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The top of your post says all that needs to be said. Windows - the bloated, virus at tracking, daily reboot required, buggy operating system. No thank you. I would rather pay more for macs that last 4-6 years than this crap O/S and low quality hardware no matter what the specs.

I would rather a mac with these specs, no question, but we make do
 
Explain exactly why *you* need more than 16. Without bringing up Virtual Machines, which you have no business running on a mobile device.

Ok, thank you for telling the world they have no business deciding what to run on their laptops oh mighty arbiter of MacRumors. But no. No virtual machines.

I work in the Visual Effects industry for film and Television, as a concept artist and a 3D generalist. The data-sets we create and throw around can be pretty massive at times. Ram constraints mean slow performance at best (annoying and disruptive to an artist's workflow) and missed deadlines and angry clients at worst.
 
Might sound silly of me, but I really hope this Macbook Pro flops, it would be a great lesson for Apple.
That's the exact same thing people said about the iPhone 7 for taking away the headphone jack and now Samsung specs show that their new phone for 2017 won't have a headphone jack.

Keep living in the past.
 
I'm ready to upgrade!!!

This 15" MBP 2016 is definitely a beautiful introduction - touchbar, thunderbolt 3, wider color gamut, etc

BUT that price - sorry, no. That's a joke.
BUT that maxed out 16 GB RAM - why?
BUT the lack of power extension cord in the box - seriously? That's just insulting and money grabbing ... and I don't agree with the argument that if you've paid $2000+ on a laptop, then an extra $20, $40 or $100 for cords/dongles is insignificant. Apple used to be about offering the best "out of the box" user experience, now it's just offering a frustrating one.
BUT the newest iPhone can't simply connect to the newest flagship MBP - that's an appalling disconnect from Apple.
BUT that dubious keyboard - admittedly, I haven't tried it, but why mess with what *was* widely recognised as one of the best keyboards on a laptop? Oh yes, it's all about thinness.

There just seem to be so many missteps at Cupertino right now.

I had the money ready but I've decided to wait and reconsider a potential purchase next year (maybe after a price drop). In the meantime, I may experiment with/build a mac mini-like hackintosh. I love OSX (or macOS), I love the UI, I love the trackpad gesturing (I use an external magic trackpad) and I love the UNIX underbelly. I just don't love the current asking price for these new "Pro" appliances. Crazy making.
 
Ok, thank you for telling the world they have no business deciding what to run on their laptops oh mighty arbiter of MacRumors. But no. No virtual machines.

I work in the Visual Effects industry for film and Television, as a concept artist and a 3D generalist. The data-sets we create and throw around can be pretty massive at times. Ram constraints mean slow performance at best (annoying and disruptive to an artist's workflow) and missed deadlines and angry clients at worst.
Why are you doing that on a laptop (other than while traveling) in the first place? I'm just curious because you'd think if you've got deadlines to hit and angry client's you'd be using the appropriate tool for the job, no?
 
Only on the CPU front, and the OS of course..!
My ram is DDR4 as well

Oh spec wars are so much fun...let us continue...It doesn't show that that is an SLI setup, so 2x on the video... also, the dual SSDs, and also, my system has been blessed by the Pope and Steve Jobs, and Woz personally manhandled every component, inspecting them all for micro-fractures. Further, when I send emails it deposits $100 each into my banking account, simply because every server which touches it is so happy with my system specs they feel the need to donate.
 
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I still can't believe they removed so much of the important ports for the sake of making the computer thinner.

I'm sorry but this kind of statement just makes me furious. It is beyond ignorant. The new MBP has 4 ports which can do literally anything. It sets the standard for the future where a multitude of different limited I/O is a nightmare of the past. Who ****ing cares what kind of cable you need to use to accomplish it?

When you hang on things like "the cable" and ignore all the benefits that come with it...you're not even trying, or just outright trolling.
 
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Oh spec wars are so much fun...let us continue...It doesn't show that that is an SLI setup, so 2x on the video... also, the dual SSDs, and also, my system has been blessed by the Pope and Steve Jobs, and Woz personally manhandled every component, inspecting them all for micro-fractures. Further, when I send emails it deposits $100 each into my banking account, simply because every server which touches it is so happy with my system specs they feel the need to donate.

I loled! I really did with the pope's blessing & the donations!!
you WIN, I rest my case
 
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The delays are on Intel people. I have and will continue to say that Apple should be designing MacOS for ARM so they can control the chips and not having to be subservient to Intel.

As for 16gb of RAM, that's very limited in terms of effected users and I've read that it too is an Intel issue. Seems like a stop-gap in terms of processor as Intel flounders.

Okay, John Sculley... :rolleyes:
 
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Ok, thank you for telling the world they have no business deciding what to run on their laptops oh mighty arbiter of MacRumors. But no. No virtual machines.

I work in the Visual Effects industry for film and Television, as a concept artist and a 3D generalist. The data-sets we create and throw around can be pretty massive at times. Ram constraints mean slow performance at best (annoying and disruptive to an artist's workflow) and missed deadlines and angry clients at worst.

If 16 GB of RAM is hurting your productivity, you're doing something wrong. It's not even debatable.
 
The problem is that these so-called pros just can't get on with the times. It's time to incorporate more advanced workflows and tech instead of still relying on Firewire 400 drives.
 
I'm sorry but this kind of statement just makes me furious. It is beyond ignorant. The new MBP has 4 ports which can do literally anything. It sets the standard for the future where a multitude of different limited I/O is a nightmare of the past. Who ****ing cares what kind of cable you need to use to accomplish it?

When you hang on things like "the cable" and ignore all the benefits that come with it...you're not even trying, or just outright trolling.
Well said... but we will be in the minority here because the influx of newbie posts just keeps growing. Lol
 
Completely agree. Tim doesnt seem to care about the mac. They need to update the Mac Mini, the iMac, and the Mac Pro. They need to lower the price of the touchbar macbook pro to $1299, and remove the one without the touchbar. Give the new macbook pro a spec boost. We need quad core cpus, 32 GB of RAM, and no more ****** Intel Iris graphics. Add the SD Card slot back.

Vote Internet Enzyme 2016
 
MagSafe is amazing, I agree. But all other things equal, you are looking at dedicated a slot to either MagSafe or another USB C port. When I am not charging my laptop, it's not like I can retroactively turn that MagSafe charging port into a USB or display port. I am stuck with MagSafe whether I need it or not. USB C is more versatile and given a choice, I would be willing to give up MagSafe for USB C.

I doubt many users will ever use the Macbook Pro on battery with 4 devices attached to it, probably even 1 device is unusual when on battery.

The most common usage scenario is either using it on battery without any or just 1 device attached to it, or using it with attached power adapter and 3+ devices attached to it (2 monitors, external keyboard, backup disk, etc.). In that scenario, professional users will most likely have another display and/or an USB Hub, etc. attached to it too. So > 3 ports on the Macbook Pro itself is less important here.

I don't see how just three USB-C ports with one MagSafe port would have any disadvantage to > 99% of the usage of the MacBook pro.

In addition, I would have expected from an innovative company like Apple to solve that problem by providing a hybrid mag-safe/USB-C port. In any case, just dropping a really innovative, differentiating and by most users well received feature is just plain stupid.

I will definitely not update my Macbook Pro this update cycle.
 
Apple have made a big point in the past of emphasing that the Mac sales continued to grow while the rest of the PC industry sales were declining, so they have managed to avoid that trend in the past.


Which why it's such a misleading stat. There are many individual manufacturers and/or brands that avoided the industry trend.

Apple like to phrase it to suggest every other company is in sales decline, and they're in sales growth. It's intentionally misleading. The sales decline is multi-faceted, but a big slice is due to budget laptops with traditional light use being tablet/phone replaceable - it's a game that Apple/Microsoft and the premium Dell/Razer etc brands aren't in.
 
It would be an *option*... not forced upon people. Just make people aware... and let the customer decide.

Apple shouldn't play nanny.

This actually has a good reason. Apparently the intel chipsets only support 16G low energy ram, the few laptops that do offer more have serious hits to battery performance. Supposedly in 2018 Intel will be releasing a chipset that will support 32 low energy ram. :(
[doublepost=1478099419][/doublepost]Don't you understand it is better
Performance and more efficient that memory not page?

Have you looked at the SSD transfer rates of even the lowest end 2016 MBP? Significantly faster than last years, and commensurate with RAM rates used in the laptop.
 
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