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HAH, now that's funny, even if I'm a right leaning. :p You get a thumbs up.

What I'm trying to imply is that a very large majority of the userbase is anti-Trump. I'm not saying my opinions on the subject or whatever, I'm just saying that when virtually every thread in PRSI is a thread that either makes fun or complains about the opposing political group, meaning right-leaning users on the forum and people in general, there's no meaningful discussion, it's just a worthless, pretentious echo chamber.

This I agree with. And speaking from personal PRSI posting experience, anyone who is right wing tends to get attacked heavily and there are a LOT of anti-trump threads, so much so it sickens even me.

There are several pro-Trump threads in the active section right now. And several where conservative-leaning comments are all being upvoted.

I stopped frequenting PRSI but I do know that the number of anti-trump threads there is astounding. And yes, there are a few recent pro-trump threads, heavily populated by the anti-trumpers. I'm not surprised about the upvotes, if the actual presidential vote count is any indication, there should be a 50/50 leaning. But the tech world does lean one way more than the other.

I've just been trying to avoid PRSI because I can't enjoy my time there on that part of Macrumors. The few times I did get involved, suspensions, etc... abounded even though we made up afterwards. So, cuz I'd rather Macrumors actually make $ and the mods not waste their time on me, I'll do my best to stay away. :p
 
No problem with staying away; there are lot of threads in PRSI that I avoid (and "Trump did X" threads are usually the ones that I don't care for, not because I disagree with them, but because they're boring and don't foster any kind of interesting discussion). But ensuring a 50/50 political balance is not realistic and shouldn't be a condition for keeping PRSI around. Every political discussion forum I've ever been on leaned one way or the other. There's one site I know that leans right and any left-leaning comments will be heavily down-voted (yes, that site has downvotes--glad we don't have that here).
 
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No problem with staying away; there are lot of threads in PRSI that I avoid (and "Trump did X" threads are usually the ones that I don't care for, not because I disagree with them, but because they're boring and don't foster any kind of interesting discussion). But ensuring a 50/50 political balance is not realistic and shouldn't be a condition for keeping PRSI around. Every political discussion forum I've ever been on leaned one way or the other. There's one site I know that leans right and any left-leaning comments will be heavily down-voted (yes, that site has downvotes--glad we don't have that here).

As much as I use thumbs up, I'm kinda against the idea of thumbs up. I think things would be better without it. What do you think?
 
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Many people use a thumbs-up or thumbs-down as an alternative to contributing to the discussion, so I wouldn't mind if they disappeared. I also think sometimes people make "clever" comments (especially in the Apple sections) for the sole purpose of getting a lot of thumbs (I admit to having done that before--though they deleted my comment!) That could be eliminated too.
 
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Many people use a thumbs-up or thumbs-down as an alternative to contributing to the discussion, so I wouldn't mind if they disappeared. I also think sometimes people make "clever" comments (especially in the Apple sections) for the sole purpose of getting a lot of thumbs (I admit to having done that before--though they deleted my comment!) That could be eliminated too.
There's nothing wrong with a "funny/clever" comment, that's on topic(at least imo). The thumbs up as an alternative to not contributing, saves a poster from repeating something that another poster already posted prior to your post. My .02.
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Hah this place used to have thumbs down? Interesting!
Yeah, the thumbs down was removed, I remember some posts about it. I think many of the posts in PRSI deserve thumbs down.
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HAH, now that's funny, even if I'm a right leaning. :p You get a thumbs up.



This I agree with. And speaking from personal PRSI posting experience, anyone who is right wing tends to get attacked heavily and there are a LOT of anti-trump threads, so much so it sickens even me.



I stopped frequenting PRSI but I do know that the number of anti-trump threads there is astounding. And yes, there are a few recent pro-trump threads, heavily populated by the anti-trumpers. I'm not surprised about the upvotes, if the actual presidential vote count is any indication, there should be a 50/50 leaning. But the tech world does lean one way more than the other.

I've just been trying to avoid PRSI because I can't enjoy my time there on that part of Macrumors. The few times I did get involved, suspensions, etc... abounded even though we made up afterwards. So, cuz I'd rather Macrumors actually make $ and the mods not waste their time on me, I'll do my best to stay away. :p
One can easily, in the heat of moment, get drawn into the "drama" in PRSI and from that cross one or more lines, unless one is level headed.

You have to know when to hold and when to fold in PRSI. A lot of the comments border on ad-homs and trolling(for the sake of making some type of brownie point), in my humble opinion. And additionally, the definition of on-topic is rather loose in many of the threads. (again, IMO)
 
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The moderators only moderate on the basis of the rules. We do not have the same political leanings, and we're fine with any opinion as long as it's stated within the rules. The rules are in place for one reason only: to keep discussions civil.
if that were true there would be many more people in PRSI kicked out than there are now.

I don’t mean to be harsh but the current rules and the way they are applied are completely insane.
 
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PRSI could be canned tomorrow and few would notice.

It was engaging in its old days, but it's more shout than debate now. Waste of time.

The appeal of PRSI may vary over time depending on who newer posting members are and what they tend to offer or provoke... and on what's going on in the world. Trump has taken a lot of oxygen out of the planet's media spaces, it would seem. That won't last forever. Hanging out in PRSI does not make his time in office go any faster though, or at least so I have noticed.
 
The appeal of PRSI may vary over time depending on who newer posting members are and what they tend to offer or provoke... and on what's going on in the world. Trump has taken a lot of oxygen out of the planet's media spaces, it would seem. That won't last forever. Hanging out in PRSI does not make his time in office go any faster though, or at least so I have noticed.
The problem with PRSI now is that it turned into animal house and the inmates have taken over.
 
What I'm trying to imply is that a very large majority of the userbase is anti-Trump. I'm not saying my opinions on the subject or whatever, I'm just saying that when virtually every thread in PRSI is a thread that either makes fun or complains about the opposing political group, meaning right-leaning users on the forum and people in general, there's no meaningful discussion, it's just a worthless, pretentious echo chamber.

Well heck a lot of the world is anti-Trump... so... anyway in PRSI a lot of pro-Trump threads are started by people who lean right. If that's supposed to offset the alleged overhang in numbers of left-leaning people, it's not an effective way to go about that. Need to bring more righties in. Ones who can debate instead of getting banned for losing cool over attacks on the content of cut-and-paste posts, for instance. There are some good debaters on the right in PRSI. And there are some serious cut-and-paste trolls. It's pretty simple. Don't lose cool, don't get banned.
 
Well heck a lot of the world is anti-Trump... so... anyway in PRSI a lot of pro-Trump threads are started by people who lean right. If that's supposed to offset the alleged overhang in numbers of left-leaning people, it's not an effective way to go about that. Need to bring more righties in. Ones who can debate instead of getting banned for losing cool over attacks on the content of cut-and-paste posts, for instance. There are some good debaters on the right in PRSI. And there are some serious cut-and-paste trolls. It's pretty simple. Don't lose cool, don't get banned.
There are a lot of trolls who should have been banned from there years ago but for some reason they continue to get a free pass.
 
There are a lot of trolls who should have been banned from there years ago but for some reason they continue to get a free pass.

We should capture some and offer the mods an exchange: they get their favorite trolls back when we get back certain people who bit down on a troll and then got disappeared outta PRSI. :D I'm still lookin' for whoever got into it with leekohler to where he forgot himself and that was years ago.
 
We should capture some and offer the mods an exchange: they get their favorite trolls back when we get back certain people who bit down on a troll and then got disappeared outta PRSI. :D I'm still lookin' for whoever got into it with leekohler to where he forgot himself and that was years ago.
We would need one of those ecto plasma thingys from Ghost Busters to be able to contain them.
 
We should capture some and offer the mods an exchange: they get their favorite trolls back when we get back certain people who bit down on a troll and then got disappeared outta PRSI. :D I'm still lookin' for whoever got into it with leekohler to where he forgot himself and that was years ago.

Yes, agreed.

I am still vey sorry that both @leekohler and @Renzatic are no longer with us as they both added a lot to the forums.
 
I miss thumbs down

Well in real life there's still always the ballot box... although even there I prefer to scout around for something to award an upvote. Sometimes that does take monumental effort :rolleyes: and in that respect real life can feel like PRSI even to wondering whether it's worth it.

I used to like the downvote too but have come to think of it as a cheap shot. It's probably easier to stick a downvote than an upvote: we live in dismissive times and for all our seeming negativity even in real life, a lot of that comes with an almost equivalent discount for it being so common.

Say something negative about a sports team and you're generally allowed your skepticism --fans may consider it an honest appraisal even while discounting it, fans of some other team shrug because who cares-- but say something positive and someone else invariably takes that as an actual threat to their own and different fantasy of a season's finish. So in some ways having only the upvote may tend to provoke more debate, which may be useful so long as trolling doesn't ensue.

Anyway I'm old enough to realize nostalgia involves a selective memory of the past. I'd rather engage in selective daydreams about the future. Either timeframe is out of our hands at the moment, but the past is the past even if our perspective on it may change in future. Meanwhile whatever we make out of today can have leverage on that future, as long as we don't trip over something ahead while staring back at something lost along the wayside.

Bottom line I'm not sure mourning over the lost thumbs down is the biggest concern here while some forum members seem to figure that PRSI itself should go the way of the downvote. Heck, every time I consider an iPhone upgrade I can end up thinking those are the forum sections that could be ditched without even a funeral.
 
Well in real life there's still always the ballot box... although even there I prefer to scout around for something to award an upvote. Sometimes that does take monumental effort :rolleyes: and in that respect real life can feel like PRSI even to wondering whether it's worth it.
I didn’t want to pretend to be an adult today...
 
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It’s quite clear that moderators are super liberal here at MacRumors. It’s sad to see they moderate based on their own beliefs, rather than the rules of the forum. I’ve lost ALL respect for moderators here, and maybe a few letters sent to MacRumors, LLC registered agent address will get them realize they either let PSRI be a free for all, or abolish it all together.
 
Can you elaborate on how I’m wrong?
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Well heck a lot of the world is anti-Trump... so... anyway in PRSI a lot of pro-Trump threads are started by people who lean right. If that's supposed to offset the alleged overhang in numbers of left-leaning people, it's not an effective way to go about that. Need to bring more righties in. Ones who can debate instead of getting banned for losing cool over attacks on the content of cut-and-paste posts, for instance. There are some good debaters on the right in PRSI. And there are some serious cut-and-paste trolls. It's pretty simple. Don't lose cool, don't get banned.
I understand this post is about me. I appreciate you taking such a liking to me that you wish to talk about me.

I will reiterate that the moderation team here is very liberal, and that it saddens me how a great Apple news site can have such power abuseove moderators.
 
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Can you elaborate on how I’m wrong?
As has been stated over the years, ad nauseam, users are only ever suspended/banned after an accumulation of rules violations which shows a pattern of disregard for them and their fellow forum goers.

The content of a post that is moderated usually isn't the problem, but rather the context in how that content is presented can be in violation of the rules. Whatever it was that led to your suspension wasn't based on a one-liner, but very likely was a pattern of trolling perhaps and that one was the straw that broke the camels back, per se.

You've probably accrued enough rules violations that they put you in temporary suspension. With each new violation you will be put into longer suspensions until such a time that the staff has had enough of it and then you will get banned for good. Users of the forum agree to abide by the rules when they register and when they don't, they have consequences. Their forum, their rules.

No one on staff here allows their personal beliefs to color their moderator responsibility. I know this from first-hand experience being a former staffer here. The staff is comprised of people whose political opinions fall across the entire spectrum from left to right to in the middle and are from all parts of the globe - not just the United States.

They have a set of rules and guidelines they have to follow as staff and their oversight comes from the administrators and the site owner. There are checks and balances here and sometimes they make mistakes and moderation is reviewed and when appropriate, reversed.

If you ever want to dispute something, send them a contact message (as outlined in the reminder you receive) and the admins will review it.

As usual, members who get into trouble lash out blaming everyone else and the staff and rarely take ownership or responsibility for their actions.
 
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