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President Trump Signs Repeal of U.S. Broadband Privacy Rules
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Yeah, just keep telling yourself that and meanwhile both of those states are going broke and guess who will need to bail them out.
In America, you are still free to do business with ISP X, Y, or Z. And if said ISP's are not available in your area, you are free to make other arrangements. You are not forced by law to sign up with ISP X, Y, or Z.
The real horror of it all, is that so many people truly want a nanny state government that takes care of them and makes decisions for them, because they don't want to have to take responsibility for their own life.
Many of the same people (here) complaining about less government, are many of the same people that allow Apple, Google, and many other companies to collect and store private information about them, and have been for years. But for some reason, the latter (today) is somehow different than the former.
Many people hold their "I want more freedom" sign in their left hand, while they seek to use the government as a weapon of force with their right hand, pushing their representative forward, demanding that government take more personal responsibility and choice away from them, so they don't have to worry about making a decision on their own.
Sadly, government has become bastardized. It is now seen as the mother, father, and ruler of the people, instead of being a subservient employee of the people.
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Not 100% accurate though. For example - many NYC apartments are contracted with a specific ISP. So the residents have no option.
Well said and perfectly describe the snowflakes who want their beloved government to kiss their ass and at the same time take care of them.
You keep telling yourself that? That's not an argument. It's not even a clever retort.
If you think the middle states are going to bail out the rest of the country - you're naive or intentionally being obtuse.
Read my previous post again. I said, "And if ISP X, Y, and Z is not available, other arrangements can be made."
I think the problem with privacy at the core is if you move the line as to what is acceptable (personally or through legislation) it's very hard to move the line back. Once people give up x, they are more likely to give up y. And if they change their mind, x is already out there and no longer secure.
Ultimately though - there needs to be an equitable value exchange with the data. If organizations are going to use the data, it needs to truly benefit consumers and not just line pockets or be abused. I don't see how anyone would argue that ISPs or anyone else should have free reign over your information.
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No - we don't. I'm going to go with you're being intentionally obtuse now.
LOL! Okay, so lets get specific. I said California and New York are going broke. You said that middle America would not bail them out. So basically you admit and agree that those states are going broke.
If one doesn't approve of the policy of ISP X, one doesn't have to do business with ISP X.
As to the first part of your retort, I agree. The main problem, is that the supreme law of the land is slowly being replaced by the emotional whims of preference and appeasement. More and more people are starting to believe (and wrongly so) that Democracy (read: mob rule) is what this Republic is founded upon. And in my opinion, that mindset and action that is predicated on such, is very dangerous and the antithesis of a Constitutional Republic.
The only foreigners that screwed with your elections are the 11m people USA let in via open insecure borders. Talk about stupidity.
You can't use cellular? You can't use wireless point to point? There are ALWAYS options.
no. I don't admit or agree to that at all. Show me the proof.
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I suppose you could and pay through the nose for it. My internet through my ISP is unlimited and about $60 a month. Very fast. I could use my cell - but right now that's limited to 10GB. Not a lot for tethering. And to make the data plan viable would be costly.
Factually, it is correct to say there are options. But reality is a little more gray. Mileage may vary based on your own use case.
You really need to go back and read on how and why Jobs did what he did for Apple/Mac.
It was a machine aimed at the common man.
I have T-Mobile One + One Plus International ($25 option) which gives me Unlimited LTE tethering. My son who is in the Navy uses this as his main internet connection going through 400GB+ a month in usage without any issues. So for a whopping extra $25 on top of his normal cellular line charge, it's completely doable. Yes I know other carriers charge through the nose for this (I love stopping and talking to the Verizon sharks when they try and lure me in. I open my t-mobile app and show them my monthly usage on each of my 4 lines and ask for a price and grin and walk away when they tell me it would be over $1000 per month), and that's why I don't support them. Plus in some cities, you can actually get point to point wireless (it's a small antenna you stick up in a window) for about the same you pay to a traditional internet.
So this is who at least 40% of America voted for. Did you know what you were going to get? I want to know. I really want to know how anyone thinks this is ok.
This comment by it's self is pretty embarrassing if you ask me. Go run one of the Linux distros that are too cool to have a GUI of any type if you want a truly "niche for the smart" crowd to hang around with.
You have never applied for credit cards? Or filled out a doctor office form online?
Maybe because we don't believe everything the MSM feeds us, and instead actually read what is going on and see the bigger picture? *shrugs* The whole the sky is falling story the MSM has been feeding about this is pure FUD. This wasn't even enacted yet, nothing changed from yesterday to today.
And put in this instead? We now have no privacy, we are going to have lots of pollution instead. Great job republicans.
I have t-mobile. I don't have issue with my ISP (yet). No reason to switch but good to know there's an option. Although that means having the phone on/active (so plugged in) a lot + questionable as to # of devices that can connect (we actually have many wifi enabled devices), etc... Not today's problem for me
