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Sped said:
Rumors have a grain of truth in them...

And it won't be this Tuesday, but next. However, I want a Powerbook and not a Powermac, so I suspect I'll be dissappointed.

Hey Sped -

I have owned 3 PowerBooks, 2 15 inch TiBooks and the 15inch AlBook I'm using now. Let me say - You don't have to wait! This 1.25MHz AlBook has noticably improved fit and finish from my 1.3 year old TiBook, and the speed is fine, screen is fantastic, and it just works! I have over 9000 photos in iPhoto (many from a 6.3 megapixel Canon) and it runs great. The illuminated keyboard is way cool, and it's got FW 400 and 800, and Bluetooth and AE installed. Apple has had a few years to fine tune their G4 PBs, and it looks and operates great. The new G5 will be a Rev.A and may have some kinks. If you really want/need a PB, this one is solid as a rock and is going to be hard to beat by just a processor upgrade.

Cheers!
 
Well, I have a Pismo - which of course was the last of the G3 run of machines. It still works well, even better with 10.3.3. Hell, sometimes they sell secondhand for 500UKP - which gives the first Ti books a run for their money.

The point about taking the last model in a run is a good one indeed.
 
Sped said:
Rumors have a grain of truth in them...

And it won't be this Tuesday, but next. However, I want a Powerbook and not a Powermac, so I suspect I'll be dissappointed.

I don't know about that.....

The iPod promotion is for powermacs and powerbooks...
 
Mehmet said:
Here's my 2 cents on this windows running nicely vs os x and what not.

I need my computer to do work, that's it. I dont want to get rid of viruses, i dont want to get rid of spyware, i dont want to go into the registry to change things that should be in the UI. I dont want a lot of things to happen on a computer while I am trying to work. That's all I want (Or don't want :D)

Well, the mac gives that to me, and a nice UI +unix to boot. That's all that matters to me right now, and as others have said, consoles are becoming more and more powerful and capable (online access, chat etc. etc.), so, I could just game on a 50 dollar GC (not that i game anymore..).

Lots of things on windows have to be tricked to work well, and usually dont work very well. Some things you have to do backwards, even in xp or 2k. Its like grabbing your left ear with your right hand over your head.. Sure, there are lots of programs for windows, but do they work well, and are not a pain to stare at?

Well, having set up a pretty much untweaked XP box just about a month ago that I'm already using for audio and video work (only extra thing I've needed to install outside of programs are some codecs), Windows can certainly work without any registry tweaks or fiddling with the system. The virus thing and the registry tweaking thing is a lot of FUD and I think a lot of apple fans know it. If you're serious about work, you likely don't have a crappy email client installed on the machine and you're not downloading questionable .zip files. I plug in my camcorder and it shows up as a video device that I can immediately control. I plug in a digital camera and it shows up as a harddrive/camera device. I have an M-Audio Audiophile soundcard and with zero tweaking I get a steady 6ms latency. The mainboard came with USB 2, network, and some other stuff, and I added a firewire card so I have 2 ports in back and 1 in front.

But the reason I'm picking up a mac is because although windows does have a lot of software, a lot of it is redundant and handholding, and the stuff that IS nice is impossible to find or try. For example, there's no program available on Windows that even approaches what U & I software are doing (the makers of metasynth, artmatic, and more). There's nothing that does what Numerology does. Final Cut, DVD Studio, same thing. There's TONS of video editing software available for windows but, frankly, it's all awful. Same with audio stuff.

There's a better community of people who are using their computer for rather specific things, which is fantastic, because those people are the ones that are going to try to help others, and if they have programming skills are even likely to delve in and make a program that does something unique. Do you really need 50 different FTP programs when everyone uses the same 2 main ones?

There's a pretty clear disconnect between the types of software and how they work between the two systems. Software on the mac seems to focus (at least recently) on the interface and making it work. Windows tends to focus on being feature rich, which doesn't help out people who are just getting into things. I think that's why things like iPhoto and iDVD are getting such praise -- they hold your hand without handing you crippled, crappy products.

Anyway, it's also impossible to get exactly what you get on the powermac line on the X86 line without shelling out a mint or shelling out a half-mint and putting it together yourself. And as anyone who has put together a computer on their own can tell you, you have to have a lot of experience doing it in order to not get crappy, cheap parts that give you unending driver conflicts.
 
Love Truck Delivers on Tuesday the 23rd

aswitcher said:
Either they are clearing the PB and PM lines or
clearing out the iPods...
Good point. Very smart!

I have no doubt that the reported bump in speed for all dual Macs will come true, with a probable release date about 30 hours away.

I wouldn't be overly surprised if speed bumped G4 PowerBooks are announced too.

Add speculation over release of new Aluminum framed Apple Cinema Display, and the resulting Troika of fresh products would draw a bright and shiny new chariot up to the very gates of Apple Stores worldwide.

What's next, iPods with COLOR LCD SCREENS? :D

As I've said before, this could be "Christmas in March" for all good little MacGirls and MacBoys. If not on March 23rd, we still can hope for gifts from the Ethernet Bunny on... Ether Tuesday in April. After all, those iPod Minis each look as cute and colorful as Ether Eggs; want one in your Ether Basket?

LOOK :eek:, here comes Love Truck Delivery carrying lots of new Macs! :D
 

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MacRAND said:
Good point. Very smart!

:p

I have no doubt that the reported bump in speed for all dual Macs will come true, with a probable release date about 30 hours away.

I wouldn't be overly surprised if speed bumped G4 PowerBooks are announced too.

Yep...no G5PB would suck but wouldn't be a big surprise...

SNIP
As I've said before, this could be "Christmas in March" for all good little MacGirls and MacBoys.
SNIP

We wish...
 
Updates

Are updates usually released like the exact minute of the start of the day?....like 12:01 AM 3/23/04? or are they usually at the middle or end of the day? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
AppleJustWorks said:
Are updates usually released like the exact minute of the start of the day?....like 12:01 AM 3/23/04? or are they usually at the middle or end of the day? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Duff-Man says....If I recall correctly, the updates are usually in the mornings, about 9am eastern time or so.....oh yeah
 
Good

Good! That means that when I get home tomorrow I can just order it!.....Hmmmm....Maybe I'll fake being sick to order it early.......... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
EggyToast said:
The virus thing and the registry tweaking thing is a lot of FUD and I think a lot of apple fans know it.

I'd have to dis-agree that it's a lot FUD. There are plenty of examples of trojans on the windows platform.. plenty of Worms that exploit security issues. My office cleaned up about 100 machines last summer because people didn't get their RPC patches on in a timely maner.
It's also entirely possible and all too common to receive an attachment that you are expecting, only to find it's infected with some virus or macro.

You can take care of a lot of this if you are smart.. turn on the firewall, de-couple Netbios and IP, set an Admin password, use strong passwords, don't use IIS services, update your virus defs every night, auto-update windows every night, don't open un-expected attachments, don't patch a new install from the net...

The big difference is, Mac users don't live life pondering all this. Sure, we get security patches but not exploits, and the security issues are much less frequent that on windows. Viruses don't exist for OS X users (unless you include our ability to pass on Word macro viruses)
 
AppleJustWorks said:
Good! That means that when I get home tomorrow I can just order it!.....Hmmmm....Maybe I'll fake being sick to order it early.......... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
What happens if Apples announces 500 MB Ipods? Apple needs new computers! I couldn't care less about Ipods.
 
Exactly

I don't exactly know how to put this but I'll say it anyway.....


Windows really isn't completly horrible........It may be the crappiest OS in the world.......but it isn't unbearable...Of course it is once you've used a Mac....What I'm trying to say is that: You can live with Windows, you can live with having to constantly update Windows and Virus Defs, and have to worry about all of those things with Windows, or you can get a Mac and never have to worry about a thing....(Except for repairing permissions which is automatically done at 3-5 am!!!)

Macs are just easier....They allow you to use a computer for what you want to use it for....you dont have to repair it, update it, etc....you can just do what you want to do...
 
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paulsecic said:
What happens if Apples announces 500 MB Ipods? Apple needs new computers! I couldn't care less about Ipods.

Why would they release an iPod with less storage than they already have?......

And who was talking about iPods? :confused: :confused:
 
In the past couple of weeks we've had a new iDVD, new iPhoto, new OS -- we're getting there.

I still think they should release new displays before the G5s . . . so maybe new displays tomorrow?
 
AppleJustWorks said:
Are updates usually released like the exact minute of the start of the day?....like 12:01 AM 3/23/04? or are they usually at the middle or end of the day? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Im not sure when they do an update but i would assume they go by Pacific Standard time which would be -8 GMT i believe, i could be wrong tho. Apple headquarters are in Cuppertino, California so i would assume they will do it at start of business time there, say around 9 am or so.
 
ffakr said:
I'd have to dis-agree that it's a lot FUD. There are plenty of examples of trojans on the windows platform.. plenty of Worms that exploit security issues. My office cleaned up about 100 machines last summer because people didn't get their RPC patches on in a timely maner.
It's also entirely possible and all too common to receive an attachment that you are expecting, only to find it's infected with some virus or macro.

You can take care of a lot of this if you are smart.. turn on the firewall, de-couple Netbios and IP, set an Admin password, use strong passwords, don't use IIS services, update your virus defs every night, auto-update windows every night, don't open un-expected attachments, don't patch a new install from the net...

The big difference is, Mac users don't live life pondering all this. Sure, we get security patches but not exploits, and the security issues are much less frequent that on windows. Viruses don't exist for OS X users (unless you include our ability to pass on Word macro viruses)

The PC sucks and lacks a viable, stable and secure OS. That is why we are all hanging out here.

If Linux was better I would gladly bid Apple farewell.

As I see it, OS X is my only choice. So I have to put up with slow product development.

I was NOT impressed with the G5 once the true performance numbers got around. It is well engineered but slow. Only the dual 2GHz model can approach a fast PC.

Nope, we need soemthing better.
 
It's Tuesday in Australia. I got nothing.

I'll have to wait up till late tonight to find out! Painful!
 
invaLPsion said:
XServe G5s have shipped, they are arriving on the 23rd.

Powermac G5 Updates Tommorrow. ;)

Now, no one hurt themselves if it turns out to be the 30th, OK?

With the promotions ending on the 27th, I tend to think the 30th is the correct date -- but I won't complain if it's tomorrow.
 
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