't see Steve Jobs making a major product announcement while his major target buyers -- US consumers -- are asleep.
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I'm sorry but I believe that the majority of the target users are in Asia..But, they're mainly ibooks.


edited by Bruja 2 secons affter :^)
 
Originally posted by srobert
Danger Mvc Robinson! Danger!
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Why, do you think Mr Bush will be re-targetting the missile silos to my house now?

We may tease all you charmingly one eyed Americans down here (and across the pond), but we luv em really, cos they bring mucho dollars touristo!

;)
 
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