A new iMac design would be awesome!
Current design is fantastic, but new Apple design is ALWAYS welcome!
The current design is fantastic? Having to remove the glass panel and LCD in order to replace a hard drive that you can't replace with anything other than Apple OEM because they need to use an extra pin on the power connector to transmit heat sensor data because the whole thing is way too thin for how many hot components are in it? Fantastic you say? Keep on sippin' the kool-aid, bro.
Didn't the 17" MacBook Pro see a unibody design after the 13" and 15" models?
Edit - 13" and 15" unibody MacBook Pro's came out in October 2008, with the 17" trailing behind, coming out in January 2009
Could we experience a similar scenario in which smaller, redesigned models release first, then the larger model releases later?
The 17" MacBook Pro is dead. It's not coming back.
I think I'm gonna go and buy the current model. I really don't want a retina panelled iMac, would be such a waste of resources, especially for me. It really didn't wow me the retina MBP as long as its free from dead pixels, relatively bright and colourful a current iMac display is more than adequate.
Really, given how terrible the current design is, I'd wait for the next one, whether it has retina in tow or not; at least it has a shot at not being as terrible as this design has been.
I really hope the 13 rmbp has quad core and 4 gigs I ram. If it doesn't I don't know what to say.
Then prepare to be speechless because it ain't happening. An Ivy Bridge 13" rMBP will have the same CPU options as the current Ivy Bridge 13" cMBP. They can't magically will on a hotter CPU into a smaller space.
I really hope that if/when a 13-inch rMBP is released that it doesn't replace the current one. I just got mine!
If the rumors are to believed, it'll be alongside it for the current rev and when the next rev comes out the cMBPs will disappear leaving only the rMBPs to be just MBPs.
Of course it will, the rMBP 15" maxes out at 16 GB and they both need a powerful CPU/GPU combination to push out that many pixels. You have nothing to worry about.
No they really don't. The Intel HD 4000 alone can push out 1280x800 + 2(2560x1440), as well as 1680x1050 + 2(2560x1440). The fact of the matter is that it isn't an issue of not being able to push out that many pixels; the GPUs can push out that many pixels easily. It's clearly a software problem with OS X's HiDPI support (or lack thereof).
Finally! My Unibody 2008 is on its last legs.
Give it more RAM and replace its hard drive; also take better care of it; then it won't be "on its last legs". That's way too new of a computer to be on its last legs.
Been waiting for a retina 13" for ages. Hope it has a dedicated gpu though or it'll suck
No it won't, the Intel HD 4000 can easily push out that many pixels and have room left over for dessert. It's clearly a software issue.
I thought I read some reviews of the current 15" Retina MBP that indicated it *sometimes* seemed a bit laggy when closing, opening, or moving windows at full Retina resolution. That's with the discrete Nvidia GT650M GPU.
I wonder how a 13" variant would fare without a discrete GPU.
Just as poorly until Apple fixes the software issues surrounding HiDPI.
Noting says that a retina display would be twice the current resolution. The 27" iMac resolution approaches "retina" anyway once you take into account the greater viewing distance of desktop computers. It might be just 2x 1080p, or 3840x2080. Still a graphical power boost, but not quite as huge. Maybe they'll switch to a desktop GPU, delete the ODD, and use the space for bigger fans.
They will not switch to a desktop GPU as that requires that the computer be made thicker, and it's Apple we're talking about here. The optical drive won't make that much difference in that regard either; though removing it in favor of fans on the current design isn't a terrible idea; certainly no more terrible than sticking with the current design at all would be.
Good question. I have no idea.
I personally think they would use the same dual core CPU from the non-retina MBP 13 to keep a competitive price. But they will have to add a dedicated GPU, because the Intel HD Graphics 4000 is not powerful enough (I guess) to handle the retina display and its high resolution.
The hardware can handle it, it's the software that can't.
I seem to recall Intel bragging about the new Ivy Bridge (or third generation core-processors as Intel wants peoe to say) integrated graphics being able to handle anything up to 4K. Although I don't remember whether or not that only applied to the desktop versions or not.
It can drive 1280x800 (or 1440x900 or 1680x1050 for that matter) plus 2560x1440 x 2, I believe that adds up to 4K at the least, so yeah, the mobile versions can definitely do it.
Yep they did. If a 13" rMBP is made will they still keep the ordinary MBP? I guess they will since they sell the 15" cMBP but who knows?
According to Kuo rumors, the 15" and 13" cMBPs will be sold alongside their retina counter-parts this rev and then be discontinued when the rMBPs are updated next rev. It's sort of a get-it-while-you-still-can passing of the torch. Better than killing it cold.
The Ivy Bridge graphics of rMBP 13" won't be enough to deliver a smooth experience. Just look at the 15" rMBP when it's running on Intel Graphics, its choppy as heck. Now you, might be thinking that there is a difference in the number of pixels. Yes there is, but how different is 2880 by 1800 and 2560 by 1600?
Expect to get awful graphics out of rMBP 13", and this time you won't be able to switch to the discrete GPU!
The hardware just won't be strong enough, you have to wait for Haswell for a good Graphics performance.
No, the hardware is strong enough, it's the software that lacks. The 13" MacBook Pro can output double the 2560x1600 display as well as its own 1280x800 display, last I checked, that's way more pixels than 2880x1800. We don't need Haswell for performance that's already here in Ivy Bridge; we need Apple to get their **** together when it comes to HiDPI support in OS X.
I agree, a rMBP without a discrete GPU doesn't make sense on any level.
Really, any MBP without a discrete GPU doesn't make any sense on any level. But as far as technological concerns go, the Intel HD 4000 is plenty sufficient to drive that many pixels on its own; OS X just isn't up to snuff when doing it.
Remove the optical drive and you should have enough room for a discrete graphics card.
You forget that making the computer thinner cancels out any benefit gained by removing the optical drive.
My thoughts exactly. I was thinking my early-2011 13" MBP may need replacing by the time the Rev. 2 13" rMBP comes out with Haswell next year.
Right because two years is just way too old for a computer; you have to be on the absolute bleeding edge of technology otherwise your MacBook Pro from practically yesterday will be functionally obsolete. Get real.
