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PowerBooks in Paris?
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FYI
$2,004 Dell Inspiron 5150
3GHz Pentium® 4 MOBILE processor
15.1" LCD
256MB 333MHz SDRAM (2 DIMMs)
40GB Ultra ATA 4200RPM Hard Drive
CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
32MB DDR NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200
10/100 Ethernet
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Dell Jukebox powered by MUSICMATCH
Dell Picture Studio
Dell Movie Studio Essentials
$1999 Powerbook
867MHz PowerPC G4 with 1MB L3 cache
15.2" LCD
256MB SDRAM
40GB Ultra ATA/66
CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
32MB DDR ATI Mobility Radeon 9000
10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet
Mac OS X
iMovie, iPhoto, iTunes, iCal, iChat, Art Directors Toolkit, GraphicConverter, OmniGraffle, OmniOutliner, QuickBooks for Mac, etc
Most definitely not half the price.
I suppose you could try to argue that a 3Ghz P4 MOBILE processor is twice as fast as a 867Mhz G4, but I think you would lose the argument. If we were talking about a 3Ghz P4 desktop processor then that would be one thing, this is a P4 Mobile processor and they pretty much suck.
The "twice the price" claim is just simply absurd. Even if you were talking about the 1GHz G4 15" Powerbook with 512MB RAM, 60GB Ultra ATA/66 HD, SuperDrive, and 64MB DDR ATI Mobility Radeon 9000, the price is still only $2,599 which is no where near "twice the price" of the $2004 Dell. Heck, the $3,299 17" Powerbook is not twice the price either!
Argue all that you want about being able to buy a PC laptop that is faster than the fastest Powerbook, but please stop trying to claim that the Powerbooks are so much more expensive. It just simply is not true.
$2,004 Dell Inspiron 5150
3GHz Pentium® 4 MOBILE processor
15.1" LCD
256MB 333MHz SDRAM (2 DIMMs)
40GB Ultra ATA 4200RPM Hard Drive
CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
32MB DDR NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200
10/100 Ethernet
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Dell Jukebox powered by MUSICMATCH
Dell Picture Studio
Dell Movie Studio Essentials
$1999 Powerbook
867MHz PowerPC G4 with 1MB L3 cache
15.2" LCD
256MB SDRAM
40GB Ultra ATA/66
CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
32MB DDR ATI Mobility Radeon 9000
10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet
Mac OS X
iMovie, iPhoto, iTunes, iCal, iChat, Art Directors Toolkit, GraphicConverter, OmniGraffle, OmniOutliner, QuickBooks for Mac, etc
Most definitely not half the price.
I suppose you could try to argue that a 3Ghz P4 MOBILE processor is twice as fast as a 867Mhz G4, but I think you would lose the argument. If we were talking about a 3Ghz P4 desktop processor then that would be one thing, this is a P4 Mobile processor and they pretty much suck.
The "twice the price" claim is just simply absurd. Even if you were talking about the 1GHz G4 15" Powerbook with 512MB RAM, 60GB Ultra ATA/66 HD, SuperDrive, and 64MB DDR ATI Mobility Radeon 9000, the price is still only $2,599 which is no where near "twice the price" of the $2004 Dell. Heck, the $3,299 17" Powerbook is not twice the price either!
Argue all that you want about being able to buy a PC laptop that is faster than the fastest Powerbook, but please stop trying to claim that the Powerbooks are so much more expensive. It just simply is not true.
Wow.. I think we just got schmacked by Kangaroo Jack!! Adimas, somos amigos!! (nevertheless, were friends)
Re: G4 updates? Too little, too late
Sounds good to me. iPods are so, like, last week. Bring on the vPods
I guess the G5 powerbook would be coming too soon after the desktop. I'm sure Apple would like to save the premium margin a G5 powerbook would bring in for their next financial quarter, as this one already looks like a bumper for them. The G4s will sell alright. Keep big revenues consistent across the year.
Originally posted by esheep2001
I'm prepared for a very underwhelming Paris expo, unless of course the old 7x5 inch plastic enclosure rumours start surfacing again and they produce the vPod
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Sounds good to me. iPods are so, like, last week. Bring on the vPods
I guess the G5 powerbook would be coming too soon after the desktop. I'm sure Apple would like to save the premium margin a G5 powerbook would bring in for their next financial quarter, as this one already looks like a bumper for them. The G4s will sell alright. Keep big revenues consistent across the year.
I wasn't saying that it was significant perse... but more significant than any "reading between the lines" that was going on about G5 PowerBooks. See what I was replying to.
As for guessing vs not.... if you really believe every site is just guessing... you should stop reading rumor sites.
It's clear that leaks do occur and that there is real information out there. People just need to stop believing every little thing from questionable sites.
If you aren't able to filter the rumors for yourself... I suggest you stop listening to macwhispers, powerpage, looprumors and much of macbidouille, etc....
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Price is THE issue for me..
looking for G5 powerbooks (not going to happen till jan or later.. my guess)
and
ibooks go to the G4
then what is the price?
$2100 G5 powerbook
$1200 G4 ibook
???????
looking for G5 powerbooks (not going to happen till jan or later.. my guess)
and
ibooks go to the G4
then what is the price?
$2100 G5 powerbook
$1200 G4 ibook
???????
Almost.
One rumor says processors are in adequate supply, presumably just for the few 15" PB's that Apple will sell in the next 3 months or so after a release.
Another rumor says 15" LCD's in short supply. So was it caused by an Apple surge order, or has Apple hoarded enough for their relatively small 15 PB sales, or is Apple such a small player that even during shortage they can get what they need?
I use a 15" PB as my primary computer. I strongly suggest others do the same.
Rocketman
Re: G4 updates? Too little, too late
All right! Bring on the vPod rumors! I had all but forgotten about that mysterious enclosure...
Originally posted by esheep2001
I'm prepared for a very underwhelming Paris expo, unless of course the old 7x5 inch plastic enclosure rumours start surfacing again and they produce the vPod
All right! Bring on the vPod rumors! I had all but forgotten about that mysterious enclosure...
10.2.6 is it...
i was at a demo of the G5 put on by apple canada in montreal last night...they said that 10.2.7 contains absolutely no improvements over 10.2.6...no bug fixes, no new features, only support for G5 hardware. they basically said that 10.2.6 is it for non-G5 hardware until 10.3. whether or not that means that 'blackrider' is for G5 powerbooks, i have no idea. but unless smeagol already includes support for the mythical powerbook G5 hardware then it's reasonable to assume that another version of 10.2.7 would be needed.
i was at a demo of the G5 put on by apple canada in montreal last night...they said that 10.2.7 contains absolutely no improvements over 10.2.6...no bug fixes, no new features, only support for G5 hardware. they basically said that 10.2.6 is it for non-G5 hardware until 10.3. whether or not that means that 'blackrider' is for G5 powerbooks, i have no idea. but unless smeagol already includes support for the mythical powerbook G5 hardware then it's reasonable to assume that another version of 10.2.7 would be needed.
Re: Re: 10.2.6 is it...
it was out at the apple canada offices in montreal (near where the 40 and henri-bourassa cross) and it was mostly (or maybe all) authorized apple dealers there. i work for b.mac and decided to go.
it was out at the apple canada offices in montreal (near where the 40 and henri-bourassa cross) and it was mostly (or maybe all) authorized apple dealers there. i work for b.mac and decided to go.
I've had my first gen PBG4 since it's debut and besides the hinges becoming lose and the LCD screen needing repair for a pixel problem, it's been pretty sturdy. The only other gripe is the paint. Yeah it could scratch but it's been 2 1/2 years and it's still looks nice.
As for the next PB's, the G5 Powerbooks will not be seen until next year, unless Apple surprises us by using underclocked G5's (1-1.3 GHz?). Since Moto is pretty much dead in the water now i expect IBM to manufacturer all of Apple's CPU's. It has been discussed before that IBM's G3 can be faster than than Moto's G4, but how would Apple market this? These G3's are available to future iBook owners as soon as a faster "G4" finds it's way into the PB's.
I hate Motorola. The day of giving them the Boot is almost at hand.
Also, after feeling how much faster Panther is on the same hardware, i'll willing to wait for the PBG5, whenever it comes out.
3 GHz is meaningless. Funny, the new notebook processors from Intel which are faster are only 1.6 Ghz. As you can see not even Intel can live up to its own Mhz myth. If Intel can't, you can't expect a different processor company to be comparable in Mhz to Intel.
Has to have something up his sleeve...
I mean think about it... would he fly all the way to Paris just to get up on stage and talk about the G5? No, he's going to unveil something in Paris, and I'd be willing to bet it's an updated PowerBook line. No G5's but speed bump across the board, and the 15" will be updated to match the 17" and 12".
I mean think about it... would he fly all the way to Paris just to get up on stage and talk about the G5? No, he's going to unveil something in Paris, and I'd be willing to bet it's an updated PowerBook line. No G5's but speed bump across the board, and the 15" will be updated to match the 17" and 12".
Re: Re: Re: Lower prices? Ha-ha!
Really? To quote the spec pages:
"a unique fiber optic backlit keyboard"
Fiber optics.... basically means that they could (do?) use the backlight for the screen display to light the keyboard. Single light source, that is on anyway - that would make the backlit keyboard have ZERO drain (in fact, it would have *less* drain as it "automatically lowers its display backlight").
Really? To quote the spec pages:
"a unique fiber optic backlit keyboard"
Fiber optics.... basically means that they could (do?) use the backlight for the screen display to light the keyboard. Single light source, that is on anyway - that would make the backlit keyboard have ZERO drain (in fact, it would have *less* drain as it "automatically lowers its display backlight").
Well, I can tell you right now that in London, dealers have not only reduced the price of the 17" Powerbooks, they have put the demonstration units on sale... rather indicates they are expecting fresh stocks...